Rockette,

If she has a biracial kid and she's hurling those insults toward it, her kid should be taken away from her. Strangely, it's considered to be abusive to hurl any kid of insult like that and non-racial insult like that. If I married a non-Black man and if he purposely did that to my kid, I don't think I would want to be with him. To me , if you are racist toward my kid, you are being racist towards me. That man, either don't know what kid of woman she is or he is just a straight up fool being with her!She's causing that kid a lot of damage.

Honestly, I have never came across a White mom/dad who did that to their kids, unless I don't know them. I've witnessed some instances where I've seen an South Indian dad telling his wife " You White(people are trash"and around his daughter, a Black man calling hisanother White man a "cracker" in front of his White wife's faceI had a neighbor to tell my brother that a White woman hedatedin New Mexico " called him the "N", he has no kids. In some really weird reserved cases, I had one White friend( and I mentioned her once or twice), who said she would disapprove of any White man dating her children ( by a Black man)because I quote " I was sexually molested by stepfather and father and my mother put that B-----before me and my siblings!"--no joke! When I asked about dating other races she fine with it especially a Black man because her African-born foster parents raised her. I talked with my former teacher from time to time, who was also her teacher. The last that she heard from her, she was a teacher, teaching a Black school( her request) and living a Black neighborhood. She really had a strong hatred of White people in spite of her being White and please don't call her White, she'll tell you that she's Native American( not the blond haired Swedish American that she truly is)I even remembered she even saying that she liked NOI and hoped that her kids would get in it. I only nodded my head in disbelief when she said that. I thought that she was so troubled about her rape and being White, I thought that she needed counseling, but I never told her that.

Yep! I seen a few instances from these angles, but it's never good for a kid to hear that kid of one sided hatred, no matter what. I often wonder about my White friend, how are her kids. Yes, I can say that maybe their transition may be more simplified because they are people of color and they recognized as African-Americans or multiracial in my state, but it can still hurt those kids. I mean here they are possibly hating White people and people going aroud telling them Man, What White man/woman was your parent?" and then at they end the very people you downed are part of your bloodline. Wow! I imagine that it's even worse for that kid. If he's one of those kids who can pass, just imagine that the kid going thorugh life thinking he's White , when he's actually. Remember that bizarre article that a poster put up about that Black man, who looked Black and thought that he was White?! Look at some of the problems his mother caused him with her rcist views.

I was thinking about my sister's best friend, who is married to a Latino( though he could pass for White). She doesn't like her husband and wants to divorce him and she hates his family. She also doesn't like her parents, who are Jamaican. She has 3 kids, one who is Black, the other two are biracial. She said that there would be a time that she was casual about using the " n" word in conversation, but after all of her kids were born, she decided not to say it anymore. She thought that it would be racially harmful to all three of them, especially, the Black one because, she's only surrounded around Latino people.I've only had one interracial relationship with an Asian( Pakastani) man, the rest have been Black. If I would have had kids with his man and he would have done what that woman is doing to her kid , I wouldn't be that thrilled about being around him. Even with medating a Black man--he's African bred. Even if my kids were of mixed nationalities, it still wouldn't be right to hurl anti- African sentiments around the kid because, the kid would be mixed and confusion can be a problem for them.Colorstrikeness is in my family. I hate it and told my mother that if I even have a Black( American or not American) or biracial, I don't think that I would want my kid to be exposed to them because they would ethnicallymess' em up ( like my racially grandfather once told my parents about growing up in a mixed neighborhood). Children should have a healthy sense of who they are and it's not possible for that happen when mommy or daddy disses their hal or whole self.

