hmmmm, maybe i werent watching properly but i dont remember seeing a certain alou diarra on the pitch in the final. I think you meant juve by the way.

@ Safety i see what you mean on veron, but even ifaimar wouldnt cut itin the prem hewouldnt be veron2 simply becuase he wouldnt cost 25 million. He would come reasonably cheap (Valencia are a generous club).

Safety you admitted once you started watching footy recently right? Believe me when I say Beckham used to be a great player once. He USED to be. Back in the day he was the fittest player for united and England and stats showed he got more mileage than any other player in the premiership. 60% of United goals came through Beckham assists during his time there which is simply ridicolous. See back then Alex Fergusson had Beckham disciplined and Beckham STAYED ON THE WING. He put in ball after ball and united scored stupid amounts of goals. Everybody knew what he was about and it was predictable, his double act with Neville but nobody could stop it.

I'll tell you when it changed. England played Greece in a world cup qualifier and every England player was crap. Crapper than usual I mean. Only Beckham played that day. He played the game of his life and played all over the pitch. Missed half a dozen free kicks but scored a dramatic one in the last minute. Sounds good right? The problem was it made him start to believe he was a central midfielder and could playmake and dominate a game. He cant do that and he never could. But the delusions were so set in now it ruined him and his focus. No longer content to stay on the wing where he had been so effective he kept attempting to drift in and play central even when starting on the wing. You notice that with him today. His ego spoiled his play.

It's been too long now to change and for about five years Beckham has been very crap with brief glimpses of his old self but never quite getting there. Also his kicking technique ruined his back. Did you know he takes injections to stop his back pain before games? He bends himself so awkwardly he's ruined.

Beckham may have in your opinion been one of Engladns better players in the WC but what is that saying? England were so dreadful any fool could have stood out.

This is when Beckham was good. Notice they don't mention him since this vid is about Yorke and Cole but you watch how many times Beckham is involved and in what nature... He doesn't do this anymore

tobitrice wrote: He came on for Vieira when Vieira got injured in the 56th minute

France

• 16 F Barthez
• 19 W Sagnol
• 15 L Thuram
• 05 W Gallas
• 03 E Abidal
• 22 F Ribery (100 D Trezeguet )
• 04 P Vieira (56 A Diarra )
• 06 C Makelele
• 10 Z Zidane
• 07 F Malouda
• 12 T Henry (107 S Wiltord )

Vieira started out in the French championship with Cannes, where he honed his considerable defensive attributes. On the Côte d'Azur, he emerged as a formidable tackler, but was deployed in wide midfield rather than the centre of the park. Before long, he was snapped up by AC Milan.
After making just two first-team appearances for the Rossoneri, he moved on to the Gunners of Arsenal, where he quickly developed into one of the top players in the world. During the 1997/98 season, he won the English league & cup double, an achievement he would repeat in 2001/02.


1993-1995 Cannes (FRA) 1996-1996 AC Milan (ITA) 1996-2005 Arsenal (ENG) Since 2005 Juventus (ITA)
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/...A_Patrick.html

Safety that's my point! He peaked more than six years ago. When he left for Madrid it was down down downhill... like everybody else who goes there LOL He has lived off the name he made for himself in the 90s. Beckham is a 90s player who doesn't belong in todays game. During his time however I assure you he WAS the best winger in the world bar none. I wouldn't believe it if I were you watching today either.

BTW Totti has always been crap! Supremly overrated. Just like Del Pierro who had two good years before he broke his leg and that was almost 10 years ago lol. Them man live off reputation and hype like it's not funny.

At least SAF is seeing sense in not chasing a striker. http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/stor...t/sport2.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/5222956.stm





Dm if it's true I would question what Saf is thinking. He'll be a decent addition to your squad but he's no keane and certainly not worth that amount

It must be nearly time for the new season when the Fergie's lost it artlicles start to come out:


"For United fans? Forget it. After three seasons of papering over the cracks, it seems most United fans are awaiting the moment that the fault lines tracing a veiny path across Old Trafford are exposed."


Almost everything about the club reeks of disarray. Owned by the Glazers, who push buttons from a remote hideaway like Dr Evil; run by a manager who shreds his legacy at every turn; almost exclusively represented by the inadequate (Darren Fletcher and Kieran Richardson) and the odious (Rio Ferdinand); unable to close a deal for West Brom's reserve keeper, never mind the new Roy Keane. The signing of Michael Carrick, a Pirlo when a Gattuso was needed, is a band aid for a bullet wound, and a ludicrously expensive one at that.

If anything, it's a surprise that United have bought anyone at all. This summer, they have been like a pathetic drunk lumbering across a dancefloor at 1.45am, trying to get off with everything that moves. No matter how many people they move in for - and if reports are to be believed, United have made offers for dozens of players - nobody wants to go near them. And the one person who surely would, Damien Duff, was allowed to slip into the arms of Newcastle for less than United paid for Patrice Evra. You couldn't make it up. You don't have to.


"It is an increasingly inescapable conclusion that, unwittingly or otherwise, Ferguson is winding down, a prizefighter who no longer has the stomach or the wit for an admittedly enormous challenge which, once upon a time, he would have fervently inhaled. Like he did with Liverpool. Ferguson's almost maniacal yearning to "knock Liverpool off their ****ing perch" was arguably the single most important factor in United's 1990s renaissance. It makes it all the more vicious an irony that, 10 years later, he should knock United off the perch he had made for them through increasingly rank mismanagement.
Indeed, it must irk him beyond belief that United are making exactly the same mistakes that Liverpool did: lack of pheromones in the transfer market; laughable, fall-back signings at suspicious and ridiculous prices; deluded ramblings ("we are as good as Chelsea, no question") - and, worst of all, a dressing-room where playing the field seems as important as playing the game. Liverpool's Spice Boys were bad, but they have nothing on Merk Berks like Ferdinand, Richardson and Wes Brown."

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...827876,00.html

£18m for Carrick??

Is this some sort of a joke or what?