Does anybody know about Five Percenters? So many rappers claim to be followers ie Brand Nubian, Wu-tand Clan, Rakim etc

What do people think about this concept of the 'Aziatic Black man is god' and the 'Black women are Earths'?

Is it good to view ourselves in this way or is having a god complex a bad idea for Africans?

The Asiatic bit always pissed me off. They're an offshoot from the NOI...

Listen to Papa Wu at the beginning of wuforever or at the end of ghosts' all i got is you. That more or less sums up their beliefs. They have no organised creed to speak of beyond that they themselves are Gods so in saying... it's not a religion.

you know my patience for foolishness and superstition... religion in general...

numerology and astrology mixed with *******ised NOI stuff and weed comes out as pure fart

Some five percenters definitly play on your words but ofcourse that depends on the individual, some can take things on face value for the sake of the conversation. Just like any other group, there perceptions vary but they have their core information that is basically scientific facts and NOI question and answers. They also have different kinds of people in the nation of gods and earths so they are lots of them that don't live by what they teach and do negative things but thats really no different then any other religion.

I was reading into it last night as it happens. I like them personally, definatly a good thing they put symbolism into hip hop to reach the youth encouraging them to ask questions where other preachers would have them sitting crossed legged head bowed for European teachers and pictures of Jesus.

The 85% are the ignorant masses, the non belivers.

The 10% are the leeches that keep those in ignorance ignorant, including europeans, rappers etc etc.

The 5% are those who don't beliiiive in the teachings of the10% percent and seek to teach the truth and to encourage the youth in a posotive way having unlocked the truth and found their true path.

They've been around for ages and made a MEGA mark on the music scene, sparking new slang words etc... I posted about US slang in the other room before I found out that its the 5%ers that've been putting it out.

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One of the side effects of this God complex is that many 5%ers justify selling crack and murdering Black people in their OWN community because they are Gods and can do whatever they please.

Personally I see it as a cult that prays on a people hungry to belong to something.

When a person stands for nothing, they fall for anything.

If they sell crack then they're the 85% or the 10% the ignorant leaders who abuse their position of authority to make money. The 5% are the ''Gods'' who try and teach the youths rather than poision them. Wu-Tang mix it up in ignorant 'ish to reach out and get the message across. Others just drop gems in lyrics and make good music. Like Pete Rock, Guruetc...

''The alpha omega... The Arm Leg Leg a' Arm Head'' = The Alpha Omega.. the A.L.L.A.H

Also TuPacs THUG LIFE = The - Hate - You - Gave - Little - Infants - F**ks - Everyone = T.H.U.G L.I.F.E. When asked what it means, Tupac; ''Thats just some 'ish you can't f**k wit''

Mos Def cusses them inone of his tunes but the 5% Nation are massive, can't cuss peoplethat are out to do good. Its like slating rap musicand then slating the good rapperswhen they try and reach out... WTF do people want exactly?

Its common for Muslems to form their own version of the quran to suit themselves its whythe religion spreads so fast. This is just another version... not that I belive inwhat they teach but as said, it was that firein the Wu albums thatkept me listening as a kidso I don't cuss them, also Nas tunes as well.

Also note the album covers of some rappers... Busta and 36 Chambers. They put stuff in the art work. 36 Chambers is the WU group breakinga circle if you check it out, breaking the spell kinda thing. Others like Anarchy are obvious. Some were even talking about the WTC before it happened like in Jerus video, ''Mind spray'' and others.

The NWBNs also have artists like Bambatta and others that drop consiouss 'ish in their albums.

Not that I belive in their God theory and stuff but people should check things out before cussing... why would they call themselves that?... Maybe they're drawing from Jewish mysticism (= Egyptian mysticism) and putting it up in their tunes?

*Cue erie music*

Im Hotep,

The info on this thread is very interesting. Thanks to all who posted.

I tried listening to some Brand Nubian, etc and what I hear is nigganigganigganigga bust a cap in a nigga nigga nigga nigga I'M GOD nigga nigga STAY STRAPPED SHOOT A NIGGA. Same for most of these 5 percenter rappers. It doesn't help us if we have the blind leading the blind.

In terms of positive rap, listen to Black Market Militia. Hell Razah and 4th Disciple break it down on that CD.

Where can I find their stuff?

Can't really say too much for some of the artists but those ones sound like the 10% or the 85 as mentioned. Its the same with Nas, he still goes on about gangster this and gangster that but they're speaking about a lifestyle that some are forced to live... theres more to it than them waving guns and stuff and they put their teachings into their lyrics and other tunes to reach out. Crime is a result of poverty, people gotta remember that and take the blame off of the people who can't see any other way of getting out of their situation than to rob and steal. Some are trapped in that lifestyle.

Not that I'm sticking up for it,its just the way it is sometimes.

In Egyptian teachings you have to be able to relate to communicate andso be able to teachthe people. No point in being all nice and fluffy when the people aren't in a nice and fluffy surrounding. Rather than lend an ear to the negative stuff listen out for the teachings they put in their lyrics or the good tunes they put in their albums next to the negative stuff.

Galactic ignorance. lol.