Dada I am curious about this statement>>>It was believed that to become Christian may not make you closer to GOD but certainly closer to the White Man.<<<

Can you tell me how me being a Christian has made me closer to the white man?

I do not see where the white man or even the jew is favored according to the bible.

for those who think jews are favored look around the world and listen to opinion about them....they are most hated....they have no peace....they are situated in the midst of their enemies...if that is favor count me out...


does the bible favor white men...?

1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1 Tim 2:1-6 (KJV)

Here you go with the typical "its not the religion, its the people" argument when the very religion requires a maladapted and dysfunctional psychology for a person or a people. This only demonstrates the psychological complex that lacks accountability in Christianity. You already think you can murder everyone in the world and still go to heaven because your god will forgive only you for believing in him. That same dysfunctional unaccountability makes it easy for you to say it isn't the religion, its the people misusing it. Hmmm...how about Christians develop some integrity.

I am speaking about Africans who came into contact with Europeans, prior to and not long after signing over their lands to White Europeans. Then, using Nigeria as an example, once within the "Protectorate"\Colony many of the Younger Generations looked at becoming a Christain as a way of obtaining Modern Education and positions (i.e Clerk, School teachers, Soldiers, Police) within the dominated countries.

Where as the predominately Muslim nations\tribes such as the Falani or Hausa were side stepped in modern education as they were not prepared to learn through Missionary schools. This gave an imbalance of adminstrators from these nations within the "Protectorate\Colony - while the British worked better with the Muslim nations than the traditional African one's in terms of developing the Area of Adminstration it found itself having to use "Foreign" local nations (i.e Igbo or Yoruba) adminster traditional Hauas areas which in turn lead to conflicts.

In the words of Dr. Yosef ben-Yochannan, a scholar and nonpracticing Ethiopian Jew, correctly described religion as the deification of culture. If you are deifying any culture, why isn't it your own? Since you are deifying European culture, then it is obvious why you are closer to European men.

"Thus says the LORD,"The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush And the Sabeans, men of stature,Will come over to you and will be yours; They will walk behind you, they will come over in chains And will bow down to you;They will make supplication to you:'Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God" ~Isaiah 45:14

First I do not Hate White People or any other Race.

I am mindful of the overt influnce Western Culture has had at the deteriment of African Culture. This is what I contest and wish Africans would be prouder of their own Traditions and Culture and not ashamed of it. Think Chinese, Thai or Japanese.

Second. I am someone who has served in the Military and in a War Zone I am not advocating any War or such like.

I never said that you hated whites. i said that many of us say that our culture is this or that and he whites and others are that. A simple study of history will show that all races have been on top at one time or another. and all have done some things unworthy or humanity.

most certainly the progenators of slavery 500 years ago did harm to the African culture and continent. The keepers of slavery in America in particular did their best to dehumanize us. the only thing lower than the slavery inflicted upon us here in America was death and many opted for it,

that is fact. I know my history. i know my enemy (and he does not just have white skin only).

I am a black man who has retired, a christian, who sees first hand the devastation that has resulted from the dehumanizing slavery placed upon us. I have looked into the eyes of those who suffered the cruelties of southern style slavery. my mother would tell me of the things her grandmother told her from her grandmother. i know.

i have a decision to make. do i tell the boy incarcerated that he needs ma'at and to read these books that will teach you about how badly the whites treated your ancestors. or do i need to get him prepared to get a job and turn from the spirial of prison. what do i tell these tormented minds that in some cases are open to being helped. others are so far gone with the, "the man..." philosophy that he can not be easily reached to keep from destroying himself and in the process destroying young women with babies and drugs and those young babies being tossed into the cycle of povety and OPPRESSION.

I would ask that there be a collective effort of the blacks to try and reach down to the lowest level and try to free the future but the most vocal of us are busy telling me that i am an uncle tom and brain washed. the young men that i will speak to Saturday night in prison need to know how to come out and begin to take responsibility and deal with this society. an infusion of hatred will only end him up back in the joint or worse.

what would you suggest i tell these young men...

I appreciate you addressing the topic....

Without knowing them it would be hard to suggest what to say. We can all bring out the violins at some part of our lives, bottom line is that we are responsible for our own actions. What we do and what we say.

Sorry if that sounds harsh. Life is unfair.

breadfruit:

I would like serious dialogue with you on the last post. I am an christian who has practiced it for 21 years with understanding.

I would like for you to show or tell me how christianity has harmed me in any form or fashion.

i was given the book and told to study it. there certainly is a marked difference between christianity and african religions to be sure. i would that you know that christianity is not a religion but a life style.

there is nothing in christianity that does not allow me to express my culture unless it runs against the tenents of the bible; thou shalt not murder, thou shalt not steal, not to sleep with any other man's wife, not to have sex with near kin and so forth.

this is true in every culture. even europeans have to do away with some practices that their culture supported.

I live in America which is supposed to be a democratic nation...there are men who are in high positions who take advantage of the people who beleive in democracy. the same is true of christianity. when i teach children i explain to them that a gun is not bad, drugs are not bad, a bomb is not bad or evil, an IED is not bad...all to show them that objects, teachings and the like are simply what they are, it is men's use of them that makes things bad.