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06-10-07, 07:43 PM
And furthermore, even though i mentioned the Johnson/Lewis senerio that was one such example. It doesnt mean that universally no-one has ever won titles as a drug free Athlete. I gave the senario purely to shed light on why she may of felt the need to take drugs, ie that they really do enhance your performance/training that much.
And dont be citing Carl Lewis like it adds any weight to your dumb arguement. I couldnt give a toss whether he was surprised or not. For a start the girl looked like the Incredible bloody hulk, and as soon as the rumours and regulators came sniffing she went from running as fast as Super Woman to as fast as my Aunt bloody Agnes. So i dont know where Carl Lewis is coming from but it was bloody obvious to any layman observing the situation.
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06-10-07, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gmahogany.
JB your request for an all doped up Olympics, may have already been fulfilled,without us knowing it. I was just reading an article about the IOC stripping Marion's medals. It said that the most coveted one that she got for the 100 meter race, would go to the Greek runner who came in second place, her name is Thanou or something, Anyway, apparently SHE has had some doping problems, and was suspended for 2 years after the Athens games,in 2004. In spite of this, since the IOC can't prove that this chick was doping in 2000 and she hasn't admitted it, they will probably still have to give the gold medal to her, once they take it from Marion. You gotta love it.
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If this is true then the whole thing has become a joke.....Thanou is a bigger cheat than Marion...
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06-10-07, 07:54 PM
She the one who faked a motorbike crash in Athens to avoid dope testing lol
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06-10-07, 09:07 PM
It's always funny how fans defend their idols. Marion Jones is a cheat. Not just a cheat but a big liar as well.
She always denied all doping accusations...lol
Now she admits taking steroids. Why would I believe a liar? Maybe she already started it back in high school? We never know.
Only her fans will remember her records and her alleged super talent, the rest of the world will remember her as a liar and cheat..Number 18253 in doping history
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06-10-07, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by huskagee
It's always funny how fans defend their idols. Marion Jones is a cheat. Not just a cheat but a big liar as well.
She always denied all doping accusations...lol
Now she admits taking steroids. Why would I believe a liar? Maybe she already started it back in high school? We never know.
Only her fans will remember her records and her alleged super talent, the rest of the world will remember her as a liar and cheat..Number 18253 in doping history
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It's funny to me how haters like to project their OWN agenda onto what other folks are writing. A. I never said she didn't cheat. B. I never said she didn't lie. She was a convincing, indignant, emphatic, angry,CONSISTENT, liar,lol. I SAID SHE DIDN'T NEED TO DO THOSE THINGS, from a TALENT standpoint, unlike some runners who very much did need to do those things,documented HER records/accolades to support my comments about HER TALENT, and folks started catching feelings,lol. Her fans, family and friends are the MOST pissed off at her, with good reason.
Furthermore, I introduced the notion that she MAY have been doping as far back as jr. high school. She would have to have been to be running the times and setting the records she did, if one believes that she never had any talent from the get go. I didn't dismiss that as a possibility. Yet Fric and Frac both decide to bust up in the spot with that premise, LIKE I NEVER SAID THE SHIT,, AND LIKE THEY ARE ARE ON SOME COLUMBO/KOJACK SHIT,LOL. In spite of that, the haters first take a position of. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SHE DID IN JR. HIGH SCHOOL/HIGH SCHOOL, then when that doesn't stick, the position changes to: IT MATTERS, BUT SHE WAS CHEATING WAY BACK THEN,TOO. Way to cover your bases.
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06-10-07, 09:32 PM
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She the one who faked a motorbike crash in Athens to avoid dope testing lol
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You got it.
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06-10-07, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gmahogany.
JB your request for an all doped up Olympics, may have already been fulfilled,without us knowing it. I was just reading an article about the IOC stripping Marion's medals. It said that the most coveted one that she got for the 100 meter race, would go to the Greek runner who came in second place, her name is Thanou or something, Anyway, apparently SHE has had some doping problems, and was suspended for 2 years after the Athens games,in 2004. In spite of this, since the IOC can't prove that this chick was doping in 2000 and she hasn't admitted it, they will probably still have to give the gold medal to her, once they take it from Marion. You gotta love it.
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God its a farce isnt it??
All this doping business has become a joke,I cant even trust what i'm seeing anymore,at least if everyone admitted to doping and it was legal,then we'd know what we were dealing with.
I used to love to watch the Tour De France but now I just cant be bothered coz it just seems lately that every mofo who was winning a stage,the next day I would read about their disqualification coz of doping.Makes me think when I see old cine footage of Tours gone by and the riders would literally have a cigarette in one hand and a glass of red wine in the other,lol........now they were proper althletes,pounding their body with those substances and they wer still making it up those mountains.
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06-10-07, 10:06 PM
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She the one who faked a motorbike crash in Athens to avoid dope testing lol
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Her?????????????
Raaah!
Then they might as well put the Olympics on hiatus coz its lost the last shred of credibility it may have had.
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06-10-07, 11:50 PM
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God its a farce isnt it??
All this doping business has become a joke,I cant even trust what i'm seeing anymore,at least if everyone admitted to doping and it was legal,then we'd know what we were dealing with.
I used to love to watch the Tour De France but now I just cant be bothered coz it just seems lately that every mofo who was winning a stage,the next day I would read about their disqualification coz of doping.Makes me think when I see old cine footage of Tours gone by and the riders would literally have a cigarette in one hand and a glass of red wine in the other,lol........now they were proper althletes,pounding their body with those substances and they wer still making it up those mountains.
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But even the old guys were full of illegal substances.
I guess it was Eddy Merckx who said that people must be crazy to think that you can get over mountains, not just once but every day and only with the help of apple juice.
Pro sport is a big illusion. They cannot win the war against doping, it's way too late. Maybe they should give the medals to the athletes and the pharmaceutical sponsor should be given a medal as well or better play the anthem of the pharma group's country. So I guess Germany will dominate sports, thanks to the dominance in the pharma industry
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07-10-07, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by huskagee
But even the old guys were full of illegal substances.
I guess it was Eddy Merckx who said that people must be crazy to think that you can get over mountains, not just once but every day and only with the help of apple juice.
Pro sport is a big illusion. They cannot win the war against doping, it's way too late. Maybe they should give the medals to the athletes and the pharmaceutical sponsor should be given a medal as well or better play the anthem of the pharma group's country. So I guess Germany will dominate sports, thanks to the dominance in the pharma industry
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I'm talking 1920's and 30's Tour de France,what kind of roids did they have??,can't imagine they had any then...however wouldnt be surprised if they were doing lines of coke or whatever,who knows???
I hate that there is so much cheating in sport because there is so MUCH natural ability out there,the cheating taints results,records and stats etc.
The thing is the temptation to cheat is soooooooo huge because once you win an Olympic Gold medal,you are an instant millionaire,many times over and all that training blood,sweat and tears pays off big style...shoot,you dont even have to be an Olympian to make that kind a cheddar,just win the Worlds and your sorted for life.It of course doesnt justify it,but if athletes know they are not competing on a level playing field from jump,what choice do they have???? I guess the choice is to go the IOC and voice your complaints about everyone you suspect is doping and never do any competing yourself?? or you play the game,no matter how rancid.
Personally id have to pass on the roid route if I were an althlete,you only get one heart and I wouldnt want my s..hit exploding on the track,not for any amount of potential money.
I aint asking for nothing,just open the door and i\'ll take it myself-James Brown.
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08-10-07, 01:49 PM
No sympathy for her or any other drugs cheat. Flo-Jo died before she was found out. All this is completely ruining the sport. Athletics has no credibility whatsoever
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