If the Cress theory, a breakdown of White supremacist thinking and culture is correct it should be possible to create an opposing culture that acts as a retardant to the current one, with further study it should be possible to predict and anticipate the reaction of white caucasians in order to keep one step ahead of them at all times.

The reason caucasians destroy everything they touch is that they are albino versions of the melaninated peoples of asia and have created a distinct culture (and as a result mentality) in which to survive and assert themselves as such. Albinos are genetically deficient so to fill the void in self confidence and alienation left by a lack of melanin content they have promoted neurosis amongst themselves, over thousands of years they have internalized the hatred of both themselves and us as melaninated peoples and imposed it upon us. They obviously recognize their culture their very way of life as weapon against us. We in turn should recognize it and do the same but with more effect as theirs is a house built on a stack of cards.

Am not sure how well researched the Cress theory is, not to throw doubt on it as it makes complete sense (that a deficient peoples would forge a culture from their deficiency in order to survive) but it would be interesting to test it out using the Isis papers as a guide line, as Welsing states, it should be a priority amongst us to do so rather than talk about ''racism'' it should be recognized as a culture, disseminated and worked upon across board in the same way schizophrenia or any other mental illness is recognized and treated amongst patients.

How can we further the Cress theory as written by Dr Francis Cress Welsing? Is it possible to create a culture that opposes or treats white supremacy it for what it is enough to turn the tables?

Will come back to this....

Actually, Welsing addresses everything you are talking about in her book The Isis Papers. She details how she thinks we need to modify our behavior to neutralize White Supremacist culture. Her work expanded almost 30 years and the examples she cites alone proves her theory. Furthermore, you can further validate what she says by looking at the War on Drugs, Jena 6, our political process, and many things going on right in front of us once you develop the awareness she has provided.

Then I would like to see evidence and proof that, golf is indicative of their sexual frustration and want of being accepted by a black mother, the small white balls being symbolic of their testicles along with other seemingly theoretical examples of white supremacist culture cited throughout the book.

You don't bash keyboards you press buttons... People with mental illnesses are handled and treated, talked to in a certain way, given medicines and so on. If the theory is correct we should be able to test and expand upon it until we can spell out their defeat effectively.

Do you want an end to all racial discrimination?

Then understand that racism does not equal ethnocentrism. The idea of racism, is that because of your genes, you are inferior to another group of people. This means that if you are a black, for instance, you cannot be part of the WHITE community because you are not equal in your abilities, to whites. The idea of ethnocentrism, is that one community is better than the other. For instance, the black community might feel it is superior to the white community for cultural reasons.

AN END TO RACISM CAN ONLY COME, WHEN EVERYONE IS FREE TO BE PART OF ANY COMMUNITY, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR GENES ARE. BUT ETHNOCENTRISM CAN NEVER, EVER BE STOPPED. SCIENCE HAS SHOWN ITS HARDWIRED INTO OUR GENES.

Do you want to have the choice to be yourself?

Then understand, so long as you beleive that you as a mixed person have some sort of obligations to either whites or to blacks, you are not free to be yourself, and embrace your own identity. You will never, ever, be free, unless you cut yourself loose from these responsibilites imposed on you by those around you. Dont think that inner voice is really yours - its not, it comes from your parents, family, and friends. Its your way of internalizing the racism of modern society, which tells you that you are not able to make your own choices. Dont listen to it, because it will keep you imprisoned.

Do you want a harmonious, multicultural society?

Then understand that such a thing is impossible, its only a fantasy invented by the left-wing thinkers of the 1970s. I should know, I come from somewhere far more multicultural than most of you, and I will tell you its a lie. There is no such thing. People fit with one or the other, black or white. Ethnic minorities are only temporary. By the third generation, Asians, Latinos, and Indians are absorbed into the white community, or into the black. Ethnic groups are just feeder pots into one or the other, white or black. You must realize this, its not my wishful thinking ,its established by mountains of scientific research. You cannot stop it, you cannot change it. It is impossible, because in the end, few people really want to be something other than the dominant group. Whatever they may technically call themselves, Asian, Latino, whatever, they act think, talk, feel, and live the same as Whites do. And the ones who dont, end up with the blacks.

