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Default Black Terrorists ... - 19-02-08, 11:25 AM

From African Marxist groups to African-western sponsored dictatorial generals
To African American revolutionary groups…. Each cause has said to have been righteous, real and necessary…

..but what about ‘black muslim terrorists’ ? .how can or do you reconcile an ideal with an identity. ? Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari ( Jamaican born IMAM AND convert and those of his ilk ) might SAY THAT
it’s so much about an appropriation of an alien cause, but a diversifying of reason d’etre , or reason to live… an appreciation that they were more than their colour ( ? ) or that their beliefs and causes could transcend race based issues ( after all no body questions the loyalties of Christian afro-Caribbean’s.

Presuming of course there is a agreement on what black opinion is …or which types of people make up the African Diaspora: are Egyptians and Moroccans part of the Diaspora, how light skinned can’t you be? Does the one drop of blood apply ?

Some might argue that this means being more loyal to Islam over the African Diaspora?

But when it come s to ( AND I BEING A PERSON OF NIGERIAN AND JAMAICAN HERITAGE CAN attest TO THIS) ‘blacks’ of different nationalities, domestic and regional imperatives take precedence over the wider African diasporal imperatives every time.

Can you be a muslim and black most definitely….can you be a muslim extremist and still be black I know what my response is what s yours



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From African Marxist groups to African-western sponsored dictatorial generals
To African American revolutionary groups…. Each cause has said to have been righteous, real and necessary…

..but what about ‘black muslim terrorists’ ? .how can or do you reconcile an ideal with an identity. ? Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari ( Jamaican born IMAM AND convert and those of his ilk ) might SAY THAT
it’s so much about an appropriation of an alien cause, but a diversifying of reason d’etre , or reason to live… an appreciation that they were more than their colour ( ? ) or that their beliefs and causes could transcend race based issues ( after all no body questions the loyalties of Christian afro-Caribbean’s.

Presuming of course there is a agreement on what black opinion is …or which types of people make up the African Diaspora: are Egyptians and Moroccans part of the Diaspora, how light skinned can’t you be? Does the one drop of blood apply ?

Some might argue that this means being more loyal to Islam over the African Diaspora?

But when it come s to ( AND I BEING A PERSON OF NIGERIAN AND JAMAICAN HERITAGE CAN attest TO THIS) ‘blacks’ of different nationalities, domestic and regional imperatives take precedence over the wider African diasporal imperatives every time.

Can you be a muslim and black most definitely….can you be a muslim extremist and still be black I know what my response is what s yours
Of course you can be black muslim extremist...

Can you be black and a christian...?



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There was a post a while back in which kunjufu stated the question , can you have a white partner and be ‘pro black’ or words to that effect. He did mention something about putting the post up ‘can you be a muslim’ and ‘pro-black’ so I thought I might beat him to the post….



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Okay that is a little clearer.

assuming problack means something like what is happening in the us now with obama. that you side with black no matter what. even if the 'black' angle is not right. if it came down between the white partner and a black you 'have' to choose the black over the white "partner".

mike the reason that whites are in the situation in the US and over most of the world is because they did just that and chose their race and color over sound judgement. and now they are not trusted even by their own in many cases.

being problack will not by me anything in the long run.

now to answer your question, no you can't have a white partner and be problack. being problack precludes him from being your real partner. problack means in the 'quick you will side with black interests.



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one of the tenets of islam means siding/ putting religion first before any thing else this also means 'race based issues'..... i.e. allah is the be all and end all.



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Default 27-02-08, 02:34 AM

christianity has the same tenent mike although like islam we see little of it being put into practice. I will have to agree with most of the anti religious on this.

but through my experiences I would say that because someone claims to be a part of a 'religion' and yet fail to practice the teachings does not make the 'religion' false.



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perhapes the real question should be... does loyalty to religion come before loylty to your race.



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