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I was watching one of my favorite movies yesterday - "Contact" - and I started wondering about perceptions of Time. If any of you have seen the movie, you know there was a part in there where Jodi Foster's character had an "experience" which lasted, by her estimation, about 18 hours. However, the observers of the experiment said the even lasted only a "fraction of a second".

Step away from that for a moment...
If we take any "unit" and begin cutting it in half, conceptually, we can never get to the point where the end result is "zero". So any "unit", mathematically, can be divided into an infinity of subdivisions.

Back to the movie..
From the information above, if we take a "fraction of a second" as a unit unto itself, then that "fraction" of a second can be divided into an infinity of smaller divisions of time.

F = fraction of a second

F x 1/2 = F/2

F/2 x 1/2 = F/4

F/4 x 1/2 = F/8

So that F/a x 1/n = F/an, (a > 0, n > 0)

By this equation/formula, we can see that the "unit" gets ever smaller, but never approaches "zero". Therefore, any abstract unit can be reduced an infinite number of times, which means it contains infinity.

So then, is it possible for a mind which is tuned to a sufficiently high frequency to experience a "fraction of a second" as a whole day...or a week...or...??

What do you think?

RM

Isn't that what happens when we dream?

A person can dream awhole heap of experiences in a few minutes.

Intresting.

I've always wondered about comas... if someone is gone for like, a year, how would they percive that time? Would they literally, fall/get hit and wake up... a year having past or would it seem longer? Or would it be diffrent regarding the depth of their coma? Brain waves/frequencies etc... Could you have a frequency transmitter/reciver and talk to them?... wake them up? Its all Delta and that type of stuff... I forget the stages. During REM a persons eye lids flitter, are they functioning on a higher frequency then?...

Antother intresting one is the cycle of the planets around the sun... Each cycle = a year, but on the outer planets, whos cycle is longer than the inner ones,10 yearson earthcould be 1 to lets say Pluto (still a planet I don't care)kind ofthe same thing you are looking at 017,therotations of the planets being divided into 12 diffrent sections, each with their own rotation around the sun as a divisionregarding time. Kind of anyway. Large planets days are longer blah blah blah...

Guess the speed of thought is the speed of light, as Tehuti says as they're signals sent electronically much like fiber optics.The speed of your reflexes reflects this,whats thetime between the thought to move and the action taken... such that its not even a 'thought' its regarded as one, 'action'.Or speech even you don't think to talk and have it said 5 mins later, its instantanious.

Now, ifa person can control the vibrations at which they work at they'd beable to resonate fast enough to experience time ondiffrent levels. 'Vibrations' being the natural resonance of physical matter.^ the resonanceto a higher frequency and people/objects dencity willmake them slower, time itself would be slower...Down that resonance and people/objects will seem faster, your mass now being dence. To get 'spiritual', angels are said to be able to download themselves to work at diffrent frequencies (dimensions) coming from one higher than ourselves they, ''can'' come down to work at our frequency/dimension/time and space. The same would go for interplanetary travel as gravity ie; The dencity of the planetwould effect objects/beings on said planet. The more dence the planet the slower time should/would be percived on said planet, effecting the things a person attempts to percive on the planet.

The aryan woman in Contact was taken some place where the frequency was higher and so time was altered, seemingly nothing to us, now being too dence,but hours to her.

If it was lower it would have been nothing to her but days to us,prehaps like abductions on earth are.

So then, is it possible for a mind which is tuned to a sufficiently high frequency to experience a "fraction of a second" as a whole day...or a week...or...??

No.

A person who has upped the frequency of their brain waves andnerve reception (sencitive)should be able to percive things that move on a higher level/vibrate at a faster rate, touch them, hear them, see the light they reflect etc etc.... but to actually experiencetime at that rate would involve their physical body ?occilating? (sp) at that rate not just their minds as that would involve mass... they'd have to be like, The Flash get crunk and shake themselves to get to that frequency and function there. The only way this would be possible would be in the astral (dreams) where if trained a person can 'leave' their physical body and function at diffrent frequencies,experience time on a diffrent plane. Otherwise the main problem would be how your organs would work on such a level... I mean, how would all that effect the fact we're made of water...?

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Breadfruit wrote:

Now now, I'm not trying to appeal to the rational brain with a watch on the wrist, how many different occasions have you lost track of time? in reality all you have lost is a fractional calculation of.... nothing!!!

Personally, I stated this before in some long ago thread, we all go through cycles and ages, time is just wo/mans smaller calculation of a cycle or an age.

Maybe I can't it explain properly, So I'll share something, about 10-12 years ago I used to commute into central London, everyday I ran the gauntlet of Liverpool St Stn. 1000's of people rushing about trying to get to work quick, "time is money" one day I stopped and just had a look around, all I saw was headless chickens (metaphor) I stopped working in the city shortly afterwards.

6-7 years ago an elderly man came upto to me at work, I told him I was going to be 10-15 minutes if he doesn't mind waiting, he replied "At my age, time means nothing" this had a profound effect on me, because there I was again rushing about for work, So finally when a wise person said to me... time doesn't exist and then went on to elaborate, I just understood what was being said to me.

Again...I'm not the best person at explaining in detail, but you have a vague overview of my thinking.

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The speed of a thought is almost as fast as the speed of light or electricity. No need to take everyone back to modern physics class here, but the faster objects move, the slower time is with respect to them. Just as if you went in a space ship travelling at light-speeds around the Universe for 1 year and then came back to Earth, time with respect to Earth will have elapsed a 100 years or so more while you would only be 1 year older. Given this in theory, we could deduce that our dreams our merely a series of thoughts, where our thoughts are electrical current pulses through neural networks of the brain and nerves thereby travelling at almost the speed of light. Therefore, we could hypothesize that our dreams can last much longer because an almost infinite number of electrical pulses can propagate through the brain's neural networks within one nights sleep, let alone the theories of relativity.

This was good Shemsi and I agree with you and Breadfruit but for 107s question I don't think we can stretch it that far. No way of knowing I suppose, except that I can't do it yet!

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Antother intresting one is the cycle of the planets around the sun... Each cycle = a year, but on the outer planets, whos cycle is longer than the inner ones,10 yearson earthcould be 1 to lets say Pluto (still a planet I don't care)kind ofthe same thing you are looking at 017,therotations of the planets being divided into 12 diffrent sections, each with their own rotation around the sun as a divisionregarding time. Kind of anyway. Large planets days are longer blah blah blah...