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Hi people..

i know there are soooo many topics on this website based around the colour of ones skin...dark v light...etc etc...but i just wanted to know what people generally thought about it....good or bad.

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Ho wcan bleaching your skin be good???? It can NEVER be good

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NOOOO, i'm not saying it's a good thing at all!!!! I think it's f**ked up!

I was just asking a question. As so many black people out there do it...maybe SOMEONE can make me understand.
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Damn! is that pic you??


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No is not a good thing dont do it.


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Post imported post - 15-05-04, 11:31 AM

Don't do it, shite like dat is never gonna be good 4u..

You bleach your clothes 2 take out stuff dat you don't want on it, if you work in dem big office dem, you've seen those nasty coffee cups you bleach da crap out of those esp: if its your cup & sum1 has used & not washed it since da other day..

So your skin wid all its natural goodness, leave it were it is, within yr fine self..Nice1


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Post imported post - 16-05-04, 12:46 PM

no it is not good. it looks ****ed up. does'nt look attractive and i don't understand why so many people do it. boys and girls alike. you can always tell when someone has been bleaching. oh! don't forget about the nasty side affects. the spot like moles, the added facial hair, the redness.


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dya know what people, i would never DREAM of bleaching my skin, the only the discolouration i would want to see on my face is if i accidentally burn it with some curling irons!! I'm a darkskinned honey and very proud off it!

I see so many bleached brothers and sisters out there and i ask myself do they actually have any real friends to tell them how stupid they look?? If some of them were to stand butt-naked in a cosmetic store, i'm sure most people would find their match...somewhere!!!

I have quite a few relative that bleach and i only hold my tongue out of respect as most of them are a lot older than me...i have to school the younger ones.

@ Alliya4eva2003...Girl..don't let me have to tell you about some side effects i have seen!! Dya know my old hair dresser, she was as dark as myself once upon a time. I had to stop myself from asking her if she had a darker twin at one stage. She used to do my hair nicely, but the bleaching man She bleached so bad that if she was a heroine addict she would NOT find it hard to find a vein with one eye shut..her skin was so transparent that when she was pregnant she wouldn't have need an ultrasound.
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dya know what people, i would never DREAM of bleaching my skin, the only the discolouration i would want to see on my face is if i accidentally burn it with some curling irons!! I'm a darkskinned honey and very proud off it!

I am just asking a question but I am not asking the for a brand-name because I don't want to promote beaching whichI think is a self-hating activity.
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Ok my questions does any of the over the counterbeaching work? My sister had acme really badly at one time and it left her face full of dark spots. She tried all types of beaching creams but nothing worked. Thankfully with timethe spotsjust faded away.


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@ Spice - the bleaching cremes that u get over the counter here in the USare not as strong as the ones availabel in Europe/Africa. Besides, Americans dont bleach in the way Europeans/Africans bleach.

The strengths of bleaching ingredientthat people are talking about on this thread would only be available through a doctor's prescription.


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an article i found



The Skin Bleaching Phenomenon - Commentary


By Merrick A. Andrew
Posted Sunday, September 1, 2002



Pretty Tamara Richards is convinced that white people have all the advantages in the world. She believes that white people get jobs easier, earn the highest salaries and attract handsome and wealthy men. But there’s one little problem: Tamara is just about four shades darker than the typical white woman and just barely graces the ‘browning’ category among her black people.

Her perception is that the fairer you are, the more likely one is to become successful socially, economically and romantically.

The 18-year-old Jamaican has always wished she had a lighter colour. So to solve her ‘problem’, Tamara is using skin-lightening creams. “White people get the better things in life, yes,� she says. “You have a lot of advantages when you are white.�

In this Caribbean island of 2.6 million people, health authorities say hundreds are skin bleaching and the problem is that many people misuse by overuse skin lightening creams, which are prescribed at low doses to correct uneven pigmentation.

However, the products, many of them manufactured in North America and Europe are sold over the counter throughout the island, the Caribbean and the world.

Dr. Neil Persadsingh, a leading Jamaican dermatologist and author of the book “Acne in Black Women�, says some of these creams work by killing melanin, the substance that lends skin its pigmentation and protects the skin from the cancer-causing ultraviolet rays of the sun. All people have melanin in their skin; the more melanin present, the darker the skin.

In addition, he says, the preparations contain large amounts of hydroquinone – a white crystalline de-pigmenting agent that is fatal in large concentrations. Victims will suffer from nausea, shortness of breath, convulsions and delirium. Damage to the skin – wrinkles, severe acne, marks – may be irreversible after prolonged use. Sheena-Kay Morris, 16, who also lives in McIntyre Villa, a ‘ghetto’ or garrison community in the volatile capital, Kingston, hasn’t used the creams for almost a year now.

However, her complexion has gone unusually pitch black with bumps on her face and shoulders.

Dr. Persadsingh says some of the products contain steroids and hydroquinone, which are mutagenic. This means they can cause changes in the body that can lead to cancer. Many users, he notes, find their skin gradually becoming darker when they quit using the chemicals, and some develop a scaly layer on their skin. Few return to their original skin color once they have used skin lighteners.

“The prolonged and continued use of these creams will lead to a face looking like a grater,� warns Dr. Persadsingh.

“When we are faced with this type of damage there is nothing that we can do except to advise the patient to live with their condition,� the dermatologist says.

