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I recently read this book by Robert Morkot and I am wondering if anyone else has. This book is mostly Eurocentric and racist lies. Its title is The Black Pharaohs and the book is about the 25th Dynasty only, implying that those were the only Black Pharaohs that ever ruled in Kemet.
Morkot blatantly states that Nefertiti, Queen Tiye, and King Tut were not Black and clearly identifies the Egyptians/Kemites themselves as a non-Afrikan race. Yet this piece of crap book is always posted on so-called Afrocentric websites and is pushed off on us as legitimate scholarship. Don't waste your money on this garbage.
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Yup... Wrote a letter complaining to UKTV History about it. They had a program titled --500 years of black pharoes- going into how egypt was once ruled by their neighbours who couldn't keep up the empire or some BS. I wrote to them saying that us African people laugh at their attempts to pervert history asking why they neverhave any historical programs about Ancient Africa even though they're happy to show programs about how the oldest bones are found on the continent.
They changed the title to -Black Pharoes- not sure if it was my letter that did it but I think the bit about how we laugh at them must have rattled them a bit.
Obvious truth is the mixing of Egypt marked its downfall so they reverse it.
I need to read up on Ancient Egypt from an African perspective, can you reccomend a good book? Looking for one with pictures and all that so I can put names to faces where I can.
Any reccomendations?
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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Yup... Wrote a letter complaining to UKTV History about it. They had a program titled --500 years of black pharoes- going into how egypt was once ruled by their neighbours who couldn't keep up the empire or some BS. I wrote to them saying that us African people laugh at their attempts to pervert history asking why they neverhave any historical programs about Ancient Africa even though they're happy to show programs about how the oldest bones are found on the continent.
They changed the title to -Black Pharoes- not sure if it was my letter that did it but I think the bit about how we laugh at them must have rattled them a bit.
Obvious truth is the mixing of Egypt marked its downfall so they reverse it.
I need to read up on Ancient Egypt from an African perspective, can you reccomend a good book? Looking for one with pictures and all that so I can put names to faces where I can.
Any reccomendations?
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It depends on what about Ancient Egypt you want to know. The Husia by Karenga is a good collection of some of the wisdom literature.
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04-07-06, 04:23 AM
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Im Hotep
I recently read this book by Robert Morkot and I am wondering if anyone else has. This book is mostly Eurocentric and racist lies. Its title is The Black Pharaohs and the book is about the 25th Dynasty only, implying that those were the only Black Pharaohs that ever ruled in Kemet.
Morkot blatantly states that Nefertiti, Queen Tiye, and King Tut were not Black and clearly identifies the Egyptians/Kemites themselves as a non-Afrikan race. Yet this piece of crap book is always posted on so-called Afrocentric websites and is pushed off on us as legitimate scholarship. Don't waste your money on this garbage.
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You know one thing I hate is how Europeans try to state that Egyptians did not identify themselves as Africans because they drew Nubians darker than themselves. Off course they drew Nubians darker than themselves. If Nubians were like present day southern Sudanese blue-blacks, then it doesn't take a genuis to see that a black person who is not blue-black is going todrawhimself lighterthan a Nubian. Does it mean that they are actually not from the same race? No. There are a lot of diverse skin colours amongst Africans. The ancient Egyptians could have possibly been the same skin colour as the Bushmen (San)but I don't see anyone denying the Africanness of the San.
And one thing they also fail to mention is that these same Egyptians also drew themselves as distinct from Arabs and Southern Europeans. They gave these people a whitish skin colourwhile drawingthemselves as red and sometimes dark brown. Now there are plenty of dark brown and red skinnedAfricans but we have yet to see one fully white or Arab person with red or dark brown skin, so really where is their argument?
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04-07-06, 03:54 PM
^ They'll do anything to deny us our history and themselves at the same time. If Egypt was Arab they'd rebuild it but they wouldn't dare touch it. I'd love to see it rebuilt one day.
