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04-09-08, 06:03 PM
I am certainly no proponent of Islam, but there is a solid point being made here...
A Luta Continua—Lasima Tushinde Mbilishaka
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05-09-08, 03:58 AM
I totally agree with this clip this should'nt just be for black americans all black folks should be heeding this message ,this is nothing new its just too bad some of us chose not to listen.
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05-09-08, 02:41 PM
Intresting hearing another person comment on our plight, the Arabs have been attempting to create a common cause between us for a while, Bin Ladens last speech had him calling to 3rd world nations to oust the neo imperialists and so on but its all too contradictory considering that the Arabs have their mind slaves working for them in the same way the europeans have theirs and have had them working, fighting and killing their own for much longer than the europeans... would say that the Arabs are even better at it which is causing a problem for the West as well as the fact that its Harram [sp] to borrow money from institutions, guess that one was to help keep the Jews off of their backs but it dosen't bode well with western ''culture'' its all a bit of an idealogical conflict in my opinion.
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06-09-08, 07:00 AM
The content of what he's saying is still true though regardless of whether its an arab or not.
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06-09-08, 05:32 PM
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The content of what he's saying is still true though regardless of whether its an arab or not.
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Right, which is why I posted it. However, we must be mindful of our history so that we don't fall for the spin the Arab put on the history of our being in the Diaspora. He stated that most of our ancestors "may have been Muslims." This is a half-truth. Initially, the Muslims (Arabs and converted Afrikans) enslaved the "pagan" Afrikans and sold them to Europeans. Even most of those converted Afrikan Muslims were done so by the edge of the sword or born into it from "shot-gun weddings".
Only after Europeans wanted to eliminate the Muslim middle-men (cutting into "profits") did the Europeans start to directly enslave Muslims themselves either through direct warfare or supplying weapons to their bitter enemies whom they had sold into slavery prior. This happened so much so, that quite a few Arabs were "exonerated" or released from servitude in the United States, Brazil, Jamaica, and other places in the Diaspora because they weren't "black Africans".
So don't fall for the half-truths about our ancestors being Muslims.
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07-09-08, 12:48 AM
I'm personally not interested in anything they have to say so anything that comes out his mouth is unimportant to me. All he's doing is stating the bleeding obvious.
He reminds me of those same extremists who use Malcolm X's name as a ruse to lure young Africans into fighting their battles and eventually blowing themselves up for the arab dem cause. In actuality they (muslim/arab extremists) hate both Malcolm X and the confused young Africans for being African and insult them in their mosques all the time.
I bet this nasty wretch in the video wouldn't want a 'black' American muslim man to go anywhere near his daughters.
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07-09-08, 07:07 PM
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He reminds me of those same extremists who use Malcolm X's name as a ruse to lure young Africans into fighting their battles and eventually blowing themselves up for the arab dem cause. In actuality they (muslim/arab extremists) hate both Malcolm X and the confused young Africans for being African and insult them in their mosques all the time.
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Hmmmm.... and the last thing they'll ever do is recognize the N.O.I as being anything Muslim, which is why they'll talk about M.X but not the others, a Mohamed Ali quote would have helped him make his point there but hes not about to get into that ring.
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08-09-08, 07:09 PM
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Hmmmm.... and the last thing they'll ever do is recognize the N.O.I as being anything Muslim, which is why they'll talk about M.X but not the others, a Mohamed Ali quote would have helped him make his point there but hes not about to get into that ring.
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Well, why should they recognize the NOI? They at least have some sense in that area, as opposed to most Afrikan people adopting the deities (Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, etc.) of every other race of people but their own. The NOI preaches of divinity in the so called "black" man, whom the Arabs (Muslim & Christian) deem to be "raisin heads", "slaves" (by definition of the word abeed), amongst other derogatory names. The very Hadiths they read studiously describes Muhammad as a "white" man and describes "blacks" as unworthy of respect like other human beings (except under special circumstances).