Perhaps most productively so, Dr. Welsing spends her efforts in the Isis Papers detailing how we need to modify our behavior instead to neutralize the practices of White Supremacy. I would agree that this is far more important than trying to anatomically test the psyche of Europeans. Why should we even care to that extent? In the end, we would still be in our same condition because we have failed to effectively modify our behavior to reverse, eradicate, or neutralize the practices of White Supremacy by those who deem themselves "white".

"It is critical that we realize our present patterns of behavior permit white supremacy to exist. Directed radical change in Black behavior…will alter permanently the face of white supremacy, its victimization of the Black male and the Black female destruction of the Black male/Black female relationship." pg. 281
Dr. Frances Cress Welsing
The Isis Papers: Keys to the Colors

Behavior is learned.

The best way to change behavior is to make the consequences of said behavior pertinent.

I was jsut thinking back to the old days. Like him or not MLK was effective in changing the behavior or black people by putting shoe leather with his directions.

I am troubled at the statement "Directed radical change...". Black people have learned that after the demostrations, marches etc and the cadre has returned to their townhouses and life beyond ground zero we still have to go to work and face the circumstances.

Wouldn't, as King showed us, the cadre directing effort at their level of involvement have a greater effect and do more to spurn the masses to partake in the radical behavior change? Usually it is done down at our level and the powers that be would then contact the cadre remote from the situation and ask that a negoiated settlement be done. the cadre agrees and sips wine with the powers that be and we go back to work and behavior is not affected.

what do you think?

That's why it's important to make sure that the members of the "cadre directing involvement", are not given carte blanche, but are engaged and challenged, and held accountable to the interests of the collective. It's also why Black folks need to get rid of our need for "messianic leadersip", it's a hallmark of our immaturity and somewhat childish, collective mindset. It perpetually sets us up TO be sold out, by our so called "leaders". They are going to constantly be given the motive, means and opportunity to throw the rest of us under the bus, or at bare minimum negotiate away our interests AFTER the war has been won,lol. That has always been the area we REALLY get jobbed in. Not the battle or war itself, but the "negotitation of the peace"see our rush to integration as the be all and end all, or see South Africa as an example.

The origins of the idea of the Montogomery Bus Boycott, came from the grassroots level. From a Black women's organization called, the Black Women's Political Council(a group of Black women who worked at Alabama State College, Black women were the majority of bus riders in the city, not Black men, so it's quite logical that the idea would have come from them), led by sisters like Jo ANn Robinson. King was called into it to be a spokesperson after the train had already left the station. There is nothing wrong with that, powerless, disenfranchised people routinely feel the need to appoint someone to speak to the power structure on their behalf, or sometimes, someone is appointed/annointed by their enemy/the power structure, to speak on their behalf. The problem comes in when the best interests and desires of the group began to be defined by the best interests/desires/motivations/hang ups/self esteem issues/sexual predilections, etc, of the one leader/messiah. That person sells out, loses their mind, gets compromised in some way, or gets killed, or some combination of 2, or 3 or 4 of those things, and Negroes are running around like chickens with their heads cut off, for another 20 or 30 years looking for the "next messiah". It's inefficent, non strategic, and plain old stupid. We need to grow up, in that regard.

I will have to agree with you gmahogany.

leaders are born. the crab barrel still quells ours. mlk and the marchers were there for a season the show whites that fearless black people were a force to be reconned with.

king was the man.

what do you think America would have looked like had king fought. I can tell you that the sight of him being shot down in the streets of montgomery would not have played like the rodney king thing did. too early and not well enough organized. it would have set us back another 100 years after it was over.

things played out right. we jsut got tangled up in the process and too many sold out.

just listen to the so called elite tell us about stuff that have as much to do with surviving tomorrow as snowball in pheonix in july outside. that stuff will come in good when we need to capture the attention of the lost (junkies, destitute, disenfranchised etc).

we have enough problems to deal with than to be arguing what color god is.

we need so do ya luiah on the ground floor. I will be there this saturday and sunday on the streets of Shreveport and in at least two prisons.

