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[align=left]The tree of life is found in African folklore and is inscribed into the walls of the pyramids, its debateable weather the Hebrews brought it to Egypt or Visa Versa,mostwould have it that the Hebrewsbrought it to Egypt although this would clash with their story of being enslaved in Egypt.It has beenrelated to the Tarot cards and is used in psycology.The Tarot cards themselves are said to be from the same place, some say they are from Toth himself. [/align]



[align=left]Each sethriot is saidto relate to an emotionpeople travelling along the lines inbetween each one (another pic of that later). It also relates to the structure of DNA... or is made to relate to the stucture of DNA as well asthe Kulundiniin Eastern meditation... by meditating a person is said to hop from one sefriot (the bubbles) to another finally achiving them all or reaching Keter (The Crown)/Shekhinah (The Kingdom)to achive enlightenment. [/align]


[align=left]There are many difffrent understandings ofthe Kabbalah
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[align=left]Guessing the 11th sepriot is inbetween 'Keter' and 'Tiferet' Fine1952... I think its Daath... not sure what qualities it has, will have to get to it. If anyone hasmore info on the Kabbalah pleasedrop the knowledge, would be cool to hear what the Netu Meter (sp) says about it.[/align]




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1; The Crown = Keter[/align]
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[align=center]2; Wisdom = Hokhmah[/align]
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[align=center]3; Binah = Understanding[/align]
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[align=center]4;Hesed = Mercy
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[align=center]5;Din = Severity

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[align=center]6;Tiferet = Beauty[/align]

[align=center]7; Nezah = Victory[/align]

[align=center]8; Hod = Splendor[/align]

[align=center]9; Yesod = Foundation[/align]

[align=center]10; Shekhinah = Kingdom[/align]



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[align=left]Diffrent so called, Sefriot have a relation to chakra points in the body. Although as said, the Kabbalah has many diffrent applications and is a science within itself. Keter is reffered to in Jewish mystisism as being the, 'God head' the higher self that one seeks to be in communication with (Socrates) residing just above thehead.Unlike the Eastern understanding the energy is brought down the spine to 'Shekhinah/kingdom' (1straight down to10) which would then reside at the feet. The eastern faiths would have it that the energy is raised rather than brought down.[/align]
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[align=left]As Kulundini is;
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[align=left]''the raising of ones energy force through chakras to achive enlightenment.'' [/align]

[align=left]This is (in Buddhahic circles) inrelation to the 'Ten Paramitas' as, [/align]

[align=left]''the aspirations to gain sainthood and Buddhahood''. [/align]

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[align=center]1; Dana = Generocity[/align]


[align=center]2; Sila = Virtue
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[align=center]3; Nekkhamma = Renunciation (wtf?)
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[align=center]4; Pa~~a = Wisdom
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[align=center]5; Viriya = Effort
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[align=center]6; Khanti = Forbearance
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[align=center]7; Sacca = Truth
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[align=center]8;Adhittana = Determintation
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[align=center]9; Metta = Loving kindness
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[align=center]10; Upekkha= Equanimity
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[align=center]^Kabbalic relation to the Chakras[/align]



[align=left]A description of Sefriot in relation to the body and Chakras;[/align]



[align=left]The first Sefriot rerepresent the head, and, in the Zohar, the three cavities of the brain; the fourth and fifth, the arms; the sixth, the torso; the seventh and eighth , the legs; the ninth, the sexual organ; and the tenth refers to the all embracing totality of the image…
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[align=left]The man thus represented is called the Adam Kadmon (The Primordial Adam; or the First Adam). This image is the very image of G-d in which Adam was created. The Adam Kadmon, is in essence the same as the Middle Pillar of the G-dhead, since he brings both the masculine and feminine aspects of Eyn Sof into perfect balance. [/align]



[align=left]Jewish mystics attempt to activate these chakras by means of ritual which is said to be dangerous by some as the improper charging of certain chakras can lead to death by means ofa heart attack/shock to the systemand can even lead toinsanity as chakras can over load or be over laden with energy. When controlled a person can balance the energies to become enlightened. The same is said of raising the kulundini in Eastern circles. [/align]



[align=left]Note; The 'o' in God is left out in fear by some Jewish peoples.[/align]



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&RL a question not a challenge. Is it meditation which includes initiation which is used to move from one level of conciousness to another in Kabbalah or just meditation as they are not one and the same...

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I remember seeing these guys watching a television showing a picture of earth from space. They were chanting pointing at the screen trying to make the hole in the ozone layer go away.

Rather sweet of them I do so hope it worked

@ DM hey man come and distresss our spirtual reasoning with naysaying....

