....... It’s official extreme and supremist white nationalist groups are on the rise all over Europe, and the Americas, attacks on the ‘visible minorities’ ( blacks and Asians and not jews and gays ) are disproportionatly increasing ….

I remember watching a news report some time agao about 100 gypsies being driven out of their homes in northern Ireland by angry mobs.

3 News > World > Story > Romanian Gypsies attacked in Northern Ireland

I thought to myself what could it take for the white populace of the uk to turn on us… don’t say it could never happen…it happened to the jews in germany the Hutus and tootsies in Rwanda...

1) a single event i.e.e a black man killing the queen ?

2) media prints some lie ( the SUN newspaper naturally) that a disease caused by africans kills white people?

3) or a series of events that causes wyts to question

a) our allegiance to crown and country (ie. calling all blacks traitors to the u.k.[don't ask] )

b) our legitamacy to be here ( perhapes we are seen in the same light as gypsies)

c) many of the the usual wyt advocates of civil rights ( groups like liberty, Unite against facism , heck even liberal papers like the Guardian ) suddenly go out of business.


4) all whites suddenly feel as though minorites and blacks in particular have superseeded them as the dominate group within society ( i.e. the lie that whites have become second class citizens).

....these series of events while improbable are not impossible...

the white militants have been working, planning and training their youth for the days we are in for many years. they have compounds located around the US and in other countries filled with munitions, where they send their children to train shooting at black targets being indoctrinated with much of the old nazi teachings and worse.

While we have been busy singing, dancing, buying influence to be like the status quo of America, disconnecting from our families when we "make it", watching our youth kill each other, drugging ourselves and playing into the hands of the prison systems and worse.

At the point in time we are, were they to move there is little that we can do to resist in any formatible way.

white militants have always known that money is a means to an ends and have not been afraid to use it as such...we have not yet come to realize the nature of the beast and how to come against it...

yes but those are the ypes of people that will alweays be around... they will never trully gain power, but will always be on the fringes.
at the moment there are enough wyts that don't outright hate us ( notice how i didn't use the word like) to outnumber the crazies that outright want us all daed.... the moment when it's acceptable for people like rush limbargh ( spelling) to say hitler was right and blacks should go the same way... then you should get worried.

the only reason they don't move now is because of blacks in the police forces and military. that is the x factor along with the international response. too many nations are looking for an excuse to bring the US down a notch. they don't want to destroy it just reel it in.

The smart supremacist realize that a race war would weaken and put america in a vunerable situation even if it were a slaughter for them.

the fact that they can not be absolutely sure of the response of police and military forces is all that keeps the aryans and others from moving to be sure...

It wouldn't much to make a white nationalist turn against a minority.That doesn't mean that all white people will turn against black by extension of hating the acts of one black person though. People are far more tolerable than they were years ago and the modern youth care less and less about social issues of any kind. This is really paranoid thinking imo. Something that as a people in America i've always been proud to say we didn't sucumb too. Let whites worry when we might rise up or what will happen when latinos outnumber them. But we should not hold these kinds of fearful ideas too close to heart, fear is why white people acted the way they did (some still do).

fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering ~Yoda

i quite agree about fear zeb. i have been in the south most of my 59 years...my mother told me early i did not have enough sense to know when to be scared...

fear puts the advantage in the opponents court....can't have that can we?

i agree to a large extent to what zeb said, but.... america has a slightly different demographic than any other country in the world, the u.s. is trully ( atleast now) a melting pot. while it is probably true that the past of era of civil rights movement has cemented within the minds of many a youth the notions of equality and acceptance ( which has surpassed plain old 'tolerance') there are parts of the world in which people of colour are still minorities-like here in the u.k....

yes but are the young people of america really accepting of all minorities ?
...what the black muslims? i've heard a about a couple of remarks aimed at black muslims that wouldn't have happened if they just plain black , if you see what i mean

finances or money trumps race any day. race certainly is used by extremists of all color and geographical callings as that blame for everything from the taste of tooth paste to the name given to chicken places.

right now having a warm comfortable place to sleep and being able to get a two peice at popeyes is no. one. like 9/11, katrina and other disasters we are distracted right now and mostly doing a fair amount of tolerating.

if the economy swings around the radical whites may use this to bolster their numbers. our youth basically will still be trying to by wheels for their cars that cost 5000.00.

that the planned attack on the Black Kingdom has been in operative mode for some time now...!

Depending upon the level of detection -- racism backed by m/f Yt supremacy is at work 24/7.

