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free · (#26 (**permalink**))

Fredblack wrote:

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@RFYW said"Interesting double standard.

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So if you are a man you are guilty merelyby association - in other words if you are a manno amount of mitigation will saveyou from thefull venom of the puritanicalfundamentalists who believe that simply being a man isitselfa crime.

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However - withshameless inconsistency these samemoral fundamentalistswill saythe woman, whose conduct can be equally said to have contributed to her misfortune, will recieve tea and sympathy.

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Praises to The Most High that Blacknet is not the real world!

A few comments. Can I say life is funny because I wanted to extend a discussion you were having with Backatya where he made some very very crucial points which had me wanted to jump in but thought against it. However you have raised the same point today and I am very happy as it gives room for some serious reasoning on a very serious point, on an issue where I know we both share an absolute passion for, the interest of black men.

I would go even further still and say this type of debate is critical in extending the education process for black men primarily and sisters of course.

1. First I think there is a fundamental intellectual confusion about particular key points and this is not directed at you. You have just provided the opportunity for us to discuss the matter. Broadly in society and this and western societies and we see this in both popular male and female behaviour and attitudes.

With regards to the nature of human, civilisation, the roles of men and women, the attitudes and biases which evolve, how each group is characterised in the way they are, and how this relates to social processess.

There are fundamental double standards which threaten any social order or society. There are also double standards which arise from any number of social roles which we can do little about other than to understand, and work around. Those standards work for and against people simultaneoulsy.

Ask any anthropologist andthey willtell you societies are based on particular double standards whichhuman beings can't actually get out of that easy. Many of them are rooted in concepts ofbiology spirtuality and things to do withcreation and social order and a whole gamut of things. Moreover, most of them exist beyond conciousness. Eg we don't think about them, as they have been with us so long, we simply have them and repspond appropriately.

Here is a double standard. Men have always had less control over their sexual activity than women in almost most major civilisations. Even in societies which have comparativelypermissive and liberal traditions eg African basedsocieties..men still had more scope toflex generally.

You will find that in any civilisation from the year dot. Even where there are clear moralrules around it. The prostitutes are always less worthy than those they sexually serve. Another double standard. Why because men in species terms are seen as the sexual predators in all societies. It is rooted in biology and culture, psyiology eg male power and size and a whole range of stuff. Men are seen as the dominant group who like most animals, especially the dominant ones are seen as having the right and the necessity to spread their goods. Our whole civilsation is premised on these notionsin oneform or another.

Women can like sex or whatever as much as men, that is not in question,however the right to excercise that in public or in society is fundamentally different. Black women can talk here on Blacknetlike they are free but cannot goout there and talk like that. It isscorned in almost every society on the planet outside .Even inHollywood actually. Jack Nicholson and Waren Beatty before him were heroes .Very few leading ladies can conduct themselves in that manner. No matter how much fame or money they think they have.

Lookat Maddonna miss modern girl and I will sex who I like and brag about it. What happened to her? Little miss revolutionarybumpedin the real world and how it works. And women cannot be doing that kind of stuff in adult life and be respected. And check her now and many like her the pinnacle ofresepectablity and chasteness.

Look at mostAfricantraditional societies and their attitude to adultery. The man was put to his death or exiled if he was really lucky. No such fate or to that extreme befell a woman. Why? Because of the organising principle that men are the predators and usually the instigators of such acts. This may not betrue actually as the female mating game and males is very different and from myexperience women are calling the shots not the man. Heis responding toher who really controls that process.

Don't you think that was a really tough call for some men, who got caught in compromising situations when a particular woman made sure she had her best dress onto accentuate her assettsetcwhen he was in the area or whatever. Life is tough my brother. For man and woman andcertain biases or inconsistencies which are the work of the creator not man, simply goes with the territory of life.

When Emperor Shaka broke precedent and executed a woman for adultery along with the man. It was not for the fact she was involved .It was the for the fact they did this during a war while her husband was fighting. Therefore setting the example that no warrior need worry ever again about what his wife is doing while he is at the front. Because she would get it as well as the man. It was unheard of and women could not believe it. But it only applied to war time conditions.

Did Zulu men cry about equality? No they as men actually were happy with their lot and know with any benefit comes a cost. I would take the burden of being a man for the rights it gives me in a whole heap of areas against those of being a woman. Eg the right to chase fine black women without the stress. Worth every whip lash.

