It seems that it never ends. There always seem to be someone around to try and confuse our Movement. So, here is a clarification of our ideology Nkrumahism:


Marxism-Leninism and Nkrumahism
By Comrade Dr. Kwamr Ture (formerly Stokely Carmichael)

“Nkrumahism is scientific socialism applied to countries emerging from colonialism. And specifically African countries where the Marxist capital-labor conflict is only one of a number of fundamental conflicts”

-Osagyefo




There are many African organizations which accept as their ideology Marxism-Leninism. Many of these young organizations received their stimulus from the concept of Black Power, which emphasiezd the powerlessness of Africans. The All-African Peoples’s Revolutionary Party knows that the correct ideology for Africans the world-over is Nkrumahism. Nkrumahism does not and cannot negate the universal truths of Marxism-Leninism; it merely incorporates these truths.

Our Party finds that its attempts to spread OUR IDEOLOGY, Nkrumahism, we are meeting ideological conflicts from black Marxist-Leninists. We find the situation ironic simply because it is crystal clear to us that any African who understands Marxist-Leninist theory should readily recognize the necessity and correctness of our ideology. The irony in this case, we feel, is due to misunderstanding. Two particular concepts are recurring themes in this area. One is that the struggle of the African is one in which race [ethnicity] is totally irrelevant. This due to the fact that many Marxists-Leninists believe that economics is the only determining element in the making of history (sic). The other is that the African experience finds reality in Marxism-Leninism. The Party feels these organizations do not understand the importance of race in the class struggle today. Consequently, they are unable to comprehend the world socialist revolution in general and the Black [Africa. Abdurrahman.] Revolution in particular. (sic.)

One does not become a Marxist-Leninist by constantly using the term. I find myself constantly amazed at the number of people who become Marxist-Leninist overnight. It seems to me that Marxism-Leninism is a science which has to be carefully studied. Only after study, understanding and practice can one honestly and legitimately claim Marxism-Leninism. Engels understood this phenomenon and as early as 1830 cautioned against it. In a letter to J. Bloch he stated, “Unfortunately, however, it happens only too often that people think they have fully understood a new theory and can apply it without more ado from they have mastered its main principles, and even those4 not always correctly. And I cannot exempt many of the more recent “Marxists” from this approach, for the most amazing rubbish has been [produced in this particular quarter, too,”

Neither Marx, Engels nor Lenin (sic) ever claimed that economics was the sole determining factor in history. In the same letter quoted above Engels makes this crystal clear. He states, “According to the materialist conception of history, the ultimately determining element in history is the production and reproduction of real life. [See the Creation of Humanity at the Command of Allah. Abdurrahman.] More than this neither Marx nor I have ever asserted. Hence if somebody twists this into saying that the economic element is the only determining one, he transforms that proposition into a meaningless, abstract, senseless phrase…” Black (African. Abdurrahman.) Marxist-Leninists, proceeding logically from a faulty premise, arrive at an invalid conclusion asserting that in the African struggle race [ethnicity] is totally irrelevant to the class struggle.

Any student of revolution knows this is incorrect. They say they are fighting the class structure of the United States. But they do not comprehend that is a fighting “a racist class structure” and in this structure “capitalist exploitation and race oppression are complementary.”[1] Therefore, we must analyze the effects of this racial oppression and understand its relationship to the class struggle. This will allow us to arrive at the correct solution which will be reflected in our ideology. Since they do not analyze this relationship they fly into the arms of Marxism-Leninism, a science which did not analyze the race contradictions concretely, due perhaps to its own historical period. Any intelligent person knows that “in the modern world, the race struggle has become part of the class struggle”.

[His Excellency. Abdurrahman.] President Sekou Toure reminds us that Marx did not invent scientific socialism. Marx was an observer. He observed certain phenomena on relation to man and economic forces in general and to labor and capital in particular. Having observed the validity of certain theories based on historical materialism, he stated principles which act as a clear guide to the inevitable destruction of capitalism and its attendant evils, and for the reconstruction of a society free from exploitation of man by man. Many people who call themselves revolutionary ACCEPT THESE PRINCIPLES AS UNIVERSL TRUTHS. So, do I. As we stated earlied (sic) Marx, like Newton, observed and recorded but did not invent. Any student of science can independently observe the same laws of gravitation without prior knowledge of Newton. We thank Marx, Lenin and Newton for correctly classifying knowledge, thus making our own research easier.