For Tamara, who also lives in McIntyre Villa, skin bleaching is just as popular as keeping afloat with a popular fashion trend. Like many youngsters her age, the older women influenced Tamara in her community. She got hooked last year when she bought a steroid cream named “Movate� at a wholesale store in downtown Kingston. The results from bleaching her skin evoked mixed reactions from her male colleagues. “Some of the men say I look pretty and I should continue. Some will make fun at me, say you look like a monkey and call you ‘black-white’,� says Tamara.

“It’s the in thing. It makes you look cool and pretty, it takes out the black heads. It makes it smooth,� she says. “But it tones down your skin and makes it light and cool,� adds Tamara, a high school graduate who wants to pursue a career in computer technology.

Tamara lives with her stepmother and father, who don’t seem to care about what she’s doing. “They don’t say anything,� she says.

Household bleaching

If you happen to take a walk into any inner-city community on an early morning don’t be surprised to find several girls with powdery or painted-looking faces. They are bleaching.

Apart from the traditional skin lightening creams, some Jamaicans use toothpaste, curry powder, milk powder, household bleach and cornmeal. These products are cheap and effectively cool, users say. “The toothpaste and the bleach lighten your complexion,� explains Tamara. “The curry powder brings out the beauty and the cornmeal and milk powder makes your face cool.�

Dr. Persadsingh says: “Jamaicans perceive that when a product burns it can clear the skin. That’s why they use toothpaste, curry and household bleach as a base for lightening the skin.�

Why people bleach

Health care professionals and social commentators in Jamaica view the trend with dismay, for example numerous reggae songs censure the practice, such as the early 1990’s hit “Dem a Bleach� by Nardo Ranks. Health officials say skin bleaching in Jamaica dates back over decades. Over the last 5 to 10 years the practice has been increasing significantly, says Dr. Clive Anderson, dermatologist and an executive member of the Jamaica Dermatologists Association.

“There’s a large segment of our population who are convinced that being lighter in complexion is to their advantage, socially, in terms of their relationships and economically, in terms of getting ahead,� he said. Dr. Persadsingh shares the same sentiments. He said some women don’t know why they are doing it. “Some girls feel that with a lighter complexion, their prospects in life would improve. Some are bleaching their faces and when they are asked why, they have no answer. “I have been told that men are responsible for the girls bleaching their faces, as all men only want ‘browning’ (light skinned women) and do not like black girls. This is rather nonsense of course. Some people even claim that the girls are bleaching now because of slavery and that the white people are to be blamed. Again, what utter nonsense,� Dr. Persadsingh scoffed.

Media advertising worldwide greatly enhance the stereotypes that light skinned people are advantaged socially and romantically. In Jamaica, advertisements like these are not broadcast, printed or aired often, but the few depict light skinned women saying for example that “Vanishing Cream fades dark spots and freckles, lightens and brightens skin to a smooth radiant glow.�

An article on the web site www.africana.com said: “One Kenyan TV ad features a young woman staring lovingly at her boyfriend in a college cafeteria. Another pretty woman with slightly lighter skin walks by, upon which the man jokingly asks the girlfriend how he can tell the woman that she is the “most beautiful girl I have ever seen.� Devastated, the young woman responds to a voiceover advising her to use “Fair and Lovely,� a skin cream promising “special fairness vitamins� and guaranteed to lighten her complexion in just six weeks. The young woman uses the cream and, sure enough, keeps her man.� Health authorities

The Ministry of Health (MOH) in Jamaica has released a list of banned beauty products that have been in circulation for many years. A MOH spokesperson says that it’s hard to clamp down on the culprits, because they continue to change the name of the products and distribute to street vendors.

The authorities have so far seized creams such as Movate, Reggae Lemon Gel, Top Gel Plus, Omic Gel Plus, Lemonvate Cream, Tropesone Gel, Tropesone Gel Plus, Neoprosone and Pro-Beta-Zone. Some of these products cost as much as US$9.

“The Association of Dermatologists has no empirical data on the problem, but it is certainly hundreds and thousands of people who are doing this,� says dermatologist Dr. Anderson.

He adds: “This is something we (dermatologists) are seeing daily. I would say a good 10 to 15 per cent of the patients we have been seeing have been doing this.�

The MHO has appealed to citizens to stop misusing these drugs as they were putting themselves at serious risk and overburdening the health system as they sought to treat the damage done to their skin by the creams.

However, this psychology for social acceptance, more opportunities, and improved self-image, is already epidemic. From as young as 10 to as old as 40, many are still using it. “Why? It’s your face, it’s your body, and you can do anything with it. I will stop bleaching when I want to stop. I know what I am doing,� says 36-year-old Trisha Smith, a veteran skin bleacher, whose face is distinctively clearer than the rest of her body.




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. Besides, Americans dont bleach in the way Europeans/Africans bleach.
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@Happiness, thanks for clarifying that for me. I feel that is one positive step(not obsessed with changing ournatural color) forward for African Americans in self-acceptance and self-love. I just wished blacks all over would stop it also.
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@ Spice - the bleaching cremes that u get over the counter here in the USare not as strong as the ones availabel in Europe/Africa
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That sounds so frighten and self-destructive.
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The strengths of bleaching ingredientthat people are talking about on this thread would only be available through a doctor's prescription.
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Personally, I would feel self-loathing and ashame if I wasn't getting this cream to remove a discolored area but wasusing it because I hated the color of my skin. I couldn't look the doctor or pharmacist in the eye.
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