Here is what disappoints me. to see the same kids in juvenile three weeks after they get out. it is very difficult to try and encourage them.

Until the cadre gets operating I will be found there.

In places such as South Africa and other countries across the globe where white supremacy is in action as it were we should be able to turn the tables on its practice completely, especially in South Africa and other places on the continent.. personally think its the perfect place for any Pan African endeavors the people there realize the need for a unified theory in the face of caucasian exploitation more so than any other Black African country.

The europeans came to the continent, sat with us and learnt from us for years prior to their attack and methodic oppression of us as a people. When I read the Isis papers I was reading a book on how to turn the tables, an insight into the minds of a peoples who have over many years built a system out of an initial illness, the English take pride in their snide spy like tactics in dividing and ruling us as a nation they understood that the way to take us down was to understand our way of life, our culture. Its obvious that we will never be free until the system of white supremacy is dismantled completely in my opinion we in the diaspora are living in danger of their tentative mentality in regards to us as a peoples, white psychologists and other professionals fear what drove the germans to mass murder in Hitlers time... economic disparity matched with an unreasoned fear of ethnic peoples means that he only had to press that button to set neighbor against neighbor whats to say that when these countries face economic troubles the same evil won't rise again? Don't even think it needs pointing out to you guys in the states... have been thinking about that one recently, don't think we're getting the picture here in europe. The Watcher posted a video link about the europeans past approach to Psychology and fear of their own population.

Granted we need to heal ourselves but in furthering the theory we are in the position to eradicate it completely.

If we develop economically they'll attack us, if we distance ourselves from their culture the same will happen. What other option do we have? Need a good offensive defensive stance.

In plain mans terms.
we need to start seeing further.
whites are mentally not well. and its a process that taken thousands of years.
and it started..
it started during the ice age.

the brutality and cold of that ungodly and unkind environmet produced a mutation in thier thought process in thier behaviour.
they became beast like,focused and all in all more cunning and determined by that process, their sole purpose is to command and rule ever seeking that comfort from that period. they are a product of thier environment. we were more relaxed in africa. leading to our current situation we are in now. second class(humans in a western world)

simple if you are in a hostile world, you become more determined, than those who hadnt lived the same life as you.

what they experienced in europe is what led to what they are today.. emotional and phsycological mutation. they can never change.. maybe they... will.... but not in our generation or our childrens childrens generation.
its all down to evolution. they are naturally evil. note how most who have lived with blacks from child hood tend to have a slightly better attitude. but just slightly.


[they are naturally evil.

I just don't see much point in lying to myself. I have enough of that from without. But if I am trying to turn a thing around I want a true assessment of the particulars: like the character of my enemy, his weaknesses, his strenghts, my weaknesses, my strenghts and on and on.

Lord I would hate to have to go to war with most of the assumptions that I hear on this forum. Under estimate your enemy and you are far spent. Over estimate your self and you may as well put the collar around your own neck.

Wisedom is usually never asked to sit in at war counsel and I can agree at times it can be disarming. But it always needs to be heard.

No one has to keep us down, with the thinking of our so called intelligencia we are doing a great job so to speak.

The man who is most able to take the blame for his part in the fiasco is usually the man who will come up out of the miry clay. But the man who will look to lay all the blame else where will likely float off and sink to the bottom reaching to others.

Cress Welsing gives examples where after loosing a war certain sports were made popular in line with her theory.... its this type of predictability I'm talking about, if they can be verified there will be other traits in other/all arenas of their society whereas a certain strain of 'insecurity' in regards to the theory can be seen and predicted. Once a peoples become predictable its possible to safeguard against them adequately, to be able to anticipate their actions is in of itself a defeat. If it is correct its probably true that after the vietnam war not only was golf and tennis suddenly popular but a certain pulse was sent through their entire society, the result of which would have been a rise in police brutality against melinated peoples other arenas would have to be s