In Osagyfo’s classical philosophical work, Consciencism, we can see that the theories of Marx and Engel have their roots in communalism. Thus, as an African, I should study Nkrumahism which knows communalism contains the very foundation of Marxism-Leninism. It contains my history, African history, as it must be presented in order to “become a pointer at the ideology which should guide and direct African reconstruction.” (sic) Nkrumahism has already studied the theories of Marxism-Leninism, accepting their universal guidelines and scientific methods. And Nkrumahism returns to Africa, returns to communalism, because Nkrumahism knows that if Mother Africa had been left untrampled by alien forces She would have been the first to achieve communism naturally, without bloodshed.

Nkrumahism now studies African history as it be studied as “the history of our society. Studying in this framework allows Nkrumahism to correctly analyze the forces of history utilizing the method of dialectics. Nkrumahism having studied its history correctly now dissects it the principles Marxism-Leninism, which it accepts universal truths. Thus Nkrumahism uses these principles to its own theories of historical materialism producing new principles for African reconstruction. [Note: see fudaa.blogspot.com under Nkrumahist-Tureist Economics. Abdurrehman.] [Note: see “Revolution and Religion” by His Excellency President Ahmed Sekou Toure. Abdurrahman.] Consequently, Nkrumahism merely sees as an instrument, thus avoiding dogmatism. Failure to understand this leads to disaster. It is like a man holding in his hands instruments preparing to perform an operation but having no knowledge of medicine. The charlatan preparing to remove a malignancy will cut our patient improperly and at random. His operation will not based on scientific knowledge, but on egotistical guess work. This unashamed imposter, who has stolen the instruments, screams to the top of his, lungs, “I am the doctor.”

Any African who accepts Marxism-Leninism must find his reality in Nkrumahism. Marxism-Leninism is the universal instrument; Nkrumahism is the scientific ideology. Nkrumahism is reality grounded in our African experience. If the African does not accept Nkrumahism we find him like our charlatan dogmatically slashing our patient, at first cautiously, then angered at not finding the malignancy; becoming more desperate, he find him killing the very patient he professes he wants to cure.

Thus we find these groups missing the boat completely. Were they grounded in the reality of Nkrumahism, they would know the “total liberation and unification of Africa under an all-African socialist government must be the primary objective of all Black [African. Abdurrahman.] revolutionaries throughout the world. It is an objective which, when achieved, will bring about the fulfillment of the aspirations of Africans and people of African descent everywhere. It will at the same time advance the triumph of the international socialist revolution, and the onward progress towards world communism.” These heretics of Nkrumahism (and consequently, Marxism-Leninism) see the primary objective of Black [African. Abdurrahman.] Revolution in America as the transformation of the American society; an obvious conclusion if one has an a-historical analysis. (sic)

We Black [African] revolutionaries, who are Nkrumahists, know that the highest political expression of Black Power is Pan-Africanism; and the highest expression of Pan-Africanism is Nkrumahism. [See fudaa.blogspot.com under Nkrumahist-Tureist Economics.] The pre-requissite of an Nkrumahist is knowledge and love of the ideas of Osagyefo. When these ideas “display themselves in moral theory and practice,” we have an Nkrumahist. We know that any ideology concerning African people, who have been maliciously scattered all over the world. During the calculated period of the disruption of our society, must consider all the component parts while maintaining “the core of the Black [African. Abdurrahman] Revolution in Africa.” We understand the death of imperialism is certain, and as Osagyefo teaches us “it can only come under the pressure of nationalist awakening.”

