Let us see if we Christians, Muslims, atheists, agnostics etc. can agree on what Truth is.


Is Truth universal? Is it the same every where and to all?

I believe that someone mentioned that truth changes. I do not agree do you?

Salaam (Peace) to all.

If there is any Truth to the Unified Field , then there must be one single, all-encompassing Truth that binds existence together in this Universe.

However, because this Truth is "all-encompassing" and not an "object" that we can look at; and because we each have our own unique perception, we will inevitably be confronted with many different "perceptions" of the One Truth; and this could lead to the false notion that "there is no absolute truth".

My best estimation of what "Truth" is, is that...Truth is that which "IS", and we come into a greater and deeper awareness of "what IS" by interacting with "what IS".

The challenge is in our attempts to reconcile the differences in our individual perceptions of "what IS". This requires an ability to separate ourselves from our own point of view long enough to seriously consider another point of view...or other points of view.

Just as every human being is striving for survival, so every human being is seeking a greater understanding of "what IS". We are all looking for the same thing.

RM

You know MrM I think I agree with most of what you said.

I like the term Unified Field. By it I am assuming (a dangerous thing to do) that you mean universal. In other words a dog on earth is a dog on mars regardless what they call it.

Heat in Louisiana is heat in Los Angeles. And so on. These of course are tangible truths and easily verifiable.

Philosophical truths are a bit tricky as you said. Take creation for instance. We have many takes on this one circumstance, but only one version can be the true version of existance.

I guess this could be called "the Truth". All other truth branch off from "the Truth".

An example of a Universal Truth would be that there is a body of water that separates North American from Africa. There may be some who would dispute this truth but it would do more to catagorize them than come anywhere close to causing us to think twice about this truth.

A philosophical truth would be how or why men dispute or differ on truth for example what race was created first. I would very well think it would be difficult to find a race who did not have an opinion that favored their race is the original.

I believe that if there is an entity (satan) that embodies evil and wished to torment and destroy mankind for some reason. I believe this entities' greatest weapon is a lie. Lies separate and causes distrust in men.

If men were created and/or evolved on this earth then they must coexist. not one should be anihilated. There are lies that have us disunited. Truth will unify and not separate.

Truth is people think too much, and the very thing that causes people think, is also the cause of every thing that is wrong in the world, yet people turn around and worship it anyway.

Call it the soul, the subconscious or call it Satan, same thing. That's the only entity of evil in this land, the cause of all nightmares real or unreal.

The human animal or the thing inside the human animal is naturally inclined to do evil (wrong thinking). Try and not think a negative thought for one hour, a day, a month or a year. It's impossible for people.

The truth probably is to overcome that entity within yourself, which is kind of hard when people refuse to look at it and see it for what it is.

you may be on to something there peace maker (i like your moniker by the way).

not so much over thinking but as you put it wrong thinking. an undeniable fact is that of the total earth population only a small percentage is capable of right thinking without being steered to it.

the rest of us are the gullible ones...

A good question would be is math universal?

Is math the ''only'' truth?

Good Question...

My question would be...

Is Math "Truth"? Or is it a MEANS of ascertaining "Truth"?

RM

Truth is divine because it encompases all perspectives and angles, to acheive this a TRUTH must be KNOWN, therefore is free from opinion. To be KNOWN it must be learned, truly you cannot know anything until you learn how to know. For example MATH is A TRUTH but not necessarily THE TRUTH, why? because it is a KNOWN way of explaining our universe, but this only makes it META DATA, as there may well be other ways of explaining our universe. MATH almost explains from many differing perspectives, but just falls short as it still requires predetermined rules and criteria.

In other words it begins from a state of UNKNOWN to disciver the KNOWN. Often a TRUTH is unspoken, unexplainable and exists almost on another plain. beyond the micro world of the individual.

Sorry, but math would only be an example of the truth. it certainly is not "the" truth.

I see what may be considered 'truth' subscribing to two outcomes

> 'life'


> 'death'

Truth is life truth is death.

Truth is beginning truth is ending.

Do the laws of physics care about math? Does the planet Saturn have to do calculations to figure out which way to move from one microsecond to the next? People simply figured out which equations corresponded to the observed phenomenon. The phenomenon don't need the equations.

Truth is information/knowledge which corresponds to reality.

But how much have we figured out about reality?

People will believe an airliner can cause a skyscraper to collapse but they won't ask how many tons of steel were at the point of impact.

umbra

i feel you umbrachrist, the planets don't have to do calculations. but there are on percise orbits. the sun is at the exact angel and distance from the earth. the rotation of the earth is percise. as well as the time involved in the rotation.

throw any of these off and the earth would suffer tremendous happenings i have been told. one degree here or there, a minute here, the angle changed there and the consequences would be severe.