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Dr James Versus Fine 1952 -
05-06-08, 11:22 PM
Fine 1952 said “Genesis God says that if Adam eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then the day that he does so, he will die. But later Adam eats the forbidden fruit (3:6) and yet lives for another 930 years (5:5). 2:17”
Dr. James said. “Is Adam alive today? God did not tell him exactly what time he is going to die. Does it matter what time he died as long as he died?”
Fine 1952 said “How long was the Egyptian captivity? This verse says 400 years, but Ex.12:40 and Gal.3:17 say 430 years. 15:13”
Dr James said. Fine did not read any of this for himself or her self, he she copied it some place off the net. From the time, God gave the command that Israel must be free. It was 400 years. By the time the king of Egypt decided to comply and Israel finally left Egypt it was another thirty years, make it up to 430. When Abraham Lincoln said the Negroes must be free, the Negroes were free that same day on the book, but did not obtain their freedom until seven years later. The slave master came up with a plan that the slaves must serve and apprentice program for seven more years.
Fine 1952 said “God renames Jacob for the first time (See 35:10 for the first renaming). God says that Jacob will henceforth be called Israel, but the Bible continues to call him Jacob anyway. And even God himself calls him Jacob in 46:2. 32:28, 35:10”
Dr James “God was not necessarily talking about that man, but the man offspring, also Jacob was called Israel in his own life time, both by God and by others.”
(#1)Fine 1952 said “The tribe of Judah will reign "until Shiloh," but Israel's first king (Saul) was from the tribe of Benjamin (Acts 13:21), and most of the time after this prophecy there was no king at all. 49:10”
(#2) Dr James said “The tribe of Judah will reign "until Shiloh," but Israel's first king (Saul) was from the tribe of Benjamin (Acts 13:21), and most of the time after this prophecy there was no king at all. 49:10. Shiloh is the name for the Messiah”
Fine also know that shiloh is speaking of Jesus because the same place he copied his tex from is the same place I copied mine from. look at (#1) to (#2) look att eh foot notes below. This person is trying to derail the faith of the Christians on this board.
1. Shiloh comes (Genesis 49:10). Shiloh is an epithet of the Messiah and can have no other meaning. It refers to the second coming of Christ who will fulfill the next part of the verse.
2. He gathers the people (Genesis 49:10). Unto Him (Shiloh) shall the people gather; that is, at Christ's second coming Israel will be gathered from the four quarters of the earth (Isaiah 11:10-12; Isaiah 60:8-9; Isaiah 66:19-21; Ezekiel 37; Matthew 24:31). The Messiah will rule Israel (Isaiah 9:6-7; Luke 1:32-33) and all nations when He comes (Daniel 2:44-45; Daniel 7:13-14,27; Zech. 14; Rev. 11:15; Rev. 20:4-6; Rev. 22:5).
Fine 1952 said “God promises to bring Jacob safely back from Egypt, but Jacob dies in Egypt (Gen.47:28-29) 46:3-4”
Dr James said. You figure this one out, leave this one in place so it can take down some fake Christians.
“I have not come here to debate anyone. I only debate with my equals; all others I teach. "John Henrik Clarke"
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24-06-08, 09:25 PM
Hello Sister Fine 1952 and Dr. James . This is Where The Knowledge of Aramaic Ugaritic Hebrew comes in. You do not have to be a expert in the language but the basic meaning of the alphabet and its words.
THE TERM SHILOH REFERS TO ANY KING OF ISRAEL WHO ESTABILSHES OR RE-ESTABLISHES A KINGDOM WHERE ISRAELITES ARE AT, WHETHER IN ISRAEL OR IN A HOST COUNTRY SO TO SPEAK. ANY KING WHO DOES THIS IS CALLED A MESSIAH.
THE SPIRITUALITY OF ISRAELITES ARE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER AFRICAN-ASIATIC TRIBAL-ETHNIC SOCIAL GROUPS WHO ALL HAVE SOME FORM AND TYPE OF A MESSIAH SPIRITUALITY SYSTEM. IT MUST ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED, AS ANY
HEBREW/JEW WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MESSIAH VENERATION IS NOT A RELIGION
AS CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS AND OTHERS HAVE MADE IT OUT TO BE BUT
IS A SPIRITUALITY AND CONSCIOUSNESS AMONG THE PEOPLES.
SHILOH DOES NOT NECESSARILY REFER TO YAHSHUA MOSHAKKA ( JESUS CHRIST )
BUT HE IS INCLUDED IN THE REFERENCE. MOSES, DAVID AND SOLOMON WERE ALSO CALLED SHILOH BY THE ISRAELITES AND STILL ARE. ALSO BLACK ISRAELITES HAVE ALWAYS HAD TWO BELIEFS ABOUT A MESSIAH/SHILOH.
