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Will the members on board pertaining to Christianity and Islam admit that their religions are foreign reinterpretations of Ancient African texts?

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“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel

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I don't know what you mean bl. but like confucious said many years before Christ came that we should do unto others as we would have others do unto us. I don;t think Christ ever said that this was His exclusive saying.

There were righteous and wise men all down through the history of the world bl. remember what was said to have happened in the garden. they partook of the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil. The knowldge of Good has been here from the beginning. Jesus simply emphasized what was true and right. it was never said to be exclusive. if that were the case then God would have created us without the knowledge of good.

There is uniqueness in christianity for certain.

but do not murder should have been good in all nations, all religons, all soceties, to all men.


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the Ethiopean Orthodox Church is a Christian Church which acknowledges the history of Christianity in Africa.
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as far as i know the coptic church is on line with the truth.


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as far as i know the coptic church is on line with the truth.
yes the Coptic Church is the Egyptian equivalent as the Ethiopian Orthodox Church which now have a few Churches in London & major cities all over England, as well as some West Indian Islands.
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I don't know what you mean bl. but like confucious said many years before Christ came that we should do unto others as we would have others do unto us. I don;t think Christ ever said that this was His exclusive saying.
You are exactly right. Truth is universal. It is the same in Africa as it is anywhere else. There is Only One GOD. He is the same in Africa as he is anywhere else. Therfore, ancient texts in Africa which contain Truth and the Comnads of GOD will have exactly what is contained in Qur'an. Keep in mind that Qur'an came top humaity in Arabia which is a peninsula, an unbroken landmass, of Africa. therefore there is and has never been a discontinity or disunity between Arabia and Africa. All wil agree that all of the prophets were in either the African contient and/or the Arabian Pensisula. Only ignorant people wil talk in terms of any of the Three Great Religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, not be indigenously African. Indeed, Africa is the source of all three religions.

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There were righteous and wise men all down through the history of the world bl. remember what was said to have happened in the garden. they partook of the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil. The knowldge of Good has been here from the beginning. Jesus simply emphasized what was true and right. it was never said to be exclusive. if that were the case then God would have created us without the knowledge of good.

There is uniqueness in christianity for certain.

but do not murder should have been good in all nations, all religons, all soceties, to all men.
I often quotye htese verses to prove that the Bible is African: Genesis 2:8-16:

8: And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9: And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10: And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11: The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12: And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13: And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14: And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
15: And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16: And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

Clearly this proves that all three religions orginate in Africa. In fact, this proves that mankind orginates in Africa. More presisely, it proves that mankind orginates in East Africa including Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia and Sudan at least all the way down to Zimbabwe and eastward ro Madagascar and northward to include the entire Arabian Peninsula up to thje Tigris-Euphrates River between Irag on one side and Turkey and Iran on the other.

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But would you both say that the three main religions have their roots in an older African culture, Ie; Kush which also stems from Ethiopia...?

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I don't know the roots of African culture are that you are specfically talking about BL. I have told you before that God has made his will known to all men at diverse times in diverse places.

when hell is enlarged no one will have an excuse.


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But would you both say that the three main religions have their roots in an older African culture, Ie; Kush which also stems from Ethiopia...?

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Yeah. I think I can agree with that statement. But, I am not so sure about where you are headed with it.

I would go even further than simply acknowledging that religion originates in the Garden of Eden which is defined not just as Ethiopia; but, as all of Arabia and at least half of Africa, east of the Nile to the source of the Nile, eastward to Madagasy, northward to the Tigris-Euphrates River. That is a lot more than just Ethiopia. However, science proves that mankind orgiginates in the vacinity of present-day Ethiopia.

So, mankind itself originates in Africa, East Africa specifically. Believers know that mankind was a religious being from day one. Thus, the Book of Genesis states in verse 1, chapter 1:

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (The Book of Genesis)

If we begin there and follow through, we find that Abraham (Peace and Blessings be upon him) founds a religion based on a belief and worship of the Creator Supreme, Most Merciful, Most Gracious. It is this religion that Islam traces its origins to. Christianity and Judaism also claim origins in Abraham.

Abraham is closely associated with Africa as are all of the prophets (Peace and Blessings be upon all of the prophets). I am not an expert on all of the ancient texts. So, I awill not attempt to argue about them. But, the Bible and Qur'an are sufficient to prove the African origins of religion, especially Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
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I don't see where anyone can argue that judeo-christian beliefs began in and incubated around africa. who argues differently the vikings or some one. what is it valhallah?

but we africans are going on a limb to say that all good is african and all else is conterfeit. If you believe that God created the universe then all humans are in the fold. sin and evil are not of God but a conscious choice of humans.


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I don't see where anyone can argue that judeo-christian beliefs began in and incubated around africa. who argues differently the vikings or some one. what is it valhallah?

but we africans are going on a limb to say that all good is african and all else is conterfeit. If you believe that God created the universe then all humans are in the fold. sin and evil are not of God but a conscious choice of humans.
Your point is well taken, Meknow. But, there are evil forces afoot in the world. Remember how Satan whispered to Eve? What is the origin of such evil? How is it manisfested in the world?

Polytheism is certainly one source. Hinduism is the main polytheistic religion in the world. I am convinced that the racism he see in Hinduism's untouchability is at the root of much, if not all, of the racism in the world today. It migrates through Central Asia into Europe. What many of us do not seem to appreciate is that it migrates across the sea to Africa causing tribalism, cannabalism, the slave trade and general dis-unity and chaos. We need to understand this. When we do understand this, we will be armed with a philosophy and ideology to resist this kind of evil and obey the Unity and Oneness and Purity of GOD, Most Merciful, Most Gracious.
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You have a rigged asssumption, oops I mean 'question' there bredder. there really is no question at all bl. and as the boyz in the hood say, "I ain't mad at ya."

not that it matters at all even if it is true. God does not hide the truth or give it only to one nation. Even though the bible says that israel was chosen they did not have the truth alone. the truth is in man but traditions, culture, customs and carnal desires will push or pull man far from it.

grabbing hold of the truth is what