But on a serious tip you came to mind for real while I was abroad about your attitude to god which I remembered very well. Nah man we got to work on that...Cynic and an African one at that..Takes the biscuit. Repeat after me he who denies the existence of god and the powers at work is a heathen and ignoramus.....Not you though..

Peace...

By the way do you know there are Dogon and other West African mediums whose record of predictions have been scientifically studied revealling their frightening accuracy. In fact some Senegalse mediums committed suicide when they predicted wrong some critical events...Study by Dr Charles Finch...

Whole heap of people can claim they have knowledge and understanding of particular phenomon but like any science or discipline there are always a whole heap of people whose claims outreach their capacities by far.

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@Well I never. Bravo DM agree with every word you said. Thought I was going to get the cynics choice response. Whole heap of cowboys out there trying to take people for fool.

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RL...I had a view on the question I asked, but only courteousy that I asked first. You see language and the English language often causes far more problems than it resolves. The term meditation is often taken to mean a very narrow practice eg sitting in silent meditation or breathing practies. However, the term or concept of meditation when used in the spirtual literature, particularly that is rooted in Ancient Kemetic influenced schools of thought, such as the Kabbalah, which actually came from the Cannanites who were, if my recollection of Ra Un Nefer Amen were predominantly African who drewfrom Kemetic pratices.

Accordingly, if we look at the Kemetic concept of meditations, along with other such influenced people such asDravindian of India and the Toaists of Chinawe will see the concept of meditation is far more complex than breathing excercises and also involves initiations into specific techniques, internalising specific sacred and spirtual texts to uncover their fundamental meanings and the truth entailed. It may also entail changing specific aspects of your diet in order to change or improving the body's function and efficiency in order so it can assist the brain and nervous system and other key aspects of the anatomy to optimise and operate in such a way as to release its capacity or enter trance like states far more easily. Remember the body and mind and spirit are all intrinsically linked. It can even involve learning to meditate to master particular parts of the anatomy.

You mentioned elsewhere Kundalini energy which is one of the most powerful life force energies. Well that energy like the Chinese chi is stored and reproduced in the sexual organs amongst other places and learning to control and direct it can be a fundamental part of what is broadly callled meditation. For example I was talking to a very senior martial arts brother who has studied world wide and China and Japan particular. We were talking about meditation and moving to different levels and he agreed with me you cannot do it by yourself, as it involves a whole heap of complex knowledge that has to be taught at higher levels.

So meditation involves a whole heap.

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The most complex form of 'meditation' I've heard of is mediating toastral travel to diffrent realms.

It would be intresting to hear about dieting to aid mediation and master certain parts of the body in that way, it does make sence, complete sence...posted a topic about a young boy who managed to go six months without food or water. I think the Tibetans have really taken it to another level much more so than the Indians and other cultures although they can achive much the same the Tibetans pretty much kick ass when it comes to that stuff. Lord knows what they can do, not as though they tell people.

They say that the 'Buddah boy' was feeding off of particles in the air! Amazing.

Pretty much pissed off that my thread in here was deleted and swapped with this one. I was hoping to come back and add to it bit by bitand was going to go into howthe buddahist teachings fit into Kabbalic studies. F'in annoyingnow its messed up my flow and I've lost the states attached to thebranches. :X

Kundalini is- well, kundalini. I'll get to that in a moment...

As for your question FredB:

It really all depends on what is meant by the active term 'meditation'. In my own experience 'meditation' may involve a particular kind of experience which explains or communicates something in one way or other-It is difficult to illustrate this by offering any examples or relating personal experience that for someone else would be utterly meaningless. I never like to suggest to anyone how to go about getting things done for themselves, since that is ultimately a question of the establishment of a kind of relationship, one that takes some time to cultivate.

One example I could relate is that, for instanceI have a certain relationship with certain kinds ofevents. That 'relationship' is an expression of some function of the astral body in another plane-That it happens the way it does is not important, at least no more than is, say, walking or talking or blinking one's eyes. This is why we are constantly advised not to regard any phenomena encountered 'along the way' with our emotions or intellect, i.e. ego, and considerale effort is required to avoid that. This would be referred to as a 'break' in meditation.

I won't enter into a discussion about discipline here...

Kundalini. Ah, that 'Old Sleeping Serpent'...

The Ancient One; The Adversary; Satan; The temper; The Beast (7 heads 10 Horns-And we should've figured a long time ago 7 chakras and 10 numbers ); Cthulu; Tiamat; Otiqh; Thoth; Anima Mundi; Libido;Godzilla... call it what you want.

I have my own name for it. But until one has raised and successfully subdued it, I guess you just call it Kundalini.