Hello everyone this is my first post, and I have to say this topic STINKS, it is an insult to black history! If you are the descendant of slaves can we remember the ebony, the quadroon, & the mulatto beaten, raped, and held in bondage, whether dark, red, “high yaller�, All slaves despite their mix, all under the banner “black “ all so called “ni**ers, our ancestors. The descendants of them, YOU, all having these biracial kin in your family tree. This is history, our history. Divide an rule through petty divisions has kept us in bondage long after the chains were taken off, read “willie lynchs�(1712) slavers speech if you don’t believe me, find it on the net it an eye-opener. As for the one drop rule it was a RASCIST rule used to keep anyone with black in them, in servitude to white people. I cannot believe that 400 years later there are black people, now trying to reverse apply it on this site. The descendants of slaves are mixed blood, how can we get involved in dna snobbery? The slavers were racist, lets not mimic them! For you are all Africans, Africa is where humanity came from, follow it to its logical conclusion all races however unruly are your children. There are many white men right now scared of the dilution of their race by these mixed children, remember the one drop rule he made it not us! The African has been raided and its women raped, by the arab for 11 centuries, and the european for 4 centuries and still the African exists, though complexions and features vary, the African will always be here! Black is unique in that it is a consciousness firstly, and not a skin colour, it is who we are the sum of our history, and what we are second. So called ‘uncle toms’ and ‘sell outs’ are still reviled today. because of this. I shall tell you now that I am mixed, half white blood-half black blood, like Frederick douglass, bob Marley, George William Gordon, Dubois…………and your ancestors, and yes I do consider myself black! I am pro black, not anti-white, just honest about history an its implications on me. My children range from dark to brownskin, just like yours, I was raised and suckled by a black woman just like you, I lived with my black family just like you, I was chased, had fights, got beaten, called ni**er, c**n, by white people just like you! if you want to put me in some separate racial group, please tell that to the ‘white’ man when he calls me ni**er, or the police when they pull me over for nothing, and tell me ‘were all the bloody same’. Life would get a hell of a lot easier.
I agree with many of you about those mixed race individuals, who are lost, trying to be part of some IDEALISTIC sub-race, or be white—(reality) only few can pass, an they will always be called ‘ni**ers’ behind their back, they just don’t seem to realise it. We should also remember those lost so called ‘full-blooded’ individuals, who hate all of us more than the ‘kkk’ & the ‘bnp’ , who are only happy, when joining in the slander of black people, many of these also identify more with ‘white’ people. However it is not necessarily these peoples fault as mostly, they are born and raised in ignorance & misinformation. Anyway, WE WERE ALL forced rather uncomfortably, it seems, judging by some of the posts, under the broad banner of ‘BLACK’ by the slave-trade. It is to our credit we have made it something to be proud off! Something that indicates our AFRICANNESS, and yet something that is the opposite of ‘WHITE’, and its ludicrous idea of racial purity. There will always be ‘BLACK’ lost individuals, whatever complexion or blood mix, sorry if you come across them, but they are just that lost, and not a reason to single groups out, and divide us any futher with the kind of petty infighting that has suppressed us for centuries.
Half my family comes from Jamaica a country born out of the slave-trade, an on the flag it says ‘out of many we are one’, think about it!
Like I said this topic STINKS.

melaninbrain wrote:
Wow, I can just feel such strong emotion coming from your words. I agree that those who contributed to our advancement as a people were few of the mixed race background. I have nothing against mixed race people. My aunt or as I liked to call her big momma before she passed, was a woman from a white and black background. She ended up identifying with black people, and lived as a black woman. She had a kind heart and worked hard to raise her daughter alone. I admired her strength of character and the fact that she never forgot where she came from. I'll love her always. Even so there are people I would not associate with that are mixed race. Those people are on the ones who hate black people, and believe in white supremacy. Just like I will not associate with whites, blacks, asians, etc who feel the same way about my people. I have learned that it's time to let people who do not want to be a part of the black family go, and mind our business. The individuals who wish to disassociate themselves from black people, are the ones doing less harm to black people and more harm to themselves. All in all, during the day and even before I rest my head mixed race people are surely the last thing on my mind. They are also the last thing on my mind when I wake up the next day. What do I really think of mixed race/biracial people? Nah, the question to be asked is what do mixed race/biracial people think of themselves?

Melaninbrain

I am also disappointed with some of the opinions of the posters to this topic. I have several mates of mix heritage and they are good people to me and they feel part of black culture.

If mix heritage people feel more white than black then that is usually because they only mix with white people. A consequence of where they were brought up.

I refuse to use the term race as I only believe in the human race; anything else is fabricated rubbish and with black people continuing to use this term, it is only helping to reinforce the racist ideology.

Why is this question even being asked? Let the individual define his or her own self. And besides, most diasporans have mixed blood as well as man continentals. I heard that the average AA alone has 17-20% European blood.

As for my experience though, I have quite a few biracial cousins, and I see them as biracial because it respects both of their parentages.

I know someone who has a Malais mother and a Black father. The mother is Malais Chinese (Indian and Sri Lankan are some of the other major ethnic groups in Malaysia).

However, this person insists categorically that he is Black, and not mixed race. In effect, has this person denied half his ethnic make-up, genetics, ancestry and cultural heritage?

Or is it essentially down to what he grows up with. If his mother teaches him Malais or Madarin, if she brings him up on Malais cuisine (as oppose to rice 'n' fry bake), does he cease to be Black and become Mixed-race or even Malais. Is it purely the fact that he listens to Rap and r'n'b, dresses in Avirex and talks the lingo that makes him Black and not mixed-race?

Ansers on a postcard.

I agree wiv 'stranger' on this subject I am mixed race myself an identify myself as black not white . And and thnkin about it all of the people I know look at me as a black person not white. Its not for anyone else to say if someone is black or not it is what that person feels they are.

~Mixed ~ Butterfly~

Mixed Race people are getting a better deal today thanks to Music and the Media representation but they still have serious identity issues mainly due to a good number left to be catered for by the YT mother MTV Base and Channel U is not Black Culture!!...however people should plan and think of the cultural implications of getting involved in a IR Relationships it requires a good amount of maturity and brutal honesty if not it would always be the one sided loop like we have in the UK

Quote about Lewis Hamilton in the papers today:

"Why does every news bulletin about Brit hero Lewis Hamilton have to go on about him being a role model and hero to black youths?
I'm sorry but he's mixed race.
If I were to say he was a real role model to whites I would be up on a charge.

It's all PC nonsense.

Lewis is as much white as blackand, most important ly, he's just British.

He's a bloddy role model to ALL kids"

So I guess white people do see mixed race people as part of their culture or maybe its just the ones with an earning potential of 50m +.

Just because mulatto people define themselves as black doesn't mean they are.