In ancient times/ in the old Ethiopia a man convicted of a major crime was expected to go home and commit suidide. It was enforced by others if he took the dishonourable route.

I dont see that the death penaly would make any difference to crime rate. People always will take risks. And perverts do what they do because they are perverse.

I agree with castration for crimes against children. Forget rehabiliation just kill the urge at source.

But if its for revenge then why not. Why should a community not avenge the death of one of their own.

I totally agree with lady freedom. I mean, everyday you open the newspaper there's some sort of creepy heineous crime in addition to people going missing and being attacked, murdered, abused... it's too much. i mean I honestly cringe at the thought of raising children in this society, because you just may have to keep tight reigns on them so they don't follow the wrong crowd or are vulnerable to certain people, let alone having to worry about all these evil people ruining and taking lives. I mean... barbaric..? Killing barbarians ... isn't barbaric. What can society do , to protect themselves. So many things are being taken advantage in the legal system today, I mean some lying cheat could sue you out of your own home and living by making false claims, the law system is weak. D'you know what... it's horrible when they report someone as missing, because the older you get ,the more you realise, the likelihood is tha it means they are going to turn up dead or the body will never be found.. it's too much. Why should decent members of society have to be subject to such... people? IT'S DISTURBING, where it concerns murder, fight fire with fire. If anyone has committed a crime and they have a family, they should have thought about their family before they became a criminal, let along their victim. If they did commit such crime, especially perverted, what decent people would want them in their family anymore? And I'm not just talking about saving face, what about morals?

don't waste the tax payers money man, just kill em, creamate them and give it to the family's so these freaks won't have to take up space in the graveyards amongst all te other human beings who don't make society bad. But then again, we'll probably have the typical media attention crusades of faily's who 'reserve the right to give their criminal relative a proper burying" I've already got the answer for that one. Read them theiir last rites, kill 'em ,creamate 'em, agree with the church that criminals can't take up grave yard space,make it the law. simple.


Like I said, raising a child in this volatile society makes me cringe, i mean, you have to be careful who you put your kids around, even their not safe under your roof, you have about kid criminals.


Whatever happened to citizens rights, i mean it seems to be the state or the criminals getting the better deal these days, what about the ones inbetween... us... the citizens?

Speaking as one who is ardently against the death penalty, it'll look like a contradiction when I say EXCEPT for paedos.

The death penalty for these people should not be looked at as a deterrent but astrictly as a punishment.

For some when they carry out their nastiness its for power (only), but for an awful lot more itsabout sexual gratification too - letsget realplease.

None of you have touched on the MAJOR issue that lies beneath this.

Sure we all want justice and nasty crimes must be punished...

but then who are you trusting with this awesome power over our lives? All the time we hear about people in jail being let out after new evidence has come to light. I just DO NOT trust the police and the prosecution services that much. How many innocent people will be sent to the gallows. Do we really want our own Mumia Abdul Jamals over here? We criticise people like George Bush for signing death warrants that kill many black men in America only to wish for Tony Blair to have the same powers??

Fine, you may be thinking, some innocents dying might be acceptable to preserve the principle but when it is YOUR son falsely accused of something and the whole system is against him baying for blood... then you will know

The methods for determining guilt or innocence at court are not adequate enough for us to be killing people at the outcome. If they were then people would not be being let out and pardoned.

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DrunkMonkey makes some very good points that tend to nullify some of the points I was going to make. However, one thing I want to get clear from those who are advocating the death penalty is on what basis are you advocating it:
1. To save the taxpayer money (i.e. it cost more to keep them alive in prison).
2. To avenge the victim, and cater to the desire by the victim's family for such.
3. As a deterrent against others commiting the same crime...or crimes full stop.
4. Personal preference because there are certain categories of crime that YOU particularly detest.

Each of those basis can spring forth a major debate within themselves, because for all of them the issue is not a straight forward one.

A final question for those advocates of the death penalty. Would you personally be prepared to carry out the act as the executioner of people sentenced to death?
I cannot think of a more spiritually delapitating profession than that one. I wouldn't take it for any money.

Respect