Ase'

we all know that...the klan, aryans, white nights, white power advocates preach race war like you say 24/7....

why do you think they have not made a concerted move? why hasn't the clarion call been heeded?

some of the many reasons those groups haven't made a move

1) the american racists cannot organise nor compromise (i.e. some hate many blacks others many jews others hate everyone that cannot prove purely white heritage overa number of generations.

2) they aren't politically savy in the way that many european extremists are..

European elections 2009: extremists make gains across Europe at the expense of the Left - Telegraph

3) the other waveringwhites those few/many that actually hate us do want to be compared to the nazis of the second world war and therefore traitors.

but the biggest is that we have assemilated deep into the multi facets of this nations workings. which is the same thing that fuels their hate. kind of a two edge sword.

no i think the biggest is that race is becoming less and less a defining characteristic. When it comes to politics people are always careful to still make it seem like race matters but i think that in their hearts most people could care less. The economy is falling apart, public schools are bad, shits going down in every part of the world...theres too much going on for most people to take the time to hate Black/White/Arab/Asian people. The whole thing with the BNP winning those elections had nothing to do with people hating someone of a different race. It was about mass immigration and the loss of jobs for the people who were already living there. If people could immigrate and not upset the job structure then they wouldn't have gotten those votes but people are angry and voting BNP is their way of saying they want someone to listen even if it means they have to turn to this group of nutbags. In most cases such conditions are breeding grounds for racism but like i said people don't have the time. Its hard for white people to say they hate black people when the majority of there youth listen to black music and try to imitate perceived black culture.

Again i think this topic is stupid. I hate seeing black people with these ideas running through their heads. Its so passe. Im not saying we live in paradise but you can look around and see that things are not the same as they were before, we can stop looking over our shoulders every second at least for now when theres nothing to look back at.....

jumping at shadows...

Racism is like a bad sore.. it can bruck out anytime.

What would it take for Euroepans to turn on us wholesale in this country? The right media material for 6-12 months would do it. Look at Germany.. the majority of soldiers killing Jews in concentration camps by day/ and hunting them in the woods for sport at the weekend were not Nazis or organised extremists. They were mostly whipped up by the media over a few years in a time when media coverage wasnt as widespread as it is today. Given the right social and economic conditions anything can happen.

Europes history of genocide against perceived non Europeans within Europe is only 60 years ago. A blink of an eye in human history. Apart from the numerous government programs designed to kill Africans in large numbers in the USA within the last 30-40 years. But keeping the topic to over here it can happen very easily. A perceived severe lack of resources in any country blamed on immigrants can result in genocide if the media nuture it enough.

ditto.......

unless that are wanting to eat you bredda they ain't comming outside. the extremist will but they are gonna get so tangled up and if people shoot back many of them will give in. the dung they they are taught in the emcampments are speculations that no one will fight back and that they will have carte blanc in slaughter...

certainly if the news media were to put it out that blacks are running rampant all over the uk killing wyts there will be a move...

most people can not stand the reality of bullets flying and chopping off heads....

...i never believe in absolutes, this includes the absolute that it ( wholesale genocide ) could never happen again/ or to us.....i agree with you that it's, now ,today , more than 90% unlikey that we would ever see a modern day black genocide, atleast in britain some parts of western europe nor america....but in the back of my mind i remember the the relative harmony of the two dominate ethnic groups of Rwanda and then the genocide, i remember the muslims and the christians of bosnia, and then the genocide, and i also remember watching on my tv screen quite recently seeing over a hundred romani gypsies being chased out of their homes in northern ireland by a mob.

the type of bad economic condition that ususally precipitates societal interethnic violence was averted by brave leaders ( economic stimulus etcc... ) but there is always the next economic slump.... atleast 50% of my close friends and even extended family are from other ethnicities but at the end of the day iam still a MINORITY...

Genocide is:


any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II






"In both Australia and the UK, governments have traditionally used the over-representation of ethnic minorities in the criminal justice system as a means of rationalising the high incidence of Aboriginal/black deaths in custody. This line of rationalisation was reflected, for example, in the 1998 Home Office study on deaths in custody in the UK. By contrast, the Royal Commission in Australia not only concluded that Aboriginal people are more likely to die in custody because they are over-represented in custody, but went on from this to link such over-representation to the disadvantaged and unequal position in which Aboriginal people find themselves in the society—socially, economically and culturally. In the UK, there has never been such official recognition of the need to reduce the incidence of black arrests and imprisonment as a means to addressing the issue of black deaths in custody. "

Joint Committee On Human Rights - Written Evidence


"In 2007 alone black and minority ethnic deaths made up 25 per cent of self-inflicted deaths, and 19 per cent of all deaths in prison. INQUEST has been involved in supporting the families in a high number of cases of black deaths in custody such as the restraint-related deaths of Roger Sylvester, Rocky Bennett and more recently Sean Rigg."