There are double standards for men in many areas which we simply live with as that is lifeand as many for women. There are many fundamental reasons why society imposes double standards on its women or menasfor itsown survival eg owner ship of children etc.

Men generally rape women. It is not the other way around. That stems from the basic facts of human life, phsyiology, psychology and the intrnsic nature and differences in masculinity and femininity and how this manifests, especially in a perverted and dysfunctional manner. Male rapist threaten the structure of communal and village life. Given men rape women and not the other way around. The great minds in the area of law and policy who exist in every civiliasation design what we call decision rules where the bias is against the man.

Why because it is nottechnically possible to develop a decision rule where the rights of men and women are perfectly balanced in such situation. Men develop similar decision rules in other areas of civil and criminal law which benefity men, more so than women using the same reasoning. I actually commend the legal minds at work in this instance on a broad policy level.

Brother this is still a male dominated white society are most of the decision rules in all major areas of policy favour men, with a few exceptions. Of course those areas which favour women strike at the heart of some very very serious things eg the right to decide, rape, ownership and control of children etc. But apart from that....?

Now back to more fundamentals. From the begining of time and we can examine any what I call organising text of any civilisation be it the Quoran, the Bible, The Husia and texts which it is composed of. Ancient oriental text, the Ancient Greek classics, Shakespear and I could go on all day. What do we find which informs us about basic issues of masculinit and femininty.

It shows us men and women alike are driven by both higher and lower things. We love sex, particularly men and the particular aspects of femininity and what it gives us and how it makes us feel. Why shouldn't it? It is god given and a form of higher power as well as a form of baser instincts...It is the eternal conflict.

All these great teachers from the year dot. Have taught us men and women are each others weakness and many of the greatest men who have inhabited this planet have been brought low by what..the want and desire of a woman, particularly of lowcharacter and high in calculation.

And while women have always and will generally be seen as those requiring social protection, especially as motherhood was a key aspect of that self definition, they have always been seen as victims or those requiring protection and that is something most men on the planet feel comfortable and natural. I forone am veryhappy being the protector of the women who want to succumb to my protection. This does not mean that women have not opporutnistically used societies perceptions to hide their calculations and devious motives.

Women have been visting seers, buying potions from the beginining of time to either make their "boos" catch their eyes in the most innocent form, to women who would sell their souls to Lucifer himself to make pacts or whatever it takes to get a man, for dishonourable and potentially destructive purposes. As men have done. Many a solidier has been posted to Timbuktu so his Commander could squeeze up to his wife or woman.

This is human nature at one level and made worse by the type of society or culture we presently live in and our own lack of understanding of basic black cultural or African teachings you will find in our culture anywhere and we were taught as kids. As my mother use to say most men will never win in a dirty war against w woman so advised her sons to choose very very carefully and keep their eyes open at all times.

So today we have calculating women who have new incentives eg media exposure, big money, quasi independence eg baby mothers where the white man is your daddy not a black man, but his sperm faciliates that process. Yep these are incentives to increase the numbers of ugly and calculating women. But they have always been there and so has been the male punks who are their meal tickets or reason to be.

So the same way there are dishonourable calculating men, there are dishonourable calculating women. A man can woo a bueatiful girl and make her feel as a godess and ride her use her up and leave her and she carries that for the rest of her life. Equally women got moves too.

Neither one is fair from a fundamental point of moral justice. But we are not to know the private utterings of love talk. We can only go from what we know generally about how man and woman operate and in the lack of compelling evidence one way or another draw our conclusions.

Some times it goes for men, in others it goes against men We cannot have it both ways. Furhtermore, regardless of superfical notions of equality, the world does not see us as equal. World culture and civilisation and the billions who make up the world do not see behaviour in that nuetral terms or way. And why should they? Men usually do not behave like women and vice versa.

No civilisation is fool to the behaviour of calculating women. Speak to any feminist worthy of the name and ask them to give you a quick review of the image of women in most cultures. And you will find the image of calculating, shrewd, cold women. Some would say Eve in the Christian bible is the firstarchetype. Doubt it.Never mind Samson and Delia. Not only women who will use their bodies, but calculating old hags who will use their daughters or other women for their ends.

