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Default 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer - 10-04-08, 06:47 PM

The first question is Why Won't God Heal Amputees?

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Oh we must answer hmmmmm.

Well that one got me.

But I have to give you credit for the use of the word won't....very intelligent of you shemsi....

since i am not an intelligent christian...i want to add a question to the 10.

11. why didn't God stop the Aromic bomb dropped on Hiroshima?

12. why did he allow 60,000 to die in the civil war?

13. why does he allow the AIDS virus to spread among men?

14. why is He allowing the horrific prophesies of the bible to come true?



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Oh we must answer hmmmmm.

Well that one got me.

But I have to give you credit for the use of the word won't....very intelligent of you shemsi....

since i am not an intelligent christian...i want to add a question to the 10.

11. why didn't God stop the Aromic bomb dropped on Hiroshima?

12. why did he allow 60,000 to die in the civil war?

13. why does he allow the AIDS virus to spread among men?

14. why is He allowing the horrific prophesies of the bible to come true?


We don't need any more questions to confound the topic. Just answer the questions. Here they are spelled out for you:
  1. Why Won't God Heal Amputees?
  2. Why Are There So Many Starving People In The World?
  3. Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the Bible?
  4. Why does the Bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?
  5. Why is God such a huge proponent for slavery in the Bible?
  6. Why do bad things happen to good people?
  7. Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the Bible leave behind any evidence?
  8. How do you explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?
  9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his body?
  10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?



We get confounded trying to get back to Africa. On my first trip to Africa, they asked, "Where's your passport?" I said "I have no passport...I was taken away 500 years ago; and now I'm back."


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Shemshi these are actually some good questions. Questions that I would expect non believers to ask?

Why Won't God Heal Amputees? He won't?

Why Are There So Many Starving People In The World? A really broad question here but are you shurking personal responsibility of the leaders of these people.
Does Jehovah God have any say so in North Korea, remote areas of China, Africa, Mexico, Haiti...ect

Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the Bible? Back in the old testament judgement was almost immediate, when Jesus died Grace became a part of the fabric of humanity...

Why does the Bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense? Where?

Why is God such a huge proponent for slavery in the Bible? Where?

Why do bad things happen to good people? What are bad things?

Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the Bible leave behind any evidence? Which ones do you suppose should have? walking on the water, raising of the dead, calming the storm, feeding the mujltitude, water into wine...which ones?

How do you explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you? Oh He has.

Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his body? The eating of His body and drinking of His blood was symbolic. How can we eat His body and drink His blood when He is alive?

Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians? I believe the rate for Christians is a bit above non christans. i suppose that they are not prepared for the things that life throws at them. I did a counseling just last weekend for a couple who I will marry soon. Gave them lots of the challenges of staying married.

If you are not married to that beautiful young woman in your posts, may I offer you counsel, free of charge...in fact what I have read on Dr. James' site is good stuff for staying married.

I know that I asked as many questions as you did shemsi and you will chide me for that. but you are forgetting about the human element in all of the above. God can do every thing you asked about. He is only obligated to do what he has put in the book.

if you could see in the spiritual realm shemsi you would be very surprised at what God keeps from happening to mankind. Do you really think that money keeps you safe in gated communities, armies, nukes, living in America, being a strong, rich and healthy person...?

naaaaa.......it is the grace of God alone...



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Don't those questions assume that God behaves the way Western Christians say He behaves?

Doesn't that mean the atheists can't think outside the Christian box?

Suppose the system works on reincarnation. That means God does heal amputees.

Reincarnation would mean that everybody gets a new body periodically.

You didn't figure it out. Go back. Do it again.


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good job um, but me know that shemsi will not listen to what the bible says.

would not do me being a christian any good to tell him that we will be given a body that will not be subject to the penalty of sin (death). no more sickness, disease, pain, sadness, fear....

and um as you say are we christian allowed to think outside of the atheist's box? you guys have it all figured out um. we are just coming behind you.

i am not so impressed with your theory of reincarnation um. you may become an amputee at a later date. God tells us that there will be one and it will be perminent. i like that bredder,



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i am not so impressed with your theory of reincarnation um.
I don't have a theory dude, and I am not trying to impress you. I am just pointing out that people are all just selecting from pre-existing ideas. We just happen to be in a Western Christian culture where we get bombarded with those ideas the most but that does not necessarily mean they are correct.

It is curious though that there are Jews and Druze that believe in reincarnation and the word HELL is not in the Bible even though we hear it a lot.


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don't take it personal um. i am just chatting as you are opining sir. i have no problem listening to your point of view even though they may be anti my belief. and even though you may nor admit it you are preaching to me. We all do it.

