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12-06-05, 06:55 PM
This is especially the case in science or medically related fields. I feelin such aminority. But when I step out of campus there are black people everywhere. What's the deal?
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12-06-05, 07:02 PM
where are you talking about? UK or US?
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12-06-05, 07:33 PM
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"This is especially the case in science or medically related fields. I feel in such a minority. But when I step out of campus there are black people everywhere. What's the deal?"
[b]First off I have to ask where are you located? I'm in the SouthWestern USA and I have to say that it is all relative. I know from experience that many people opt to go to vocation/trade schools, certificate programs while others go to work and get on the job training. I have grown up with Kats that skipped college while I spent fours years, accumulated debts only to graduate and make less money than those kats who went to trade school. Money is important and remember that time is money so that could be a reason.
Another issue is schools, many in the Black areas in the USA have weak to non-existent college prep, science programs and worse. In my high school we had a good guidance staff that sat down with every student and helped them plot their future in their first year and monitored us every year until gradution. It was a requirement to apply to a college or trade school prior to graduation. This worked at my high school where many of the kids parents lacked a high school diploma, didn't understand college or how to apply for financial aide. In the other not so fortunate schools these services are severely lacking and stimulating technology courses are non-existent.
Perhaps you can make a difference and go to the middle and high schools, in and around your community and recruit folks, start a sciencce club and get the ball rolling.
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12-06-05, 07:40 PM
I meant in the UK.
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12-06-05, 07:47 PM
chat aload of bollocks girl
in my Pharmacy course 90% NO LIE are black and Asians, same with engineering etc
the white people tend to choose history, english, sociology....................
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12-06-05, 08:15 PM
The main reason I hate the medical field is b/c its extremely hard to get into another field if you arent satified with the occupation.Your pretty much stuck in the medical field,unlike say business..Also to be a doctor it involves insanly long hours with little admiration for what you do...
I also know that in the U.S. blacks are really into entreprenership. Soinstead of wasting 4 years in college they just wantedto get right into business.I myself amreally thinking about taking a few years off from law school to build my businessempire...
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12-06-05, 08:49 PM
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chat aload of bollocks girl
in my Pharmacy course 90% NO LIE are black and Asians, same with engineering etc
the white people tend to choose history, english, sociology....................
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...also I'd imagine it woulddepend on where you chose to study.
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I did my first degree in the West Midlands, and of a course of 115 people, I was the only Black guy person doing Economics & Statistics. My Masters was a different matter, as it was back home in sunny London, where more people stayed at home with mummy and did the course from home...
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Things HAVE changed a lot in the last ten years, with more black people going onto higher education, though often it is at the 'newer' universities with used to either be the old Polytechnics or Colleges of Higher Education....
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...all part of Blair's aim to get 50% of the population into Higher Education so that we'll have the most highest qualified call centres in Western Europe... He is ignoring the value of Vocational qualifications, and simply out to create more Worker Ants to keep the cogs of society moving.
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To answer the thread startersinitial question, we still have the sad statistic that we have more brother in jail than in higher education, part of which being the bullcrap peer pressureof underachieving, so as not to lose face with their friends. Utter bollocks isn't it?
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Forty years ago, we had systematic barriers to entry of entry to University that impeded us; now the biggest barriers to entry are the mindsets of the ignorant who would ratherplay the fool in school, lower their aspirations and reject the infinitely greater opportunities that are afforded to them in the 21st century...
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...The sisters are still doing it fine style, but we need more brothers to carry the baton, and pass it on. It's not a dire situation, but one that I pray will continue to get better...
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...for our sakes, and for our advancement i the UK and society in general, it has to, for education is the keythat opens many doors...
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12-06-05, 09:00 PM
Too many blck ppl like Black_Power in our community, which is why we are underachieving as a community. WE need to have more high IQ blacks in the population. LOL
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12-06-05, 09:13 PM
Its all about the foundations you had as a primary school pupil and whether you are financially stable.
If no one (teacher, parent or government)pushed you in that direction, you're bound to take the easy option, and do a course that takes less time to complete, guarantees you a job and requires 'less' learning. Or a course that the govt pays you to do, so less debt. Think social or carework - must be the easiest job for a black person to get in this country.
offtopic.gifI also wondered why i hardly ever see black people at museums and galleries.
Some will hate you, pretend they love you now
Then behind they try to eliminate you
But who Jah bless, no man curse
Thank God, we\'re past the worse
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12-06-05, 09:13 PM
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This is especially the case in science or medically related fields. I feelin such aminority. But when I step out of campus there are black people everywhere. What's the deal?
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Because quite frankly there isn't that many black people in the UK.
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12-06-05, 09:21 PM
Tru-Afri-Canwrote:
I also wondered whyI hardly ever see black people at museums and galleries.
The internet is a beautiful thing.
Not that many black people in Europe.
Probably not that many Black people who live near museums.
BesidesI was in one in Birmingham the otherday, it was shite.
Now why don't I see many black people in the snooker hall? Answer: See above.
Why aren't many black people doing the same things as the white middleclasses.
Oh geeI don't know let me guess.
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12-06-05, 09:34 PM
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Cause black people are ignorant to rass.....!
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Really now, are you educating them?
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Some black people don't even CONSIDER going to university because the first thing they hear and the stigma around it is that, "THEREs TOO MUCH DEBT" , "YOU DON'T GET A PROPER JOB AFTER YOU'VE FINISHED ANYWAY" .....and all that crap....BLACK PEOPLE are always tooooo fast to jump on the excuses to avoid anything, even though they haven't experianced it yet ! Why do alot ofblack people carry this ignorant attitude...I DON'T UNDERSTAND...!
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Maybe meeting people like you who generalize and look down on them might put them off.
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I tell you one thing, whenI was at University, you know the people who where the most eager to make friends with me. Whites and Asians, workingclass ones at that, go figure. The Blacks didn't even want to know. Maybe it was my North Derbyshire accent that put them off.. It was only the Blacks above the age of thirty that I hadtime for anyway, maybe becausethey don't forget so easy eh!
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I amtalking from the U.K prespective looking at the U.K educationsystem....In england, the opportunity and support is there to do Anything you want at higher education, and you don't have to pay a penny until you earn a certain amount after you have finished university...! I think too many young british Black people are stupid (I'm talking about the ones who use the sorry-ass excuses) ...!In so many other POOR COUNTRIES around the world, peoplehave toPAY for there education, and they have to study in the pooriest conditions at the same time...! They would kill for the system that we have, InNigeria I know people who would study with just a CANDLE!
I have been to so many universities across britain and seen the population of blacks in some unversities and the numbers are terrible..! although there are the ones with high numbers....! It's like I get the impression that some black people who feel they are born into these slightly less advantaged areas, and they feel they have to live there life that way cause there too damn ignorant.....!
BLACK PEOPLE GO TO UNIVERSITY AND DON'T BECOME JUST ANOTHER BLACK STATISTIC PLEASE..!
Black people goto university if you desire too.
However don't go because you think it makes you better than the other blacks whomay have other goalsin mind.
And certainly don't bother if it turns you into a complete wanker.
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