So why are we shocked? Men have to pay the cost of being men or be smart enough to have the knowledge, skills and self-discipline to read the play and act appriately. Crying life is unfair simply ain't going to cut it. Calling for equality even worse. Because we do not have equal expectations and why should we. The men in my family are more likely to eye up and go further with women, even though they have womenthan most of our women. We are more likely to rape, kill or be involved in acts of private or public violence than our women folk.

I differ with you, because my view is this and goes back to the begininig of time, wise men teach their sons about the ways of the world and that includes women generally and certain types of women specifically. How they move, what they want and what they use to get it. It goes with the territory that men will always be under suspicion in particular circumstances, that is how the game goes and if you don't understand it, you will never win or master it.

Look bro. A woman can sexually proposition you, walk into the room in the sexiest under wear and bra, lightly disguised behind some other garment and set the play like a spider and a fly. If you are a man of substance, you will read that play and make the right decisons. Because you know as I have experience not once, that a woman must always be allowed to have her virtue in tact, especially regardless of what took place privately or who did what to who. That is the game.

So if you read wrong and think you will go there and rule out the possiblity of it turning around and bite your arse, well that is your call. Life ain't fair. Remember that. Like the baby mother stuff. Of course men are too blame because female virtue must be protected, even though breeding for man with a woman or wife, does not seem virtuous. But who cares about that, where the game is concerned?

I am sorry to say bro. This does come from the real world. Tell that to brothers in the movement who lost their jobs and high ranking positions when they got played like suckers by a couple of sisters. One of whom had no interest in the brother and was actually making a play for someone else who rebuffed her, as he was no foolwho readthat this sister is "dangerous" and then she started to mess with some other big fish,as a jealousy move and the"patsy"got burnt. Destroyed him and she then handed him over like a wrapped parcel to the real subject of her desire to show her loyalty and how he needed to lighten up because even the big chiefs had their soft spots.

My head of Security would not give a flying XYZ about mitigation if one of his officers got himself into a compromising position. He or she would be finished and gone. My father would not give a toss about mitigation if you got yourself in shit. In fact we have men in my family who got burnt. Nothing drastic (other women) and how do you think the other men viewed them. Punks who do not deserve the respsect of men to this day, because they were so stupid and wreckless. Certain things men could understand other things show you are just a weak fool with no brain and hungry and undiscriminating.

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Mafdet · (#27 (**permalink**))

@Free

Thanks for that infor so it seems this Progesterex is a hoax as you state (I am having probs getting into the link you provided right now so I'll take your word for it until then) but I take it the date rape drug is still in existence?!?!?!?!?

Btw I can't believe you quoted Fredblacks long post just to add the words "Well said" at the end of it. Kunjufu needs to call you a taxi my friend blkfishslap

the soul machine · (#28 (**permalink**))

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@Soulmachine. Have to disagree even though my spirit tells me your words and sentiments are slightly out of sync. No man hasa right to rape a woman. Simple as..Period.....

Never heard an argument which could stand on such a basis. Acting foolish or placing yourself at risk in the worse case, and I am not talking about normal rapes by the way, is one thing. No relationship to a woman bringing rape onto herself. Rape is a male crime. Predominantly. A woman can walk down the road naked and still have the right to not be attacked in that way. As we have the right to call the police to complain there is a naked woman walking down are road, if we are too offended by what is being displayed down our street. But I doubt it though.

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a man who rapes a woman is not a man , and

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where did i say a man has the right to rape a women?confused3. im just saying women should take more responsility for thier actions.and i dont beleive rape is only a male crime by the way.

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where have you been living all this time? avnt you seen cases where many men are falsely accused of rape.iv seen women week after weekleave nightclubs with 5 men to get gang banged, what was going on in these womensr head only God knowns, then you tell me what sensible lady would put her self in that situation.confused2

the soul machine · (#29 (**permalink**))

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Simple as Sir, Simple as set the record straight for all the "closet rapist" that find excuses for their crime

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1stly you dont know me so i hope you aint calling me a rapist.

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2nd you see why i hate children.

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3rd you can see what introducing whitemen to your family can cause it makes you jump into conclusion thinking everyone is as perverted like them, maybe you have seen your sisters husband rape somebody confused3, but i dont im sorry to disappoint you child.

Fredblack · (#30 (**permalink**))

@Ths Soul Machine Don't actually agree with you. Even though I would say Rapist are real men because when you see who rapes there is not one category. But an inferior type of male I would agree. There is superior, average and inferior in every human and soical category as in football or sport.