I am sorry, but i don't live in western society, i live on earth. yes my locale is the west but don't pencil me in as anything, you may be surprised if you could see the truth. yes I am a christian, firmly rooted and grounded in the Truth of the Word of God. That may be offensive to many but that is not my problem. I am not walking around condemning anyone. Certainly the bible does give some harsh consequences, but if you are atheist or of some other concern what does it matter you would think. I am not concerned about what the god of railroad cross tires will do to me.

would i like to see that practioner of said religion brought into the 'marvelous light' most assuridly. i am obligated to share with him or her if the possibility presents itself and not necessarily in a condemning spirit.

Like God I would love to see all men saved, but down through time men have made other choices and will unfortunately continue to do so.

i am curious myself um about the word hell not being in the bible.

ummmm...try around 54 times. 31 old testament and 23 in the new.

check out Revelation 20:13 & 14. did you know that hell is not the unbelievers final destination? it is a lake....



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[*]Why Won't God Heal Amputees?[*]Why Are There So Many Starving People In The World?[*]Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the Bible?[*]Why does the Bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?[*]Why is God such a huge proponent for slavery in the Bible?[*]Why do bad things happen to good people?[*]Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the Bible leave behind any evidence?[*]How do you explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?[*]Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his body?[*]Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?]
Just humour me and see me as God. *lol* Here's what I'd say.


1. What's the point of healing someone if they're going to sin again, it would be counter-productive. healing people who haven't cast out the evil from within themselves. They'll end up thinking they're good and deserving when they're not.

2. The Prince of the Earth rules this World. The Father Jesus spoke of rules heaven.

3. That is the Lord God not God the Father. Read Genesis chapter one to read about his creation. From Chapter 2.4 onwards it's the Lord God's creation.

"And God spoke all these words, saying: 'I am the LORD your God…

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.' Unfortunately for him, God the Father is before him. Most worship the LORD God, the one that flooded the Earth because his creation wasn't very Good like God the father's creation in Chapter one of Genesis.. The liar and murderer from the beginning which Jesus spoke of . Called him the Devil if I remember correctly. It's actually just the soul in a man. Making an internal evil into an external evil is the ultimate deception. Stops people from blaming themselves for their own actions. Thus the people don't learn, thus history repeats itselt, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

4. Because it was written by men, who generally write nonsesne.

5. LORD God. He rules this Earth, via working within all of us.

6. If people we're Good we wouldn't be in the LORD God's creation in the first place. The heart of man is evil from it's youth and is wicked and deceitful beyond all measure. That too is the LORD God's creation. He breathed a soul into Adam. A soul that is evil continously. As in Adam all die.

Matthew 19:17, "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God:" This was to say that he too was here in a physical body with a soul(Devil) that tempted him, many times and in many ways, causing him great pain and suffering.

7. Parables. Don't take them literally. Why do you think the New Testament texts were hidden in jars in caves to begin with?

8. They've yet to overcome. Do that then he appears to take you to his Father's land. In spirit at the natural consclusion of your lifetime. That's the second coming, and that's how you avoid the second death. It's in Spirit. The second death is another incarnation right back here. The time that takes varies.

9. Parable again. Taken way too literally.

10. Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Christians and in fact all people get married and divorced on Earth. Doesn't mean anything.


If it wasn't for Christians all that I wrote above would be understood by all, all of which is written in black and white in the book they claim to understand. Worse of all Atheists argue from exactly the same faulty viewpoint that Christians do. i.e From the Christian understanding of the book. If they have none what exactly is the point of trying to counter-act that viewpoint using a viewpoint that is lacking in understanding in the first place? You'll just end up with questions like these which are answered ironically in the Bible.



Know the evils of soul: THAT is understanding.

Depart from the soul's evil: THAT is wisdom.


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Don't those questions assume that God behaves the way Western Christians say He behaves?

Doesn't that mean the atheists can't think outside the Christian box?

Suppose the system works on reincarnation. That means God does heal amputees.

Reincarnation would mean that everybody gets a new body periodically.

You didn't figure it out. Go back. Do it again.


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The questions were posed to "Intelligent Christians". It wasn't meant to be taken outside of the Christian box. I'm sure equally poignant questions could be manifest to rebut Islam, Hebrewism, and Hinduism as well.



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Theres obviously no God for amputees... they're discarded because they cannot perform simple tasks like juggling and benchpressing.... either that or with the left brainedness of the population nowadays people have taken ancient texts all too seriously. Anyone reading parables attempting to rationalize them as some do needs salvation.

All the ancient texts are astrological as well as numerological.




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The questions were posed to "Intelligent Christians". It wasn't meant to be taken outside of the Christian box.
But the answer is always God is imaginary so obvioulsy everyone is supposed to think inside the atheist box.

So if the atheists are so RATIONAL they should PROVE there is no God.

They exclude the possibility that there is a God that ain't Christian and doesn't run things the way the Christians say. It could be that all known religions are mostly wrong. So they have not PROVEN that God is imaginary.


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