Brother Malcolm told us we needed Black Nationalism [African. Abdurrahman.], and Black Nationalism is African Nationalism, because the Blackman is the African and the African is the Blackman. Thus Black Nationalism is African Nationalism which finds its highest aspiration in Pan-Africanism. The ideology must go beyond mere nationalism. [See fudaa.blogspot.com.] It must establish a society where the principle, from each according to his ability to each according to his needs, is a reality. We know that Nkrumahism is the surest and fastest way to reach our goal. Especially since Nkrunahism has analyzed Africa so thoroughly with Marxism-Leninism. Our goal is to work in harmony with Mother Africa We are on safe ground. In the Mind of Africa we are told, “whereas socialism has been corrective in Europe, it has been the pristine condition in Africa in the form of communalism.” Any true African revolutionary must embrace Nkrumahism.

This material first appeared in Black Scholar Magazine

Front for the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia: March 2007

o.k.....but what exactly is your point ?

I was debating with a supremacist (white) who mentioned MLK's communist associations during the movement.

I have no idea what and who he dealt with. But I do know that he felt that there was an urgency to turn things around and whom ever at the time was willing to help out was greatly appreciated. Certainly communists have used people at different periods and places because of the circumstances that they were in to the 'party's' advantage.

Which is why governments should have learned by now that the keeping of a second or third class citizentry is a incubator for these people. You will share the wealth one way or another. A show of conspicuous consumption is a magnet of them.

Marx and Lennin used the tools available to them to promote their base.

What did Karl Marx say about the effect of planned obsolescence on the Gross Domestic Product?

How much good does it do Africa to import cars that are designed to bcome obsolete?

I noticed the word technology is NOT mentioned above.

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The point is, we are not communists, i.e. Marxist-Leninists. Sociaism existed in Europe long before Karl Marx. Nkrumaists are scientific socialists. True. But, adbherence to sceintifric socialism does not make one a Bolkshevik or a Leninist. In fact, the predecessor of Nkrumahism was Garveyism, not Leninism. Marcus Garvey expliciitly opposed Leninism. (Red Terror - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) Indeed all Euroepean ideologies are are alien to Africa. In tha case of Leninism, which is atheistic, it is an imposition upon the African soul, the soul which gave us the Three Great World Religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

In the second half of the previous centurry, we witnessed stupid attempts to impose alien ideologies upon Africa. One such instance was by a muslim. The other was by a christian. (In addaition zionism is a similar farce form the Jews). Mohammad Siad Barre (Siad Barre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) of Somalia violated Islamic Law when he attacked Ethiopia. Islamic law forbids any Muslim from ever attacking Ethiopia because Ethiopia gave us refuge in the early days of Islam (Front for the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia). Therefore, his war against Ethiopia was an afront to African history, culture and institutions. Apparently, his problem was he was so impressed by the Europeans that he forgot all about Africa. As a result, we now see Somalia as a failed state, one which has not had effective government for at least a decade. and which is largely dominate by Europeans with refugees in every major European country.

In the case of Ethiopia, we witnessed the spectatcle of Haile Mengistu slaughtering his own people in the name of Leninism (Red Terror (Ethiopia) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) This Red Terror was directed mainly against the African Revolution as represented by H.M. Haille Salassie and the Nkrumahists of the Ehtiopian People's Revolutionary Party. Millions of innocent civiilians were caught in the crossfire and died (1984–1985 famine in Ethiopia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

Just as importantly is zionism. When all three taken together, we see that they all have one thing in common an unbeleif or a disbelief in GOD. (Jews Not Zionists). In fact, European history is full of corruption of the Purity and Unity of GOD.

Nkrumah, like Garvey, was a believer. Therefore he could not have been a Leninist who was non-believer.

Collectivism - The view that the groups responsible for the individual and the individual development must proceed within the limits made necessary by the welfare of the group. This means and end of bourgeois concept of individualism.


Egalitarianism - the view that all men and women are equal and must therefore be given equal opportunities. It emphaisizes the ethical view of women - a women's worth as being and not as a tool or object.
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Dialectical Materialism - this asserts the primacy of matter the independent existance of matter and mind, but recognizes interaction between matter and mind and solves the matter-mind controversy by way of categorical conversion.
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Humanism - the view that each individual is a personality in him/herself and must be allowed full development by being treated as an end in her/himself and not as a means to an end.
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Just a suggestion... when making such a point, i think just like a thesis you should make references in your orignal post maybe links to what prompted you to make a post so we can clearly respond without assumptions... Not just links to back up your statement.