As I said at the time I think what you meant and how it could have been interpreted could have been misconstrued. I agree with you about female responsibility in shaping how women are valued and portray themselves or how they behave, especially in how they dress etc. But that and raping are not related and that was the point I wanted to make. Remember reading a post about men raping a sister in Swaziland on some thread. Don't know if it is true but apparently the allegations surrounded the fact that they were wearing mini skirtsconfused3.

Rape has nothing to do with how women dress but how certain men think they are entilted to behave. Dressing and rape are different discussions completely and it puts the onus in the wrong direction. Like saying why men don't walk around with condomns when women are the one's who get pregnant.

Regarding your point about where have I been eg to not know that there are many false allegations of rape against men. Bro women beeen making false allegations against men from the begining of time. Shame that because rape is probably the ulimate masculine crime, other than straight out murder.

Probably no comparison to the degree they do today, where the system, media etc actually facilitates it. But nobody is going to convince me that the majority fo rape allegations are false because most women will not report a rape. Me and my people had to deal with a rapist in the making who grabbed the wrong sister in broad day light at a coach trip, where a whole heap of black people were present. She went for walk with him away from the group and my man pushed her into the bushes. She knew the brother for the local area who knew us and apparently was in my brother's year in school.

But the sister comes from black organisational background and was trained by me personally in personal securityregained the initiative very quickly and challenged him and started to kick up the biggest noise and he lost his nerve, as she wasn't going to be taken easily. What did the brother do when we came to visit?. Shit himself obviously. Deny it point blank and acted as if grossly offended that the word rape and him could even be associated. The man's acting skills could take Oscar after Oscar.

Dilema whose word dowe take. No dilema he got taught a very serious lesson about the type of conduct we expect in this manor around particular sisters and worst put it out on the streets that he was a potential rapist which killed him. He moved out the manor very quickly thereafter. But if he was successful, I don't think thatsister would have gone to the police like many others.

But to your point about false allegations. Not dissing sisters but truth is truth. Malcolm X said that he only trusted women 95 percent which pissed some women off big time why. First his Islamic teachings and his knowledge of certain calculating and opportunistic women and how they flex. Secondly, Malcolm was a "womanist" and man who experienced a wide range of women, especially on the streets and was no punk.

Malcolm was speaking in the 60's where black men and women lived better, not in 2004 where we live like pigs in too many cases. If Malcolm was alive today he would have to change his estimate on the amount of black women whose word can be trusted and taken on face value. That is the gutter we now live in where we can no longer simply take a black woman's word on face value, because the concept of female honour or integrity means nothing to significant sections of our women; never mind white women who have been playing this game for god knows how long. Look at the US and how many black men who were killed for associations with white women.

Bro this is about black men knowing who the enemy is or to quote RFYW being on "Enemy watch" to use a security phrase. No use complaining that the opposition is dirty and unethical, that is the nature of the war my friend. It's ugly out there.

If black men ain't too bright and need a lesson we need to look no further than the Judge Clarence Thomas Case or the Tyson cases. Tyson is a product of a particular background and responsible for his decisions. But Tyson got taken to the cleaners, interms of how black women basically lied and set him up like a punk.

Greta VanSustreen, who is the only presenter of class and any type of integrity on US Fox Channel and a highly qualified and experienced attorney in one of the best interviews I have ever seen. Said to Tyson for what it is worth many of her close friends andmembers of the legal elite in the US said theTyson rape trial was one of the biggest travesties of justice even seen in the US. They wouldconvict nobody on that mickey mouse type of evidence.

I beg all serious brothers who have the time and who have any uncertainties about the nature of the war against black men to study carefully the Clarence Thomas case. One of the most important and disgusting pieces of African-American history. There are about five important books on the subject. Two written by feminists and one edited by Toni Morrison and three by award winning political scienitist or experts on US congressional politics and scandals.

Thomas and Anita Hill were lovers for over a decade. Her career was built on his patronage and bedroom antics. He promoted her twice and took him with her as his career developed. She wanted Thomas, who had some dry white woman and in effect like Hill were classic coconuts. Both of whom were Repubicans and right wing in outlook. When it was clear my man was going to the Supreme Court and was not going to leave his white woman which was never on the cards from the off, and could not continue the relationship, because FBI and intelligence services have to vet those guys as that is blackmail mateial, she told her white friend who leaked the story and done him in. You take a mistress once you have the position on the Suprem Court not before. That is how it goes.

