Philosophy forum? - Page 2

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#26 (**permalink**))

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I agree. Which is why I said only if members WILL use it. Members need to be proactive in these forums, it isnt for the mods to always (if at all) ''set tasks'' if you like.

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K is it possivble to create a mini forum within a forum? i.e placing the philosophy within the religion/spirituality, but still having it's own little space? confused3

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I said as well that we need to make sure it doesn'tbleed into Religion & Spirituality. My only objection if the 2 forums were embedded, that the religion/spirituality forum would actually be inside the philosophy forum, and not the other way around. Religion and spirituality are types or subsets of philosophy; philosophy is not a type of religion or spirituality.

MyThoughts · (#27 (**permalink**))

Thoth B3 wrote:

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I said as well that we need to make sure it doesn'tbleed into Religion & Spirituality. My only objection if the 2 forums were embedded, that the religion/spirituality forum would actually be inside the philosophy forum, and not the other way around. Religion and spirituality are types or subsets of philosophy; philosophy is not a type of religion or spirituality.

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Co-sign above.

However philosophy overlaps into the village square, news and politics section, the black roots section, the what it means to be black forumand religion/spirituality.

Even though I still think it should have it's own space.

I think the space should be used to evaluate, discuss and debate over ideas. Where arguments should be discussed heuristically.

Le Moor · (#28 (**permalink**))

Too many forums may spoil the broth.

Why not Include Philosophy at the expense of 'Creative Writing'

Sorry @Athaba, i know how much you love the CW forum, but no-one uses it. If Philospohy flopsthat will be 2 dead-pan forums.

Kibibi · (#29 (**permalink**))

Thoth B3 wrote:

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I said as well that we need to make sure it doesn'tbleed into Religion & Spirituality. My only objection if the 2 forums were embedded, that the religion/spirituality forum would actually be inside the philosophy forum, and not the other way around. Religion and spirituality are types or subsets of philosophy; philosophy is not a type of religion or spirituality.

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I am aware of that (what Iunderlined). I was going by what we already have in place i.e the Religion/Spirituality thread. Stop being pedantic chuuups-o.

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Kunjufu · (#30 (**permalink**))

BlackBeauty wrote:

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CashMoney wrote:

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The idea is fine, but some village culling is needed. This place is clearly saturated with Villages as Liberian Girl pointed out.

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I agree. Which is why I said only if members WILL use it. Members need to be active in these forums, it isnt for the mods to always (if at all) ''set tasks'' if you like.

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K is it possivble to create a mini forum within a forum? i.e placing the philosophy within the religion/spirituality, but still having it's own little space? confused3

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Short answer is I don't know..but I'll look into it tomorrow and get back to you..ok..

Le moor: the Creative writing Forum stays...It stalled because of the OCTOBER incident..it wil come aghain soon I hope..

Saida.M · (#31 (**permalink**))

Le Moor wrote:

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Too many forums may spoil the broth.

Why not Include Philosophy at the expense of 'Creative Writing'

Sorry @Athaba, i know how much you love the CW forum, but no-one uses it. If Philospohy flopsthat will be 2 dead-pan forums.

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hey hey hey - the creative forumonly came aboutbecause other people said they wanted it -notJUST because of me.

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blktypeAnyway it's being 'used' at the moment.

LadyDay · (#32 (**permalink**))

couldnt the philosphy forum fit in with the education forum or creative forum

is it really needed as it crosses over so many areas

zaghawa · (#33 (**permalink**))

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Mezmerized wrote:

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Just added my vote inniceone.gif..if there was ever a time i enjoyed school, it was when i was studying Philosophy for my A levels, i absolutely loved it!banana.gif

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When I was in school, I must say that I typically hated Philosophy class. They are usually based on European philosophy and will tell you that philosophy began about 500 BCE with the Greeks. I got in an argument with my philosophy professor about that, where I argued that the Black civilizations of Sumer, Indus Valley, original Chinese Dynasties, Olmecs, ancient Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, and of course Egypt had religion (which is a subset of philosophy) therefore had a philosophy hundreds and thousands of years before the Greeks. He basically told me that the Egyptians and everyone else I named didn't "really know what they were doing" until the Indo-European caught up with the rest of the world. We went back and forth for a good 5 or 10 minutes, but then I decided to just shut up because I couldn't win anyhow. I needed the class to graduate and was not about to let this ignorant educated fool take that from me.

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Anyhow, I would hope that we would explore more African philosophies, because if you buymost philosophy books you will get the white perspective.

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Who are the african philosphers ? I haveread plato, descarte, schopenhaur,nietzcshe, confucious, suntzu,but i have never read the work of an african philosopher.

Peacemaker · (#34 (**permalink**))

zaghawa wrote:

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Who are the african philosphers ? I haveread plato, descarte, schopenhaur,nietzcshe, confucious, suntzu,but i have never read the work of an african philosopher.

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The philosophers that pre-date Chritianity and Islam in Africa are hard to track down.

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Ptah-Hotep being one of them and perhaps the conception of ma'at as well.

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Other than that the best bet is finding and picking out the various African proverbs, which for the most part were passed on orally and have a deeper meaning that what'sinitially ondisplay, but not altogether cryptic.

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The main differences between western philosophy and African philosophy are that the western teachings tend to be in the form of essays. i.e they tell you how to act, thinkand behave. Whereas the African ones tend to be short, and generally should encourage a person to think about things for themselves. If not they tend to come in the form of stories.

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Remember that ALL western philosophers are promoted for a reason, it's why they stand the test of time. In my eyes a real philosopher shouldn't be famous, those who you mentioned had fame when alive also, they didn't exactly dislike the attention either.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#35 (**permalink**))

zaghawa wrote:

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Who are the african philosphers ? I haveread plato, descarte, schopenhaur,nietzcshe, confucious, suntzu,but i have never read the work of an african philosopher.

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There are plenty of writings from ancient Zimbabwe, the first dynasties of China, Indus Valley (ancient India), Sumeria (before destroyed by Whites and Semites), Ethiopia has a very long and rather inspiring record, and then of course there is Kemet/Nubia/Kush when considering ancient civilizations. With a philosophy forum, it would be my research goal to try to connect many of these old writings with some of the African proverbs that were passed on orally.

Kunjufu · (#36 (**permalink**))

It appears that the required numbers required to get this forum off the groun has been met, so I will start this new forum..once the folloeing has been decided:

The name of new Forum.
Brief synopisis of what the forum will be about..
Any special condition if any you would like attached to said forum.

I'm leaving all of the above to the membership to decide..I will then consult with the Moderation team on which is the most appropriate ok..

I'll set the deadline at Monday for completion for the above and all being well the new forum should be in place by the end of the day Monday..

Any problems or queries please say now!!! either on this thread or via PM to any MOd ok..

Do not wait until the forum is in place to air your view thanks..