Why didn't the white man try and set the beginning some place other than Africa..?

meknow · (#1 (**permalink**))

Like Switzerland or Scandinavia....or even Norway..?

if he concocted it he did a piss pour job making him preimenent a student of the bible would conclude easily.

Why would he use those particular rivers that pinpointed Africa as the cradle of civilization....

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#2 (**permalink**))

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Like Switzerland or Scandinavia....or even Norway..?

if he concocted it he did a piss pour job making him preimenent a student of the bible would conclude easily.

Why would he use those particular rivers that pinpointed Africa as the cradle of civilization....

You talk as if Indo-Europeans actually founded the ideas in the book of Genesis. The entire creation story to most of the details in the Garden of Eden were borrowed from ancient Egyptian theosophy. When a people bast.ardize something, it may still have elements of the more pure doctrine, but they have no idea what any of it means...which is why all Christians and Hebrew/Jews today don't know what any of the Bible actually means either. Everyone has their silly ideas and interpretations.

meknow · (#3 (**permalink**))

first you say that the white man is clever and has rewrote the bible and now you are saying that he did not konw what was being said in the bible.

come on shemsi...some consistancy is needed here...

i am beginning to see more clearly that the white man had very little to do with what is written in the bible...but yes he surely did affect transltion where he introduced it. but when you read it especially in the greek and hebrew you get the message that God intended....

hate white all you want...the bible is separate.

men can abuse the bible like anyother thing in this universe but what ever truth is a part of the 'thing' will certainly be manifest....

Sblizzy · (#4 (**permalink**))

No matter how it's sliced and diced. Now matter how they slip this in or that in for their own convenience, God prevails and that cannot be twisted. No matter how you attempt to. We as black people, no matter where you are, are spiritual people by nature. It's just in us. So no matter what they put us through, no matter who claims what, just like the bible, God prevails. His grace and mercy is all in and around us.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#5 (**permalink**))

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first you say that the white man is clever and has rewrote the bible and now you are saying that he did not konw what was being said in the bible.

come on shemsi...some consistancy is needed here...

i am beginning to see more clearly that the white man had very little to do with what is written in the bible...but yes he surely did affect transltion where he introduced it. but when you read it especially in the greek and hebrew you get the message that God intended....

hate white all you want...the bible is separate.

men can abuse the bible like anyother thing in this universe but what ever truth is a part of the 'thing' will certainly be manifest....

You talk about "consistency" which is one thing, but reading comprehension without injecting your own preconceived notions is something you fail miserably at. You won't find a single post of me expressing hatred towards Indo-Europeans or referring to them as "clever" in rewriting the Bible.

They did doctor the Bible to suit themselves, but you are posting out of pure emotion with no basis in fact or rationality. If you really want to contend with my study of both the Bible and correlated Afrikan history then at least make an honest effort to understand and respond to this old thread I created before your days here at BNV. Then we could perhaps begin to have an intelligent discussion on the subject within an Afrikan framework (link below)...

***The Hebrews were NOT "Black"***

meknow · (#6 (**permalink**))

calm down fellah...then you are admitting that the white man is pretty stupid in doctoring the bible especially leaving in so much about Africa being the cradle of civilization and not putting in enough to put to them as being the supreme race as they are trying to become.

my they missed a great opportunity huh...?

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#7 (**permalink**))

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calm down fellah...then you are admitting that the white man is pretty stupid in doctoring the bible especially leaving in so much about Africa being the cradle of civilization and not putting in enough to put to them as being the supreme race as they are trying to become.

my they missed a great opportunity huh...?

I think you need to fully understand when the Levitic (abdicated Egyptian Aten priesthood) tradition amongst the Israelites was usurped (900-500 BCE). This time period we are talking about was hundreds of years before the Tanakh (Old Testament) was ever written, and I have detailed in the thread exactly which time period it originated in ancient Egypt (18th Dynasty).

At that time, there weren't the same notions of "race". However, Semitic peoples Hebrews/Jews/Arabs/etc. were still White Supremacist/racist people even then. They just arrogantly assumed that THEY must have been the first persons in the Nile Valley where civilization began. This can be gathered from Genesis 3:24 where Adam and Eve were expelled from the "Garden of Eden" to the East (of the Nile) which is where you find the Hebrews in most of their travels in the first 5 books of the Bible.

meknow · (#8 (**permalink**))

now that is some deep shyt man...hahahahahahahah

Sblizzy · (#9 (**permalink**))

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I think you need to fully understand when the Levitic (abdicated Egyptian Aten priesthood) tradition amongst the Israelites was usurped (900-500 BCE). This time period we are talking about was hundreds of years before the Tanakh (Old Testament) was ever written, and I have detailed in the thread exactly which time period it originated in ancient Egypt (18th Dynasty).

At that time, there weren't the same notions of "race". However, Semitic peoples Hebrews/Jews/Arabs/etc. were still White Supremacist/racist people even then. They just arrogantly assumed that THEY must have been the first persons in the Nile Valley where civilization began. This can be gathered from Genesis 3:24 where Adam and Eve were expelled from the "Garden of Eden" to the East (of the Nile) which is where you find the Hebrews in most of their travels in the first 5 books of the Bible.

Were the jews ever african? What did they mean when Moses (Moshe) who was ethiopian passed for a jew?

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#10 (**permalink**))

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Were the jews ever african? What did they mean when Moses (Moshe) who was ethiopian passed for a jew?

You really should quote the exact scripture you speak of instead of vague posts. However, I believe you are probably talking about when he was sent in a basket along the river.

2 things to consider:

Semitic people, especially Arabs and Hebrews/Jews, were never a homogonous ethnic group. The purported baby Moses would have been identified by his tribal clothing, not his phenotype.
Moses was not Hebrew, he was a Levite (Exodus 2:1-3). If you read the Bible closely, and have cognizance of Afrikan history, then even if Moses existed him being a Levite means he was Afrikan and not Hebrew.

meknow · (#11 (**permalink**))

shemsi, I just read your signature...

now there is something i can agree with.

i use their laws against them. i try the system. i don't fight them i tempt them to tear down their laws to withhold my rights from me.

i don't care about civil rights just keep the law....

DrJames · (#12 (**permalink**))

That is the only place they can put it and get away with it.