WhenThomas spoke about a "modern day lynching" but with a difference eg black women setting up black men for white women to scream rape. He was not joking. One of the nasiest cases in recent times. White women and black women and educated ones at that, and black feminists in particular had a feild day. But all the polls showed that the black male community did not buy it for a second. Over time black women begun to ask questions and backtrack. But the damage was already done.

But what is so disgusting and where Toni Morrison lost a lot of credibility for me, was how quick she and other black female intellectuals were to scream look at black man and what is so revealing was that you would have to be a fool or so prejudiced to the point of blindness to be stupid not to have read it. A woman who is being sexually harrassed does not follow her boss around the country. She chips as soon as she can. She does not wait until a decade to say he use to talk sex talk with her ten years ago and leave out the whole history betweeen them,because they did worse than sex talk.

Anyone with two brain cells could have seen this did not make sense, never mind anyone who has practical experience of dealing with no more than two sexual harrassment cases. It was a joke from the get go. It was a unholy alliance between so called black women representatives, the white and anti black male mediaand white feminists who were also pro Hilary Clinton and her husband, who Thomas did not support. But neither did Anita Hill. Anita Hill threw the brother to the wolves.

Final example from community life not big celebrities, about the type of black women or women out there. A brother close to me, who is a very successful business man, self made man etc, whose ego is bigger than China and as positive as he is when it comes to getting ahead etc is as foolish as they come; especially where women are concerned.

He is almost a stereotype of ghetto fabulous and attracts those kind of women. Most men from decent origins would see through those women in a second, as they are not very sophisticated or difficult to see through once you get pass their psychicality. Them hot and ignorant, angry type of sisters who you see in all those African-American films. Can't take them anywhere decent because you might have to drive a kick up their skirt, because regretably they respond to be treated like animals. How did Jay Z describe in one song after this type of sister saw a brother get violent," she got so turned on she had to shower twice, them kinda girls.." Women coming from cold hard places.

Problem is he ain't that type of brother so setting himself up for licks big time. Worse still he has three baby mothers. Two of whom were fighting for his money and trying to out do each other with kids. But he don't partial because it is an extension of his ego. He is a cheque book dad and think his money will never finish, so condoms ain't his style. I think he must have learned now. Anyway.

Let me tell you about certain brothers and there are too many to count who I know. They want to run life in certain ways. Cool each man to his path, but they can't run the life they want to live or play the game by the rules and play it to the fullness. So if you want to profile like you are street. No problems. Play it my mandon't say it and play it to the max and by the rules of whatever life you live.

Fakes always get burned when push comes to shove and the two 7's clash. And the women they deal with know this from the jump. If you want to run three baby mothers then you better know how to run your shit and lock it down, tightly.

My man met some white guy involved in shady runnings and involved him in some small and foolish move to store some weed. My boy don't smoke weed and is not involved in weed and doesn't need the money. But the way he burns and throws it around only god knows. The man has never been involved with the law, and to make it worsethe man is much older than me and decides at this time in life he wants to be an outlaw.

What does he do? He is too lazy to clear out his lock ups and he has quite a few of them with all kinds of things related to his legit business. So he asks one of his baby mothers to let him rent a spare room in her flat or house. No problem. Of course one day he and baby mother get into to something and this hot head woman decideds to fix him. Goes to the police and tells them that my man is storing drugs in her place.

But here is where you seea black man who has no self respect and wonders why he commands neither love, respect or genuine feeling or authority, neither fear from these women. You got to have one or the other or some combination thereof, especially in my business.

The whole case against him was based on the evidence of his second baby mother who sang like a bird with pure spite and hatred in her heart. People could not believe it and were taking time off work to see with their own eyes whether the woman could be so bold face and she was. She was on the stand for the best part of a week killing this brother slowly or quickly.

The prosectuion portrayed my man like he was some yardie gangster and he got seven years for his first offence. It almost killed him and the amount of money he lost was unbelievable because he had to sell some of his best properties. The sentence was an amount of money, serious amount and seven years. If he did not have the money he would have got more.

The man's name was in the papers like some mafia don. Meand my bredrin were rolling around on thefloor. You a mafia don and yourchild's mother can be so bareface and without any fear of comeback to slay you like that. This is a man who has failed by all accounts except making money and definietly knows nought how to keep it.