THAT IS A EARTHLY ONE ( THE MATERIAL MESSIAH, THE WORLD OF NATURE )
AND A SPIRITUAL, METAPHYSICAL ONE ( A ASTRAL, SPIRITUAL MESSIAH ).
THE DOCTRINES OF MELCHIZEDEK AND YAHSHUA MOSHAKKA ( JESUS CHRIST )
SHOWS THIS IN THEIR TEACHINGS.
THE CHRISTIAN BELIEF OF JUST SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR THE RETURN OF
YAHSHUA MOSHAKKA IS JUST ABOUT AS DANGEROUS AND FALSE AS YOU CAN GET.!!!
IT SERVES ITS PURPOSE FOR THIS ESTABLISHMENT THOUGH.!!! ISRAELITES IN THE MESSIAH SPIRITUALITY AND CONSCIOUSNESSS KNOWS THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT BRINGS MESSIAH TO US AND YOU CANNOT RUN AWAY FROM THIS REAL WORLD OF NATURE IN ORDER TO DO SO.
There is a Lot, Lot More connected to this Original, UnAdulturated Belief AND Practice System of True and Real Israel But this is as far as I will go .!!!
Thank You All, Shalom El Hetep and Have A Nice Day. !!!
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24-06-08, 10:11 PM
Thank you for your input.
“I have not come here to debate anyone. I only debate with my equals; all others I teach. "John Henrik Clarke"
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Fine1952 -
25-06-08, 06:36 AM
says The Adam and Eye Myth has been debunked. Fact is the bible was inspired by the Sibyls (e.g. the correct spelling was "Cybeles" -- is seems {as usual} the Greeks got a hold of this word and changed the spelling, too!)
You and other male chauvanist types will never accept this fact because you have your head too far up the annals of the bible to ever recognize that your constipated thinking is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by DrJames
Fine 1952 said “Genesis God says that if Adam eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then the day that he does so, he will die. But later Adam eats the forbidden fruit (3:6) and yet lives for another 930 years (5:5). 2:17”
Dr. James said. “Is Adam alive today? God did not tell him exactly what time he is going to die. Does it matter what time he died as long as he died?”
Fine 1952 said “How long was the Egyptian captivity? This verse says 400 years, but Ex.12:40 and Gal.3:17 say 430 years. 15:13”
Dr James said. Fine did not read any of this for himself or her self, he she copied it some place off the net. From the time, God gave the command that Israel must be free. It was 400 years. By the time the king of Egypt decided to comply and Israel finally left Egypt it was another thirty years, make it up to 430. When Abraham Lincoln said the Negroes must be free, the Negroes were free that same day on the book, but did not obtain their freedom until seven years later. The slave master came up with a plan that the slaves must serve and apprentice program for seven more years.
Fine 1952 said “God renames Jacob for the first time (See 35:10 for the first renaming). God says that Jacob will henceforth be called Israel, but the Bible continues to call him Jacob anyway. And even God himself calls him Jacob in 46:2. 32:28, 35:10”
Dr James “God was not necessarily talking about that man, but the man offspring, also Jacob was called Israel in his own life time, both by God and by others.”
(#1)Fine 1952 said “The tribe of Judah will reign "until Shiloh," but Israel's first king (Saul) was from the tribe of Benjamin (Acts 13:21), and most of the time after this prophecy there was no king at all. 49:10”
(#2) Dr James said “The tribe of Judah will reign "until Shiloh," but Israel's first king (Saul) was from the tribe of Benjamin (Acts 13:21), and most of the time after this prophecy there was no king at all. 49:10. Shiloh is the name for the Messiah”
Fine also know that shiloh is speaking of Jesus because the same place he copied his tex from is the same place I copied mine from. look at (#1) to (#2) look att eh foot notes below. This person is trying to derail the faith of the Christians on this board.
1. Shiloh comes (Genesis 49:10). Shiloh is an epithet of the Messiah and can have no other meaning. It refers to the second coming of Christ who will fulfill the next part of the verse.
2. He gathers the people (Genesis 49:10). Unto Him (Shiloh) shall the people gather; that is, at Christ's second coming Israel will be gathered from the four quarters of the earth (Isaiah 11:10-12; Isaiah 60:8-9; Isaiah 66:19-21; Ezekiel 37; Matthew 24:31). The Messiah will rule Israel (Isaiah 9:6-7; Luke 1:32-33) and all nations when He comes (Daniel 2:44-45; Daniel 7:13-14,27; Zech. 14; Rev. 11:15; Rev. 20:4-6; Rev. 22:5).
Fine 1952 said “God promises to bring Jacob safely back from Egypt, but Jacob dies in Egypt (Gen.47:28-29) 46:3-4”
Dr James said. You figure this one out, leave this one in place so it can take down some fake Christians.
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