It is funny how we could see it to be pathological for an Arab to adopt the theological precepts of the Nation of Islam (Black Muslims), yet Afrikans don't see it just as pathological (if not more so) to adopt Arab-Islam, Christianity, Hebrewism, or other non-Afrikan religions.
The last thing I want to say is the reason Arabs recognize brother Malcolm X or el Hajj Malik el Shabazz is because he distanced himself from the NOI to practice orthodox Islam...which only underscores what I've stated above in this post.
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09-09-08, 10:28 AM
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Well, why should they recognize the NOI? They at least have some sense in that area, as opposed to most Afrikan people adopting the deities (Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, etc.) of every other race of people but their own. The NOI preaches of divinity in the so called "black" man, whom the Arabs (Muslim & Christian) deem to be "raisin heads", "slaves" (by definition of the word abeed), amongst other derogatory names. The very Hadiths they read studiously describes Muhammad as a "white" man and describes "blacks" as unworthy of respect like other human beings (except under special circumstances).
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The NOI are just another Muslim, ''sect'' with their own interpretation of the Koran none of them are more bonafide than the next (except the Saudis .lol.) from the chinese muslims to the russian/east european followers, Indian ''pakistanis'' and others of course the NOI pushes the wacky bar slightly further than most .lol have heard the way Muslims talk about the them and, well... that being said they do show solidarity with some, went to a meeting once and they were talking about some Palestinian they had in the room with them at the time.
Passionate misleading speeches, snide jabs at African Traditionalists and Kemitologists etc .lol. Do respect them to a certain extent shows what can be done, kind of like a vision of how things could be if you look past the dodgy ties and suits.
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09-09-08, 01:02 PM
Bismillaah. Salaam/Peace. Will watch the video later (after it DL's). I don't know much about Arab Islam. I follow AL-Qur'an. Allah, The Eternal, The Capable, The High Exalted, wants righteous, pious, Lovers of goodness. It is not about ethnicity. Allah, The Righteous, The Dominant, Loves Good Abundantly. Are we back to Arab worship again? Such thinking is idolatrous. You will answer to Allah, The Hidden, The Manifest, for your lack of respect! Desist! The Arabs are only fifteen percent, of the Islamic community. It is Allah The Most Compassionate, The Most Merciful, Whom teaches Al-Qur'an. I apologize if I sound like i'm preaching.
If anyone is interested in Elijah Muhammad PBUH, and His teachings see: http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/
By the way Shemsi en Tehuti, the word abeed, gives the following translation: Abeedah Worshipper.
The word you might be looking for is: Abd
servant, worshipper, slave. Muslims consider themselves servants and slaves of God. A common Muslim name is Abd'allah/Abdullah, or Servant of Allah.
The Muslims Internet Directory: Arabic to English Dictionary [Arabic to English Dictionary]
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09-09-08, 09:50 PM
Bismillaah. Salaam/Peace. The Muslim, speaker is referencing the words of brother Malcolm, as it applies to the situation in Afghanistan today. He asks, why are negros fighting the Muslims, in Afghanistan? My question is who, exactly, is leading the world from Washington! 017.004 And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Book, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance (and twice would they be punished)! Al-Qur'an, 017.004 (Al-Isra [Isra, The Night Journey, Children of Israel]). Washington is being punished for its arrogance in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
2:190. Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. Pickthal's Quran Translation.
The excuse for these attacks, was the so-called "attack," on the WTC, in 2001. I am now pretty well convinced, that the aircraft that hit the towers was flown by some American "crazies." The psychopaths, mentioned in an article I'd recently read: "Twilight Of The Psychopaths."
The Canadian National Newspaper: Twilight of the Psychopaths
Originally, I assumed that the aircraft were radio controlled. As planned, the innocent Muslims, were blamed for this foolishness.
Peace. OriginalBM
Last edited by OriginalBM; 12-09-08 at 09:59 PM.
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