"Inquest say that black deaths in custody must be seen in the context of the disproportionate overuse of prison for black people, the plight of immigration detainees, the treatment they receive and the overuse of control and restraint techniques and segregation."


Black Mental Health UK - Godfrey Moyo inquest highlights the growing numbers of black deaths in custody



Unemployment rates of men [2007] by ethnic group: Black Caribbean - 14%, Black African - 13%, White British - 4%

Statistics by topic - Ministry of Justice



"Offences committed by Black young offenders were more likely to receive a custodial sentence when compared to offences committed by the other ethnic groups."

"For British Nationals [in 2008], the proportion of Black prisoners relative to the population was 6.8 per 1,000 population compared to 1.3 per 1,000 for White persons."

The Terrorism Act 2000 provides further powers to carry out stop and searches. Section 44 (1) and (2) of the Act allows officers, when given authorisation:

To stop and search vehicles, people in vehicles and pedestrians for articles that could be used for terrorism whether or not there are grounds for suspecting that such articles are present.

"A total of 117,278 searches of people were made under section 44 (1) and 44 (2) of the Terrorism Act 2000 in 2007/08 compared with 37,197 in 2006/07 and represents an increase of 215% (Table 4.6). Just under a fifth (19%) of police force areas did not record any use of this power in 2007/08. Searches increased for all ethnic groups but the biggest rise was for Black people (322%), followed by those in the Asian group (277%), those in the Other category (262%), and lastly White people (185%)."

http://www.justice.gov.uk/stats-race...08-revised.pdf

it would have to be a spontaneous act that snowballed. but the question then would be what would the 100s of thousands black police and military personnel do that would make the success possible.....

would they just sit and watch their monitors taking a glance around once and a while smiling at the whites who entered the room, sit their listening for the doors to be locked?

thanks bf
those things happen daily...but the questioner on this thread probably meant a spontaneous event that just set them over the edge. it would have to be a thoughtless act...

Peace Meknow,

Mass killings of peoples have often occurred after an initial pre-conditioning of the society and it's institutions - making it then possible for horrific madness previously inconceivable, to be taken by the state or some other powerful body. Genocide then is an historical process.

The UN define genocide as:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.



If someone were to start killing the young people of a group but then had a change of heart, what would be the difference, if instead of deciding to kill the youth, it was decided to destroy the family structures of those youth and imprison their fathers en mass? Wouldn't that group's ability to thrive and develop be seriously diminished?

This is where the definition of genocide is coming from. Europeans should know! Who, over the last 500 years have annihilated ethnic groups and cultures like them??

Genocide has never stopped in europe; Hitler was only 70 years and his country was a modern nation state. The killing of people of supposed non slavic blood in the 1990's reminds us of a racist reality. Africans have routinely died in police custody in the UK with only a small measure of protest from the African mass here. The institutional racist nature of the UK has helped create Africans more concerned about themselves in some multicultural ideal where racial inequality is accepted and the societal norm.

Given the centuries of racist propaganda that justifies racism and vilifies Africans who totally reject european culture and it's historical life-draining relationship to Africa and its people, anywhere in the west today, where Africans reside can become mass "Black" graves or places where Africans simply go missing.

The political justifications for racist practice using immigration, crime and the supposed superiority of European culture over the rest of the world, simply condition the masses of people (including Africans) that the status-quo as it is, is correct and should be supported.

The UK has never developed it's African community. The fact that we have been here in large numbers for centuries, notwithstanding. Our numbers here dwindle eventually - where no people seek to destroy themselves unless something has gone seriously wrong with their minds or the society they live in, is killing them.

I think I feel you here BF...

by these standards and not wyts running amok in the streets burning and looting methinks the type you display is easiest to defeat.

three elements....

1. a willingness of the knowledgable to educate the masses

2. putting it in action

3. and willingness to stick to it in the face of being derided by our youth as well as seeing the majority of our people sitting on the porch laughing at the efforts of the knowledable and willing who are executing the action to stop the genocide...

Indeed Brother!