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Le moor come on now..please England to win the world cup...no a friggin chance in hell..guranteed the press with mess withÂ*the players heads before a ball is kicked..they can't help themselves..
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exactly.....
they chat so much... (mmmmm..how do the english youths say )...FRAFF...remember...rooney in the uefa cup...
he is better than pele...???
twhen they start that shit it makes me want them to lose...
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29-03-05, 11:54 PM
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Le moor come on now..please England to win the world cup...no a friggin chance in hell..guranteed the press with mess withÂ*the players heads before a ball is kicked..they can't help themselves..
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exactly.....
they chat so much... (mmmmm..how do the english youths say )...FRAFF...remember...rooney in the uefa cup...
he is better than pele...???
twhen they start that shit it makes me want them to lose...
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30-03-05, 02:32 AM
"Bele there are 3 decent players in that Dutch team Stam, Nistelroy and Robben and Robben is unproven in a big tournament"
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Are you crazy! Phillip Cocu, Davids, Makaay, Bronkhorst, and the 19 year old Ryan Babel are also decent players Ericksson would love to have.
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30-03-05, 09:25 AM
Are you crazy! Phillip Cocu, Davids, Makaay, Bronkhorst, and the 19 year old Ryan Babel are also decent players Ericksson would love to have.
Bele please Cocu is one of those players wid a name but has done nothing significant in his entire career. He can easily be made non existence by Gerrard, Beckham, Cole and Lampard. Bronkhorst ...........is that Broken Horse you mean......... Hes an Arsenal reject and werent even that impressive in Scotland. Davids needs to get a deck chair to go wid those glasses and retire his arse cos hes long past his sell by date along wid that Gerry Curl fool Patrick Klivert.
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30-03-05, 01:38 PM
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Put it this way, England are FAR FAR FAR more likely to have a black captain in the near future than win the World Cup!!!
(but as someone already said only under a manger like Erickson NOT one like Venables)
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30-03-05, 03:49 PM
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Are you crazy! Phillip Cocu, Davids, Makaay, Bronkhorst, and the 19 year old Ryan Babel are also decent players Ericksson would love to have.
Bele please Cocu is one of those players wid a name but has done nothing significant in his entire career. He can easily be made non existence by Gerrard, Beckham, Cole and Lampard. Bronkhorst ...........is that Broken Horse you mean......... Hes an Arsenal reject and werent even that impressive in Scotland. Davids needs to get a deck chair to go wid those glasses and retire his arse cos hes long past his sell by date along wid that Gerry Curl fool Patrick Klivert.
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Cocu just scored a beautiful header against Romania Saturday man......Against Romania. LOL It is a shame that Robben was carried off the field after the 21st minute I think. I know Momo sh*tted a brick when he saw that. I think that Robben is too fragile.
Seriously though don't forget about Seedorf another great midfielder.
I still don't see Holland winning because they never seem to be able to focus as a team. They have the talent but they just lose focus in games.
England needs midfield help. Period. Maybe they can kidnap a Brazilian and naturalize him LOL
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30-03-05, 04:00 PM
@Safetyblitz i give you Sedorf and dont know enough about Babel but im deadly serious about the rest especially Cou-Cou i who i reckon is well overated. even Serorf is not a player to necessarily worry about.
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30-03-05, 05:27 PM
Are you crazy! Phillip Cocu, Davids, Makaay, Bronkhorst, and the 19 year old Ryan Babel are also decent players Ericksson would love to have.
Bele please Cocu is one of those players wid a name but has done nothing significant in his entire career. He can easily be made non existence by Gerrard, Beckham, Cole and Lampard. Bronkhorst ...........is that Broken Horse you mean......... Hes an Arsenal reject and werent even that impressive in Scotland. Davids needs to get a deck chair to go wid those glasses and retire his arse cos hes long past his sell by date along wid that Gerry Curl fool Patrick Klivert.
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Le Moor please, Cocu is a lotbetter then most that Ericksson can field. Brockhorstis still good player, and better then Haskey, the Neville brothers. Davids much better then shebeckham.
