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Well, that's good that most mulattos end up marrying whites. Our gene pool does not need to be diluted any further.
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Well, that's good that most mulattos end up marrying blacks. Our gene pool does not need to be diluted any further.
Isn't it funny that just a change of one word makes that a racist statement. One which coming out of a White persons mouth would cause people here to shout blue murder.
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Two thoughts - first it takes all sorts to make the world and two, is it me but do most mixed race people (black and white parents) have black dads?

People are people, this finger pointing only shows our weakness which I guess makes us normal - we can't afford to be!
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Two thoughts - first it takes all sorts to make the world and two, is it me but do most mixed race people (black and white parents) have black dads?

People are people, this finger pointing only shows our weakness which I guess makes us normal - we can't afford to be!
Thankyou! The point is people of all races are individuals within their own race. You could just as likely find a mixed person who only dates and mainly hangs around blacks as you will someone with two African parents who only dates whites.

You're right about the father being black most of the time. I don't know how true it is but I've heard about an interesting theory in a race and gender class I took in college that defines a gender, racial social ladder or hierarchy that looks like this:

white men

white women
black men

black women


If you notice, the white men are at the top, black women are on the lowest rung, and white women and black men are neck and neck but both below the white men. It's more likely that with their similar social status (according to this theory) which may include pay and job availability etc., they are closer together, whereas the gap between the white men and black women is significantly wider, which makes it appear that it would be less likely for them to come together in social situations than it would be for the white women/black men.

I haven't been able to find anymore information on this theory, so if anyone knows anything about it, or it's name that would be helpful. I'm not sure how much I agree with this theory since I don't have more information on what it's based on, but it's an interesting one nonetheless.


CHI, you don't have to change a damn thing about that sentence to make it a racist statement. Racism is racism, plain and simple.
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Afriki....yes I know the original statement was just as racist, thats why I picked up on it. The only thing is that lots of Black people have a blind spot where our own racism is concerned.
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Afriki....yes I know the original statement was just as racist, thats why I picked up on it. The only thing is that lots of Black people have a blind spot where our own racism is concerned.
oh, ok. gotcha
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Thankyou! The point is people of all races are individuals within their own race. You could just as likely find a mixed person who only dates and mainly hangs around blacks as you will someone with two African parents who only dates whites.

You're right about the father being black most of the time. I don't know how true it is but I've heard about an interesting theory in a race and gender class I took in college that defines a gender, racial social ladder or hierarchy that looks like this:

white men

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black men

black women


If you notice, the white men are at the top, black women are on the lowest rung, and white women and black men are neck and neck but both below the white men. It's more likely that with their similar social status (according to this theory) which may include pay and job availability etc., they are closer together, whereas the gap between the white men and black women is significantly wider, which makes it appear that it would be less likely for them to come together in social situations than it would be for the white women/black men.

I haven't been able to find anymore information on this theory, so if anyone knows anything about it, or it's name that would be helpful. I'm not sure how much I agree with this theory since I don't have more information on what it's based on, but it's an interesting one nonetheless.


CHI, you don't have to change a damn thing about that sentence to make it a racist statement. Racism is racism, plain and simple.
don't know about that theory.. white men have had easy access to black women for few centuries now and it still seems to be the case.


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It is a fact the most bi racial individuals who are half black and half White English do end up marrying White people.

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Is this trend affected by our perception of them?

How does this affect our perception of them?

Is this an indication of their perception of Black people and themselves?

How do we examine future implications of the current trend of the very high proportion of young Black men having children with white women in light of this?
In my opinion the future looks mixed. The Asians are not having any of it and god knows where black people will be in say 20 years time.

Among people who described their ethnic group as ‘Other’, 56 per cent of women and 34 per cent of men had married outside their ethnic group and most had married a White person. This Other group includes people from the Philippine Islands, Malaysia, Japan, Vietnam and various middle-eastern countries.

People who described their ethnic group as ‘Other Black’, largely young Black people born in Britain, were the next most likely to be married to someone outside their ethnic group, followed by Black Caribbean people. Almost five in ten Other Black men (48 per cent) and three in ten Black Caribbean men (29 per cent) were married to women outside the Black ethnic group, in most cases White women.


The sensus is dated 2001 and I'm sure the 'trend' has increased since. I wonder what the unmarried partner percentages are?
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don't know about that theory.. white men have had easy access to black women for few centuries now and it still seems to be the case.
yes, but I don't think it's intended to gauge "access" so much as "relateability"

According to the ladder both white women and black men are below the white male in terms of social standing, and closer together in that same aspect. But like I said, i have no idea w/out knowing more about this "study".
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yes, but I don't think it's intended to gauge "access" so much as "relateability"

According to the ladder both white women and black men are below the white male in terms of social standing, and closer together in that same aspect. But like I said, i have no idea w/out knowing more about this "study".
I think you both are correct. The 'relateability', component that exists between Black men and white women exists because of their respective relationships in the hiearchy as you listed it, plus there was CONSIDERED effort historically to keep them away from each other,(another area of commonality). 'Relateability' has never really played a role when it came to BLack women and white men, because most of the time(at least historically), it was not mutually consensual or based on 2 equal parties agreeing to be together sexually. In other words, when there is force and or coercion involved, or a total and complete power imbalance between 2 parties, who needs relateability? It was more of a white man 'entitilement'. Black women either succumbed to the force, the coercion, or dealt with consequences of not doing so.

Now that Black women have a real CHOICE, lack of 'relateability' is highlighted and NOTICEABLE, is an obstacle or impediment even, when it wasn't before, cause nobody (least of all the white men who felt entitled to that sexual access),cared whether Black women "related" to/liked/desired or were attracted to white men or not. Now that we actually have some SAYSO, we are way less inclined towards going that route than Black men are. As IR dating/marriage data bears out. It is precisely because of that history that this is the case.

Though that is diminshing as we a. get further away from those days and that past, and b. Black men continue to do go that route at a ratio of 3 to 1 over Black women(in the U.S. anyway- Meaning , when IR relationships occur, 75% of the time it's a Black man/white woman/25% of the time it's Black women/white men),and Black women have started to take on the "if you can't beat em join em" mindset,lol.


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Isn't it funny that just a change of one word makes that a racist statement. One which coming out of a White persons mouth would cause people here to shout blue murder.
I mean to say whites. I feel so embarrassed. I don't care about what whites say anyway.
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In my opinion the future looks mixed. The Asians are not having any of it and god knows where black people will be in say 20 years time.

Among people who described their ethnic group as ‘Other’, 56 per cent of women and 34 per cent of men had married outside their ethnic group and most had married a White person. This Other group includes people from the Philippine Islands, Malaysia, Japan, Vietnam and various middle-eastern countries.

People who described their ethnic group as ‘Other Black’, largely young Black people born in Britain, were the next most likely to be married to someone outside their ethnic group, followed by Black Caribbean people. Almost five in ten Other Black men (48 per cent) and three in ten Black Caribbean men (29 per cent) were married to women outside the Black ethnic group, in most cases White women.


The sensus is dated 2001 and I'm sure the 'trend' has increased since. I wonder what the unmarried partner percentages are?



This is awful. I mean really awful. I doubt we'd be mixed up anyway.
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This is awful. I mean really awful. I doubt we'd be mixed up anyway.
Btw those figures were taken from the UK population so I would doubt the USA is anywhere near as bad.

But, I have noticed another new trend. It's called the "former white female partner kicking the black husbands ass". Yes it seems the white female partners are kicking their black husbands to the touchline.