Of course, I have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about. The subject matter here is Nkrumahism and its relationship to Marxism-Leninism. Do you have anything to say abot this? If so, say it. I have raised this subject because since I have been on this site, I have witnessed a trermendous amonut of confusion about what we are about in terms of the African Revolution. Nkrumahism is the ideolgy thaat guides this Revolution. So, we need to be clear about what Nkrumahism is. I am a person who can help to develop clarity on this point. In fact, there are few other sources available that give better insight.

This is not a shot so much as a real question abd. I know nothing about Nkrumahism, in what vane is it? islam, christianity, buddahism ????

i thought you were an islamist purist.?

You know nothing about Nkrumahism because you have not been apying attention. I have been trying to explain to you for a long time that it is not about Christianity, Islam or any other such catgorization.

Nkrumahism is predicated upon the theory of catgorical conversion. This means that what is True in Islam is also True in Christianity. There is Only One GOD. GOD would not lie to a Christian and then tell the Truth to a Muslim. Thus, what is Good, Right and Just in Islam is also Good, Right and Just in Christianity.

Based on this theory, we are able to find a harmonization throughout African culture regardless of race, creed or color. It is upon this foundation that we shall Unite all of Africa.

could it be that you have not done a very good job of explaining abd? why is it always someone else's fault?

what is 'catagorical conversation'? How can what in islam be true in christianity? Even catagorically? I mean the crux of christianity is Jesus and there lies the biggest factor of disagreement.

"I have raised this subject because since I have been on this site, I have witnessed a trermendous amonut of confusion about what we are about in terms of the African Revolution. Nkrumahism is the ideolgy thaat guides this Revolution"

I am curious where you have identified this confusion on these boards between Nkrumahism and Marxism. And what makes you an authority on the subject???

Dialectical Materialism - this asserts the primacy of matter the independent existance of matter and mind, but recognizes interaction between matter and mind and solves the matter-mind controversy by way of categorical conversion.

What does all that mean?

What is matter? What is the matter-mind controversy and what is a categorical conversion??

Right. It is your fault that you wish to make Prophet Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him) an object of worship. Muslims will not go there with you. That is your problem. Even so, the Sermon on the Mount contains words directly from the mouth of Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him) that we in Islam absolutely agree with regasrdles of the category that you Christians wish to place it under. That is your problem; not ours. Also, we worship GOD. Because Christians want to trip off of our manner of worshipping GOD will not prevent Muslims from adhering to the Commands of GOD.

I have spent my entire adult life studying and learning and practicing Nkrumahism. You will notice that Dr. Kwame Ture's "Marxism-Leninism and Nkrumahism" was published in the early 1970's. There is nothing new about this. But, those who seek confusion have failed to take proper notice of this work. I transcribed it unto my page so that it would be readily available for anyone who wishes to see it. But, all of the principles covered in that work have been coverded many times over and over by me in this forum and several other forums. Not surpisingly, those who disagree with these principles have found it convenient to attack my personality rather than accept the principles at hand. Now, you must attack the personalities of others besides mine.

That term is somewhat unclear. But, basically there is no mind where there is no brain. Thus, the brain is matter, or the material reality. The mind is immaterial reality. We cannot see the mind; but, we can see the effects of the mind: thinking and creating. Mind and brain goes togetehr hand in hand. We cannot have one without the other as far as we know in our condition as living beings.

Abd:

I am not trying to tell muslims where to go with Jesus Christ. It is your choice not to accept Him for who He says He is in the bible. I have no problem what a muslims regards me as. What you think of me has nothing to do with my reality.

What Christians want to trip off your manner of worshipping God? If they do then they are not focused on the real deal. You sit here in judgement of christians and have been telling me since I came on here that because I am a christian I am brain washed and under white supremacy. go figure.

you are well mistaken in your assumptions of me and focused christians abd.

The only thing I am interested in from the Chreistian Community is the theology of Liberation, Black Theology which is wholly compatible with Islam. This includes the Sermon on the Mount. In fact, it includes about 99% of the Bible. It is only that 1% that contradicts prophesy that I have problems with. That 1% proves that the Bible has been tampered with and desecrated. This is not my fault. But, it is objective truth and reality.

