What happened to good old respect for our elders...

I don't know you tell me Menzer confused3

hey the amount of black people ive see in old people homes...reminds me when i was working for a local council doing engineering stuff.. nuff black old people in those places/not good at all..

I just feel that there used to be aline between young and old... and no matter whether you knew this person who was older than you you would always address them in a polite manner... if an arguement were to brew, there would be an instant respect to listen, also swearing or smoking in front of elders was a no no... now!!! people just do not give a dam... I used to think growing up... well no matter what, my parents were always safe coz people my age wouldn't think about troubling old folks.. but it's seems as though anything goes....

@Menzer

Your quite right our youths today are in a sorry state.....and although there are alot of factors such as parents don't want to instill discipline I also can't help thinking that the merging of our culture into the typical British culture plays a factor. The reason I say this is because I am seeing many black children disrespecting their elders in the same manner that I only witnessed from white children to their elders as a child....I am not making this up when I was a child I only heard/saw white showing such lack of respect from their elders and as for seeing blacks in a old peoples home that was unheard off in my childhood. I think things that are being accepted as the norm is a sad lost to our race. Now I know you addressed elders and didn't mention race but as I have said before on this site I (Mafdet) only speak in regards to my race. I know this is slightly off topic but I was reading a music mag the other day and one new group was being interviewed and the question of favourite food was asked and right there in black and white showed the white singer to say her favourite food is rice peas and chicken and the two black singers said burgers and chips and kebab ain't that something. Like I said we seem to be adopting the crap end of this culture merge ha ha smoking-devil Thats my views maybe I have taken it too far out from the spectrum but where is this disrespect coming from and why is it not in the days when our parents were raising us.....not giving away my age I hopeniceone.gif

Hi Madfet... I feel we are in the same age group or generation if not we be very close.. but what is worrying me is that people in our age group or generation are showing this same disrespect to elders. Do you remember if a as a child you disrespect an elder you own parent would buss you up, nowadayz if a child disrespect an elder the parents are willing to back the child up subconsciously handing over the power to the child...

I also remember a time when it was ok for a parent or elder to beat or tellyour child off if they saw them on the street going on a way, do it now and your ass is in court and a phat cheque on it's way for compensation..

I feel discipline needs to be re enforced in our community and parents backed up by other parents whether the child likes it or not... Children are feeling like they are on the same level as the parent.. and in this day of age with so much available education the parent should be skooling the child.,.. but I have seen in many cases the child skooling the parent and as a result the parent has lost control.

Also another facator in this, is the child wants more.... they watch TV and want the high life and are not taught the value of raising a family and a future and also the fact that this take time, in turn they will turn their backs on their own family. This is only heard of from western values, but living in the west this has become the norm.

We may not have liked the way we were brought up when we was growing up, butI can assure you I am very grateful for the way my parents brought me up with their values... it's just a shame that our mentally of freedom has to pay a price with our children.

All I can say is if you are a parent... A simple thing in life to extend to our children is to respect your elders... A lot of children are more wiser to things that happen nowadays but nothing is more clear cut than experience.... and that is why they should listen, heed and respect their elders...

Menzer, Mafdet: A quick aside..is this the moment that I order you two a zimmer frame..just a thought

Well considering, i have a pinched nerve in my back.. called sciatia or summink like dat... order me a platinum zimmer with a bell, built in wireless laptop, drinks machine and a BMW badge slapped on the the front grill ;-)

I dont think its so much that people have less respect for their elders, i think they have less respect for people full stop. thats what i have noticed at least.

I have to add that my kids have respect towards their elders, they dont get a choice in that!!!! lol


only people my son has no respect for beleive it or not is teenagers, he told me once that he is dreading being one because they are all horrible. Which i had to of course explain that not all teenagers are bad etc, but thats his observation *sigh*

i just got sent this link and after reading it thought maybe i should share it in here as its kind of on topic....

http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/God.htm

I'm not in any way religious but i think the basic morals still hit home, worth the read

Yeah i hear what you lot are talking about, but as Ms Understood said it is a general lack of respect for everyone.

I went into a black owned jewellery store the other day and i was talking to the woman, her daughter just bust into the shop with her big weave and school uniform and interrupted us by demanding her mum give her £30 for some top that she had paid adeposit on because the shopkeeper said he wasn't holding it any longer.

Her mum told her to wait but the girl kept cussing, so the mum said she is not giving her the money. The daughter (school pickney!!!) started to cuss her mum and the mum was not saying nothing!!!

Now what you can do at home is one thing, but what you allow your kids to do in front of people is a next!!!! I had to tell the girl she have totalk to her mother better than that. I could not take it anymore!!!! That girl was so lucky she did not have a mum like mine!! When my mum finish with her she would have one row of weave left on her head, and the rest tied around her neck, but school uniform would have been intact!!!

After this me and the mum resumed our conversation and her response was rolling her eyes and saying "kids", and i was thinking in my head 'Not mine!!!!!'

The lack of respect is due to many parents laziness and tolerance of nonsense.

I have a big woman friend and she has a young daughter that is SO rude, i cannot stand her and she is only 4 (i feel bad to say that but it is true), i call her Damiena!!

When you're at the house the child will see you watching something and just change the channel!!!, she will answer back, cuss, keep telling everyone to shoosh if we (the adults) are talking, she has even got a belt to try and hit me with because i told her off for dashing drink in her 18 year old sisters face.!!!! When she come with the belt all morals of not physically reprimanding anyones child just went out of the window. I DRAGGED her up, and told her mum, and the mum said good. If this is aged 4 and she dont feel no way to even tell her grandma to shutup, how will she be when he she is 16????

Peace~

@Iyallah

You know you are right very often I see mothers and fathers talking to their children like they are all the same age and there is no line of authority there. Only today I heard a child ask her daddy a question to something she was pointing at and when the day didn't answer this girl caused a scence....I felt to slap her then remember she was no my child lol.

I also hear alot of parents say they won't discipline there children the way their parents disciplined them because they didn't like it......and I have to say these are the children that are the worst behaved confused3....I wonder why that is. I say it over and over again parents need to take more responsiblity and play a more active part in their childs upbringing...its not just about clothing them and feeding them that many seem to think.

I was with a friend thelast monthand we stopped by her friend who has a boy child this boy was so out of order the mother couldn't even control him......he took my friends bag as soon as she entered the house and threatened to throw it over the balcony. I stood there in shock and silence until he threatened to take my bag as well and do the same thats when I told him do it only if he is prepared to go over the balcony with it. The mother just stood there I told my friend I am leaving and if she wants me to still drop her home I suggest she come out of this mad house immediately....and then I left....not before telling the mother that the son will one day take of her knickers and beat her with it. I just heard today that the boy took a knife to his own mother and he is only 9 years old. That is a disaster waiting to happen.

All I could say on hearing the news is where is the father and other members of the family to help discipline this child and how did it get to that stage confused3, as this child has no one ounce of respect for anyone.