It depends on what about Ancient Egypt you want to know. The Husia by Karenga is a good collection of some of the wisdom literature.
General history and stories about the pharoes with the chart of the rulers and what not...and pictures of the them as well. I've been looking but most books are written from a BF perspective and I don't appreciate their stance on anything to do with Africa. Noticed the other day that I've never really read up on Ancient Egypt just watched TV programs, its something I just haven't thought about and I need to get to grips with it.
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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05-07-06, 03:11 PM
@HH said "Morkot blatantly states that Nefertiti, Queen Tiye, and King Tut were not Black and clearly identifies the Egyptians/Kemites themselves as a non-Afrikan race. Yet this piece of crap book is always posted on so-called Afrocentric websites and is pushed off on us as legitimate scholarship. Don't waste your money on this garbage.
Yep that is how the system works. Get some white boy to produce crap, hype them and get them on the air or media and try to make them an authority while making them money, and they don't care who they are just to make sure one of our better qualified people don't get heard. They commission these books very often simply to counter or to make sure another more serious black book and author does not get heard.
Why give them the money and deprive yourself of proper information...We are old enough as a people and been around long enough to see this sh*t in our sleep...Of course Kemit was not a black civilisation which is why the word means Land of the Blacks..They have never seen the images inside those temples highlighting the different races and the dominance of the African right in front of their faces...
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Land of the Blacks..
Ahhh... apparently thats a term for the soil that the nile produces, nothing to do with black people.
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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05-07-06, 07:24 PM
@RL actually correct if you take Chancellor William's explanation. But JH Clarke who lived much longer and wrote much more work on the issue says Kemit also refer our colour. Who is the ancient Kemetic diety I think it is Khunun who made human kind from soil or clay on the potter's wheel. That is where it is from, and just a useless bit of info the god in the Jewish Torahalso comes from Kunun who made man from clay. But our clay as the soil was black as are we....
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I only hope that you (and your supporters)willattract the financial suppoort needed as somany of ourpositive African progress groups havefound it (in the past) sodifficult to attract. It is quite obvious to much of our community that as the yearshave gone by ithas becomemuch more difficult to highlight theconnection between the caribbean and the UK black (Afrcan)community in respect to ourtrue herritage. I only hope that the Managment and Moderators of this board will give you support that you need in order to generate theinterest neededto supportyour perspective.blkclap
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^ Huh? Can someone please fill me in? I'd like to know more if possible.
That is where it is from, and just a useless bit of info the god in the Jewish Torahalso comes from Kunun who made man from clay.....
Again, please share!
I've seen the heiroglyph with them making man on a pottery wheel which shows the use of mechanics as well as the more intresting creation of man but I'm not too well versed in Ancient Egypt.
Whats the story of Kunun and how does it relate to the Jewish?
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06-07-06, 02:46 PM
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Im Hotep
I recently read this book by Robert Morkot and I am wondering if anyone else has. This book is mostly Eurocentric and racist lies. Its title is The Black Pharaohs and the book is about the 25th Dynasty only, implying that those were the only Black Pharaohs that ever ruled in Kemet.
Morkot blatantly states that Nefertiti, Queen Tiye, and King Tut were not Black and clearly identifies the Egyptians/Kemites themselves as a non-Afrikan race. Yet this piece of crap book is always posted on so-called Afrocentric websites and is pushed off on us as legitimate scholarship. Don't waste your money on this garbage.
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The first place I saw this book was in a Black Muslim book store. I never even picked up the book because I don't waste my time on something denoting the obvious. The "Black Pharoahs"? All the Pharaohs were Black Africans except for the short periods of being occupied byforeignIndo-Europeans and Asiatics (Hyksos, Greeks, Libyans, Persians, etc.).
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All the Pharaohs were Black Africans except for the short periods of being occupied byforeignIndo-Europeans and Asiatics (Hyksos, Greeks, Libyans, Persians, etc.).
Can you reccomend any good books on the general history of Egypt? Preferably with pictures?
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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