Does EVERYTHING Happen For A Reason? - Page 2

Le Moor · (#26 (**permalink**))

DrunkMonkey wrote:

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Le Moor wrote:

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IMO, put simply

Your birth and your death is mapped out.

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Clarify, do you believe there is a appointed time for you to die

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Yes.

Unexpected Pleasure · (#27 (**permalink**))

I think we have mapped lives and death's, and that certain events in our lives were meant to happen and were fated to take place. I believe god babble's in our lives and directs us to certain paths, the small meaningless things like what clothes you may wear a certain day or how you should wear your hair i don't think aremanipulated and directed by god, but large scale events like 9/11 or 7/7 are part of a journey that we are unable to comprehend.

However the little things we do may affect or be part of our predicted and mapped out journey's, is the choice of clothes for an interview or style of hair for when you go out and for instance happen to attract a guy who you end dating pre determined or was it just coincidence?

I believe, to use an analogy, we are in on a journey that has many paths, and every so often there is a set of paths that come up and we have to decide for ourselves what path we take, whether it is A OR B, or whether it's A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H OR I.

Gmahogany · (#28 (**permalink**))

This is a fascinating topic and exchange, especially between FredB and DM aka Mr. Bah Humbug!!!

I don't see free will/choice vs destiny/fate as an either or, proposition. I also don't see intelligent design and evolution as either or propositions. I believe that evolution may be apart of intelligent design. People just get tripped up by the creation myths and taking them literally, rather than metaphorically/figuratively;the world was created in 7 days, etc.

I can perceive the mundaneness/randomness of life,but I can also perceive certain patterns/energies/forces. I've experienced what FredB talked about regarding working against certain forces and energies, as opposed to being in tune with them. When you're working against those energies everything will be a struggle, everything will come hard, if at all(no matter how much of your will u impose), but when u get in tune with that energy and go with the flow as it were, everything not only comes easy, but you couldn't make a wrong move if you tried. It's like being carried along by a current, as opposed to trying swim against it.

The most pertinent thing to come out of this thread for me,however, is finding out that FredB is a Scorpio. I must say that explains A LOT,lol.

HLF · (#29 (**permalink**))

I think everything has a reason behind it, but the average person lacks higher perspective and comprehension of it.

Jay Jay · (#30 (**permalink**))

I'm more of the thinking...the average person is aware of it, but pre conditioning denies it. For example a person may get an intuative urge to do something "out of charactor" but might refrain from doing so, because this is out of charactor, and being brought in a certain way ...."dont do this or dont do that"...can hamper such things. So in essence I think everybody knows it, but the vast majority denies it through no real fault of their own.

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But sometimes the higher powers are communicating to you that you need to take another course and once you do everything suddenly becomes easier because that is your path and one which is predetermine and those blows he took are simply important experiences which he must experience to increase his conciousness in order to learn and pass that on in the process of finding his path."

All I know from personal experience is, what is given is quickly taken away if you veer off a path, get back on the path to steady yourself and persevere with it, something else(a follow on) will come.

Omoshango · (#31 (**permalink**))

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Some say it's so.

Was our history pre-planned? Is it taking us somewhere?

What are your thoughts?

Is there a purpose or meaning to life?

I've been wondering the same thing. My conclusion?

Ihave no idea.

Does everything happen for a reason?

No.

But does it thenfollow that NOTHINGhappens for a reason?

Can we really know for sure?

To state emphatically that "there isno purpose or reason" is rather presumptuous, isn't it, considering that u can't prove that?

If it can't be demonstrated empirically, then it's not science or logic, only a belief, no different from the belief that there IS reason and purpose to life.

DM, if we're all just the result of our parent's wild nights of sex, then what about the very first humans? Did they just "happen" too?

Or do u not believe that all humans descended from two people, a man and a woman?

If u suscribe to Darwin's theory, u probably don't believe that.

As to whether our history was pre-planned and is it taking us somewhere, can we see evidence of Divine intervention in our history?

The series of events in the 1850s beginning with the Dred Scott Decision throughJohn Brown's Harper Ferry raid to the 1860 election of the Anti-slaverycandidate Abraham Lincoln, to what followed next?

Was thatDivine intervention on our behalf? Or was it "coincidence?"

A hundred years later in 1960, Africans in America were in crisis again. Lincoln had died before his reconstruction plan could be implemented. His successor Johnson had virtually put us back in chains.

Then came John F. Kennedy, another leader sympathetic to our plight.

But the strangest thing is the amazing number of "coincidences" that parallel the Lincoln and Kennedy administrations. Google "Lincoln-Kennedy parallels."

Coincidence? Or Divine intervention?

If it was Divine intervention, obviously that happened because some overall purpose was threatened, not so?

And what is "coincidence?"

Some electro-magnetic or gravitational force? Exactly what is coincidence?

I think "free will" and predestination coexist, and are so entertwined that we really don't know when events are predestined or simply the physical laws of cause and effect.

Like Einstein said when asked if there was a God, we just don't know.

Far more intelligent than an emphatic "there is no God or no purpose."

Hrunopi · (#32 (**permalink**))

Does everything happen for a reason?

Well what ISthe reason anything happens?

I guess because things CAN happen, so they do...

One Zero Seven · (#33 (**permalink**))

Salaam (Peace) to all...

"Does EVERYTHING happen for a reason?"

Well, if the Law of Cause and Effect is real, then I would say "yes".

The fact that one is unable to identify or confront the Cause or "reason" does not negate the reason, itself.

Yes, everything happens for a reason.

RM

Saida.M · (#34 (**permalink**))

bluehoney · (#35 (**permalink**))

i don't know if everything happens for a reason...but i do know that there is a lesson in everything that happens...

shesheshe · (#36 (**permalink**))

Sometimes I think it does. Yesterday I went for my driving test but forgot my theory test certificate. There was a strike and my test was cancelled and I will be reimbersed the test fee and any out of pocket expenses. I might not have been able to do the test without the certificate so i'm lucky that this happened!

One Zero Seven · (#37 (**permalink**))

Peace to all...

If I am part of the Universe in which I exist,
And I experience a sense of Purpose,
Then that which I am a part of must also have a Purpose.

For I am but a reflection of That Which created Me.

Yes, everything happens for a reason. However, we may not always understand the reason for something that happens.

My two.

RM

meknow · (#38 (**permalink**))

Creation is headed some place. We are along for the ride. There is knowledge of the True nature of Creation and the Creator and the Will of the Creator for the Creatures.

Men have free will and can choose the avenue (path) that they walk. The Creator does not over ride mans will. The Creator inspires men to rise above.

Does EVERYTHING Happen For A Reason? The answer has to be yes. Is the Creator orchastrating things? No....He does not make mistakes....what we have now in our lives is not of God.

But the Universe is headed some place and the Creator has decreed that and it will happen....then what?

Some can only hope for the anihilist view...

The earth can not survive another 100 years with the current attitudes around the globe. Chaos is imminent.