But frankly, I would like to avoid a discussion of the Bible in this thread. Here we are discussiing philosophy and ideology. This is about politics, not religion. We can go to the thread on Black Theology to talk about what is in the Bible.

because I don't agree with much of what you say about christianity especially about being brainwashed and slaves you assume many untrue things about me. that simply is your not being comfortable with what and who you are.

your judgement is clouded by your ideal of whites and sympathy for blacks.

through out the history of the world it can be easily noted where evil men misused the bible, koran, sandskirt and other writings of the so called religions of the world. islam is not exempt.

you boasted on islam and now have come to push something called nkruhism or something.

what is islam not good enough for you now? or did you and this guy add to it or redevelop the themes of islam to fit your culture?

christianity as does God changeth not...

Generally I say what I think about you. The only time that I do not say it is when I think I will be unnecessarily offensive and counter-productive. So, rest assured that if I have not said it, I have not "assumed" it.

There is no doubt that the Bible has been used to justify slavery, contrary to prophesy, especially the prophesy of Moses (Peace and Blessings be upon him). And, many Christians have been brain-washed to ignore this fact and/or to accept slavery as part of their Christian theology. To say this is not to be personal or subjective. This is an objective statement pertaining to objective historicaL facts. It has very little to do with you personally. All I am trying to do is let you know that any intelligent, thinking African needs to reject a submission to European slavery. By adhering to the principles of Black Liberation Theology, we refuse to accept a submission to slavery. Thus, we have a foundation upon which we can be free men and women with human dignity as given to us by GOD.

I am a Muslim. Politically, I am an Nkrumahist-Toureist. True, it is not always "comfortable" to hold my positions.

Actually, I seldom think in terms of "whites" and "blacks". Those are racist concepts. I prefer to call us Africans. And, I call the Europeans Europeans; and, the Asians Asians. I call the Indians Native Americans, etc. This way, I avoid the racism trap.

How do you know if you never read Qur'an?

Osagyefo Dr. Kwame Nkrumah was a Christian as far as we know by public record. So, what's the big deal? Ain't this what you want to see? A Muslim following a Christian?

Black Liberation Theology is compatible with Islam and Nkrumahism-Toureism. 99% of what we know as Christinity is compatible with Islam.

What is NOT compatible is what is known as secularism as expressed mainly by the Protestant Movement and zionism. So, as long as you adhere to exactly what is recorded in the prophesies of the Bible, there is no conflict between Christinity and Islam. You must remember that at the time that Islam was Revealed, Muslims found refuge in Christian Ethiopia. Why did the Muslims and Christians get along so well in Africa? Because both worshipped the exact same GOD. At that time Qur'an had not been fully Revealed. So, the Bible was our main source of guidance.

What happened over time is that somebody tampered with the Bible. But, Qur'an came along and held the Muslims true to the True Religion, that Old Time Religion of Abraham and Moses (Peace and Blessings be upon them both).

Still later, there was the Protestant Movement and the slave trade. (I concede that slavery existed in Arabia and Africa prior to Islam. But, it was not until the Christians came along that we had this racial problem that we see now in America where only Africans can be enslaved. In pre-Islamic Arabia and Africa, slaves were often white Europeans and Asians, not black Africans.) There was the Christian Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc. It is not a pretty picture.)


Osgayfo died around 1972. This work called "Marxism-Leninism and Nkrumahism" was published around that time. It is true that I helped to refine Nkrumahism. This occured in the early 1990's. This refinement is known as Nkrumahism-Toureism. There is nothing to hide.

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I am not going to "assume" anything about you. I am going to call you a liar. Every fool knows that there have been many changes in Christianity. This is why there are so many denominations. Of course, I have tried to avoid this issue. I know you have been trying to discuss denominations in another thread. But, I wanted no part of it. But now, you have forced the issue on me. Every one of those denominations and "schisms" represent changes in Christianity. And, you know it.