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30-03-05, 05:37 PM
England have no chance. Stop it please.
You know whats worse.. they will win tonight and media will get excited and think that because they beat frigging Azerbeizhan (however you spell that) that they can win shit...
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My advice?
Drop Beckham as captain and from the team. He offers nothing anymore. No Joe Cole. Stop dreaming people... he is not Aimar or Deco no matter how much the papers tell you he is. The backline is pretty balanced and solid so I would leave that as it is. With Campbell or Terry partnering Rio and Nevilla and smeghead Ashley. Goalkeeper is mediocre but Ill leave that as there are no superior replacements.
Lampard would be retained as he is more disciplined that Gerrard. Gerrard is always trying the killer ball and inevitably always losing posession Always trying to long ball everything and be fancy. And we always say "ooooooo, well you can see what he was trying to do, what genius" bollocks! Genius woulda made the pass. He cant tackle either (you are blind Le moor) he just rashly dives in and fouls and the media calls him "determined". RUBBISH. Gerrard cant be dropped but he would be clearly told to be a holding player and if he cant control himself and keep shape then he would be replaced by Jenas or Parker. Inferior I know but they keep shape and dont go charging about everywhere and their passing is tidier.
I can see your eyebrows rising with that one but listen. I have SEEN Gerrard pla before. He is sloppy and wasteful. Lamps is much tidier and keeps possesion. I would try Dowing on the left because at international level you need to cross the ball quickly not cut in and try run...
Ericsson would go because he has no nuts and no passion.
Ince was a black captain and so was Cambell once but then having the band for a game or two and being the captain are different things. Becks is the captain in the proper sense regardless of wether Owen wears the band for a game. Becks gets interviewed and does all the capatainy duties (whatever they are). Will we have a black captain in that sense, one who is there for a few years?
Dunno. Not anytime soon.
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Apparently Robinho had to flee Brazil because of kidknap fears for his mother. Its been increasing recently and a few Argentinian and Brazilian high profile players have had family kidknapped recently. Going by what Ive read, the aithorities believe there is a organised group targeting the family of high profile players from South America. Robinho is still a kid, I wonder how that will affect him.
I think that the European clubs are too quick to swoop on the Brazilian and South American youth anyway. They dont get a chance to mature, look at Del Alessandro and Saviola for example. Kaka might buck the trend though.
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30-03-05, 05:46 PM
Ince was a black captain and so was Cambell once but then having the band for a game or two and being the captain are different things. Becks is the captain in the proper sense regardless of wether Owen wears the band for a game. Becks gets interviewed and does all the capatainy duties (whatever they are). Will we have a black captain in that sense, one who is there for a few years?
Dunno. Not anytime soon.
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Yeah Drunk, all the media reports I have read was saying next captain would be Terry, I wonder is he not getting in to the first team, because Cambell is injured? Why not Cambell orRioas full time captain?
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30-03-05, 05:54 PM
Drunk your having a lugh about Gerrard but everything else is spot on though
Gerrard in club competion is as gangster as it gets. He sucks as an International so far thugh. Gerrad does try that killer ball too much but he is a dope tackler, dont forget he is a converted defender
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30-03-05, 06:04 PM
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Gerrard goes missing in internationals. Well no that's not quite true. He doesnt go missing, he goes chasing after the ball and constantly trying to attack.
Both him AND Lampard cant attack... Who is covering the defence?
What happens is that they lose the ball and cant win it back so the defence gets pushed back further and further and as a result England take on a defensive shape when they have attacking players...
The forwards get starved because midfield is messy and wasteful and Gerrard runs about banging into people and "getting stuck in" but rarely being useful at it.
One of the HAS to be the defensive one. One of them has to STAY back. Since Lampard is more tidy and better short passer than Gerrard (dont argue just watch and see) then Lampard should attack. He also has a better shot (again dont argue). Gerrard's tackling is poor but he needs to learn to keep shape since Frank cant do that at all.
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