We know the type of women out there. But theyalso know the type of fool fool black man who does not value his position or sweat or his future. Yes there are always pure and genuine victims where good people through no fault of their own meet bascially evil people. But they I think are far and few between.

This brother like so many were foolish in their decision making, very poor judges of character and situation and had nobody who were genuine friends to have their backs. Needy men are a danger to themselves and all those around them, because they make poor decisions when there are always more options available to them which protects and does not expose them.

If you are playing any games in life you have to understand the rules and protect your own self interests as a black man and do not leave it at the mercy of others. Nothng about fairness. Its about winning and being able to avoid the many death traps waiting to consume black men. This is an elite sport my man like war, those who can get through to the various obstacle courses and trip wires and booby trap join the team and those who don't well.... Life. And their are a whole heap of tricky women trying to side track a brother away from the real princesses in this life. So no matter on what level black men have to be smart and tough in the persuit of the good things in life.

So it is not that I do not inhabit the real world. Far from simply understand the rules of engagement as in any area of potential human conflict.

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runfromyourwife · (#31 (**permalink**))

[align=left]Well, well - they seem to think I have run out of argument. They seem to think that my righteuos outrage at hypocrisy and insult means they've either scored or made -

a point!

Let's deal with mr Ijexa -

First!

mr Ijexa says:

Put it this way... if you are the person who you think you are... and have the ability and intelligence to deal with it...

So what's your point here?

What person do I think I am?

Who have I claimed to be?

Is that some kind of attempt at dismissal by one of the Blacknet "royalty".

So what is it - who I am to have an opinion that differs from that of the Blacknet elite?

>>>>KISS TEET<<<<<<

Sorry dude!

I'm not some fawning illiterate who is easily impressed by self appointed "wise men" with a good line in spiel.

So... if you disagree with Mr Black... then... the floor is yours...

Yes indeed - and where I disagree with him you or anyone else - taking the floor and any other spoils to be taken, is exactly what I intend to do.

If you have the wherewithall... subsume and reduce his arguements... exposing all it's flaws...

Whether I do or not is a matter of opinion - obviously in yours I don't.

But's let's assume your right and that I am unable to mount an adeqaute to your friends arguments.

That still does not make him - Right!

It only proves that I, Runfromyourwife can't show him to be wrong.

Actually - What it really proves is that what he says is more popular than what I say, since people tend to dismiss the wisdom of those whom they are hostile to.

Indeed here on Blacknet anti-black male phobia seems to be the order of the day. However in other quarters I have no doubt that what I say would be regarded as having more than satisfactorily -

"subsumed and reduced his arguements... exposing all it's flaws..."

:-)

>>>>>KISS TEET<<<<<<

Won't be easy... Mr Black is almost invariably spot on... Believe me... he's is objectively and intellectually in terms of the depth and breadth of his analysis... near enough 99% correct...

I actually agree with much of what mr Fredblack says and even where I disagreed initially, I have accepted the logic of some of the thingsthe man has said- but I wouldn't say the man is "spot on" 99% of time.

Such - uncritical approval borders on fanaticism in my view. Almost cultish worship. [/align]

[align=left]LOL!

One final thought to you mr Ijexa and all the other confused souls who might wonder, to quoteyou mr Ijexa -

"who I think I am"

I'm just a real Black Man untainted by the isms that seem to haveinfected So many Black minds. I aintintimidated by no alleged "intellect", I'm a Black Man who thinks for himself and isn't afraid to swim against the tide and confront the leaders of the mob who would have any Black Man, whether guilty or innocent, swinging from the nearest tree by his testicles.

So -

Whilst you may cast aspersions on my character -

Don't under estimate my strength of character.

Keep preaching to Sheeple!
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[align=center]>>>Shakes Head<<<<

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Fredblack · (#32 (**permalink**))

@RFYW brother what are you talking about. For real. We are having an interesting discussion and then you just flip and now you come back talking about righteous anger.confused3And about you are being insulted by who and what I ask myself.

Bro people can only come to conclusions from your behaviour and read in between the lines for themselves. Given there was no insult directed at you what are we to conclude?

Strange....and what is funny very few people on this Forum insult people like you, but of course that can be justified and when no insult is directed at you, you see insult.

Hard work....So rather than deal with the debate youprefer to attempt to diss another. Boy....

FB