You said that christianity has been used to promote slavery. I said that islam and every other teaching has also. you said that I can not know because I have not read islam. would you have us think that no man imbedded in the rationale of islam can go south? no one can make a clarion call and use the koran to promote himself?

i do not expect you to be fair with christianity, because you need a target to point to. you are claiming that slavery is the problem with africans and the world at large. your aim is nobel but you collection of intelligent energy is suspect. you claim not to be racist but you are only a black one as david duke is a white one.

you are not heading toward ending racism but purpetuating it.

slavery is a thought process that has to be shaken off by men. and if they truely were dependent upon the slave master they need a new place to place their dependacy the next morning.

the people who work for oprah are slaves to her as the employees of walmart are to the waltons. it is called making a living. the world is far gone from the way God intended. in a sense men will always be slaves to some entity. be it black or white. would you rather if be a black one. i think each individual case warrants insight. i have had some black bosses who would have made hitler proud as well as whites.

I will say in absoluteness today 3/19/08 that there will never be racial harmony in this present world. there are too many many on either side of the divide who promote division and disharmony for various reasons. the only thing that brings men together today is a common enemy. elsewise they fall into distrust and envy of each other fueled by the ministers of division who are set to prosper from the seperation.

the individual has to take control of his or her life and see through the facades of bitterness and trek on until....

I have no problem with you calling me a liar. fools throw the word around quite readily. I would just ask that you give the evidence to prove it.

you just gave a tidbit on denominations and alluded to me defending it. i would doubt that you would find one post on here or any place I have posted where i have ever defended such foolery.

in fact i have shown you where islam is divided such as in iraq where there are at least 3 factions there. and even this nkhurhism that you are now promoting is attached to islam.

what God gave to man is not at all for one race or another but for mankind. it is men who subvert what He has given. you argue against my lifestyle i ask question about yours. i don't have to defend mine, you call me a liar because i believe in mine.

your struggle with christianity will never end because it is true and unchanging. you struggle to make islam black will never end. God is no respecter of persons of any color. God created all men. Evil divides men and causes us to seek comfort rather than compassion.

Fair enough. I hope you can accept that in your human frailty, you are not perfect. "For all have sinned and fallen short of the Grace of GOd." Hahaha. In your particular case, you said that Christianity does not change or something to that effect. At the same time, you acknowledge the existance of denominations. Each and every denominantion is a change. Thus, you lie. I think you know you are lying. In other words, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you are not aware of this lie. If you were not aware of it, that is almost as bad as lying as itself. In other words, there is no excuse for ignorance because ignorance is almost as bad lying itself. In any case, I have pointed the lie out to you now. So, the righrt thing for you to do is to acknowlege that you lied and hopefully apologize for it.

I did not say you defend it. All I am saying is that that is the reality. And to deny this reality is to lie.

In the public record Nkrumah was a Christian. However, Nkrumahism-Toureism speaks to Sekou Toure who was a Muslim. Thus, we have an ideology that harmonizes Christianity with Islam. This way Christians and Muslims can stop fighting the white man's wars and unite around developing our own community and Africa. I personally have asked you over and over again to try to put our differences asisde. I am here for political reasons, not religion. But, I do acknowledge that Islam affects my politics. Christinity also affects my politics; so, I do not see a problem. You have the problem; not me.

I call you a liar because you are living a lie.

Tha same old lie again. Every denomination in Christianity is a change.

Islam is a n African religion. This is not my fault. Christianity originates in Africa. But, when it came to Europe, it compromised with European paganism. This is a historical fact. It is not my fault. This is a reality that I must deal with. If you were an honest man, you would deal with it too.

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There is nothing wrong with comfort and pleasure. It is a perverted European ideology that makes us think that comfort and pleasure are evil. GOD also gave us comfort and pleasure to enjoy on this side of life. Only Christians, more precisely Protestants try to live a lie without pleasure. This is why we see Bill Clinton sneaking around having sex with every little whore who comes along. The same is true of Jesse Jackson. If a Muslim had those problems he would be honest enough to marry the women; not kick them out in the cold. It is okay for a Muslim to have some pleasure even if it means taking more than one wife.

here is the first lie you will have to eat abd.

yes christianity does not change. like God it is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow.

stupid men and their weak or tainted interpetation is what you are talking about.