[Femergy]

Thoth B3 wrote:

I think you guys already know I am going to come with Kemetic or Nile Valley inspired names for the proposed Philosophy Forum.Â* I find it appropriate, considering Kemet was considered the "breadbasket of the world" where European and West Asian philosophies had roots in African cultures before the Indo-European and Semitic climate changes.Â* Anyhow, here are my proposed names for the Philosophy Forum:

-Amenhotep's Philosophy Corner: He was a wise Pharaoh during the 18th Dynasty that many archaeologists believe is probably the person the Biblical King Solomon was modelled after.Â* If we disect the name, Amenhotep could mean "The Divine Hidden Peace."Â* Philosophy is often aimed at finding, conceptualizing, or determining that which seems to be hidden so that we may have peace with ourselves.Â* In some modes of African Spirituality, some may call this a divine accomplishment.

Akenaten

-Tehuti's Philosophy Corner: "There is a clear concept of Thoth [Tehuti] as a conciliator among the deities because, as one text puts it, the 'peace of the [ntrw] gods' is in him.Â* The skill of his words brings order to warring factions in Egypt itself.Â* However as early as his appearance in the Pyramid Texts there are hints that Thoth would be merciless to enemies of truth, decapitating them and cutting out their hearts...Thoth as 'lord of the sacred words' gave to the Egyptians the knowledge of how to write by picture symbols, hence hieroglyphs could always possess a magical force.Â* Scribes regarded themselves as 'followers of Thoth'.Â* There were a privileged professional class.." pg. 215 - A Dictionary of Egyptian Gods and Goddesses by George Hart



-Room for 'Coming Forth By Light'



-Philosopher's Corner

A philosophy forum really would encompass many different things.Â* It could very well be topics that have been posted in the "Village Square", "News and Politics" (for political philosophies), "Religion & Spirituality", and especially "What Black Means to you".Â* Since we already have the religion forum, either embed it into the new philosophy forum or put stipulations on the new forum where it cannot have religious or spiritual topics besides classicalÂ*things like a proof for the existence of God.Â* I think that the content of the forum is largely going to be what people here deem as philosophy.Â* I know that there are certain topics in the other forums I definitely would put into a philosophy forum.

[Shemsi en Tehuti]

Femergy wrote:

Thoth B3 wrote:

[Femergy]

@Thoth B3Interesting that you have that belief about Akenaten.Â* Â*I understand that he was the first to have presetned the idea of the 'one God' and his refusal to continue with the Amun religion.Â* Do you believe this is what caused the up roar and are you of the view that his monolithic faith came about well before the Jews Christians and Islam.Â* Jesus was probably just as much a tyrrant!!PeaceFem'

[Shemsi en Tehuti]

Femergy wrote:

@Thoth B3Interesting that you have that belief about Akenaten. I understand that he was the first to have presetned the idea of the 'one God' and his refusal to continue with the Amun religion. Do you believe this is what caused the up roar and are you of the view that his monolithic faith came about well before the Jews Christians and Islam. Jesus was probably just as much a tyrrant!!PeaceFem'

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Please don't mistake my tone for taking shots at you, but I would encourage you to read unbiased (or at least diverse) archaeological literature on Akhenaten and the Amarna era. I find it quite disrespectful when Whites, Arabs, and especially Africans claim that Akhenaten introduced the concept of "one God" to Egypt. Egypt and mostly all Africans already knew there was one God, but Whites and Arabs simply could not understand that (or didn't want to). They falsely interpreted the word ntrw as "gods", where ntrw means "the divine aspects of the One Supreme Being (God) joined in all of its members". The Egyptians believed that there could be no name for the entity we now acknowledge as "God", for it is limiting in itself. God was always denoted as "The One Supreme Being joined in all its members (divine aspects)".

If you look at the excavations of Amarna, Akhenaten had to rule with his army as presented in the tombs of many of the nobles...the first of any Pharaoh which reminds me of tyrant dictators today in the Middle East and Africa. He forcefully closed all the temples ofother ntrw except his favorite ntr, the Aten. Further examination of Amarna archaeology tells us that when he was succeeded on the throne by his son TwtAnkhAmen (King Tut), Tut had to carry the name TwtAnkh-Aten until he was of legal age to change his name and mandate the reopening of the other ntrw temples. This is because Akhenaten was still alive after leaving the throne, but the Aten still ruled (in Kemetic custom) until the succeeding pharaoh (who was the highest priest) could mandate the change.

As for your other concern, the Jewish and Christian religions are simply borrowed/*******ized precepts of Kemetic spirituality. Islam then tried to steal the thunder of Christians and Jews so I often throw them into the same bucket as well.

[Femergy]

@Thoth ....Â* Yes I understand the conept of the Ntrw and Akenaten must have sought to undermine the priests and political equilibrium when he sought to revolutionise the religious focus.Â* Do you see any allignment here with what Jesus came to do and the impact that had on the pharisees and saducees?Â* Do you know how long after Nefertiti reigned and do you know whether they had anything to do with Tut-Ankh-Amun's assassination? Â* Having been to the temples at Karnak and Luxor, much seems to have been invested in the worship of the various Ntrw.Â* Akenaten must have caused uproar!!Â* I am still not sure about the tyrant lable......PeaceÂ* Fem.Â*

[Shemsi en Tehuti]

Femergy wrote:

@Thoth .... Yes I understand the conept of the Ntrw and Akenaten must have sought to undermine the priests and political equilibrium when he sought to revolutionise the religious focus. Do you see any allignment here with what Jesus came to do and the impact that had on the pharisees and saducees?

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No, because Jesus' mission wasneverto over-throw the Pharisees and Sadducess (if he ever existed). He believed he was the Messiah, which was totally different. I have other thoughts about this, but I have to ask whether you are familiar with the contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls, Qumran Texts, and the authors who were the 3rd Jewish sect called the Essenes(which John the Baptist, and most likely Jesus was a part of)?

Femergy wrote:

Do you know how long after Nefertiti reigned and do you know whether they had anything to do with Tut-Ankh-Amun's assassination?

Having been to the temples at Karnak and Luxor, much seems to have been invested in the worship of the various Ntrw. Akenaten must have caused uproar!! I am still not sure about the tyrant lable......Peace Fem.

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Anyone who has to rule their country by the brute of their army is a tyrant in my book, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Fine1952]

niceone.gif-- superb idea.

Of course you don't want to "intentionally" scare anyone off. However, people,must know and understand thatreligion divides, period. The strong research-investigate-evolve the weak attack-deny-run and hide.