What organistions are there dedicated to African interests out there in the UK/Diasporia. Everyone's got there own take on how we deal with the worldwide situation we are in.
What people out there are involved in "postive" organisations for AFRICAN/BLACK people. How many brothers and sisters out there feel a need for an outlet/formal entitity to combat the fight we African people face.Recommendations/ reasons/experiances/ without denigrading other organisations would be most welcome. Where does a so called concious man/woman express their desire to help and uplift this mighty race (bit of the old marcus there)...is it a case of the moth finding the flame (meaning if your that way inclined you would of found one already).. or is there a need for concious or should i say polictically and socially aware individuals to be able to access a source of organistaions that they feel are most suited to their talents/or mindset. Yes obviously this is personal to me.. am I the only one?

If you feel that a purely black/African organisation is not the solution please post your thoughts also. Not here to shoot anyone down just gonna sit back and hopefully digest..

NO ONE GOT NOTHING TO SAY!!!???

Oh well/ posters just pretend its not me who started this. Promise I wont say anything...maybe ill start a thread about why black women pick their noses..in an alias and try and switch it round.. maybe ill.. nah forget it.

Hi Manasuma,

There are few organisations that already exist that try and address the needs of African people in the UK, like the PACM (not sure if that is still going though), in terms of education Kokayi. But there is always room for more.

This weekend various organisations will be hosting African Liberation Day. I'll see if I can get some info for you and post here.

There is also the ALL AFRICAN PEOPLES REVELUTIONARY PARTY.. I should also say that there AFRICAN LIBERATION DAY to beb held at the stratford campus of the University of East London on the 29th May 2003..

@miss brighter days

Hey thanks for that. Is kokayi an organsisation then /didnt quite understand you there. Ill have a look for them anyway. Thank You!

@sisterAfrica & Kunjufu

Yeah I heard about that day from a flyer but was looking out for a London date. (the one i read was in Birmingham).
Heard you say on the other thread about there being a small pan-afican following here. Im really sorry to hear that but i guess my suspicions were founded. Anyway thanks for the info.. if ur down there Ill be the brother in the corner moaning about everything and nothing. Again many thanks. Oh yeah is Tony Martin at the London venue? Ill have a look on the net for the party u mentioned but I might come back for more details if I cant find anything.

Peace

Kunjufu/ where can I get tickets for this. Or is it pay at the door?

Mansamusa: Tony Martin is at the Birmingham event... and no you do not have to pay to get into ALD London as far as i remember.........

Hi Manusama - Kokayi is a supplementary school for African children.

This is for all,
Islington council, is looking to cut the funding for this school which has been going for well over 20 years.This school provides a saturday school for primary school children, and after school lessons for secondary school children.

If they cut the funding, the school would only be able to afford 1 teacher. If this happens parents will be forced to pay more money for their child to attend, or the school will have to close down, which would be a disaster.The bad thing is, Islington says funding will be cut in August, and they only told the school LAST MONTH! Which now leaves them in a lot of trouble.

This school has helpedhundreds of black children over the past 2 decades, get on in a racist education system, and needs to be saved. Hundreds of supposed 'troublesome' black boys have come through Kokayi, and got on in school. So the importance of this organisation can not be underestimated.

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how they cansecure publicity for their fight with Islington council or any suggestions on how they can raise money quickly.

Any suggestions and thoughts welcome.

Thanks

This is a really interesting topic. Thank you.

In my experience and from talking to friends who chose to follow other paths, the problem with black organisations is the people who are in it. As a people, we have a lot of history and personal things we need to deal with to make us stand upright etc. A big part of it is checking ourselvesPROPERLYand how we interract with each other. I say this because I find more and more that there are large groups of black people (religious and non religious), who are all there for the enlightenment but when it comes to getting work done and heads down to study and overstand what is being taught, some will dobut a majority are happy to be carried. This just breads resentment and unnecessary hostility, that take away the focus and purpose of what brought you to the organisation in the first place!

I must say that I have met some really great people as a result but also found that the like minded seem to end up sticking together. Simply because they are not into the petty things and just want to learn more and more.

Now, if we could be strong enough to realise that although we have our differences,but weneed to stick together and help each other better ourselves without feeling bad or weak, we stand a good chance. Weaknesses are not permament and can always be turned into a positive to become a strength.

For example, if someone has upset you, why is that you can't you tell them there and then, what upset you, the two of you to acknowledge what was misunderstood, give the offender a chance to explain or clarify and the offended has a chance to forgive you in order to move on? What stops you taking it on and turing it into a big hate thing that often ends up with you not knowing why you stopped talking to a person in the first place. For me, I find people don't like it when you are honest and straight up about things. The truth can hurt but don't lies hurt more?

The intentions of these organisations are really good and do a lot for those who stay true to the information. We shoud be able to trust and respect each other. Our menatlity has to change and we have to have a lot more love for each other.

I don't need to know you to love and respect you. I don't need you to loveor respect me back. blk2hug

That's just how I feel.

@Maat

Thanks for sharing that. I suppose I had a suspicion that there might be a 'bickering' issue within some if not all organistaions as since when can humans get together and not have differences. The clique business is not good to hear though. I know you dont want to slander anyone but if you could PM me the organisation you've had experience with I'll cross it off my list(joke).Serious PM with the details tho if u wish. I hear what your saying about doing the work for the work sake and putting aside differences for the bigger picture tho. I'll keep it in mind...

@missbrighterday

Sorry nearly forgot my manners.

How about the obvious adverts in New Nation/Voice. Recognise that these are not free for a cash strapped school still... How about pirate/community radio stations...know theres plenty your side of the river..
Getting flyers printed up and put in 'black areas' with a plea that really tugs the heart strings.. dont cost much.. dont know what their budget is and have not had any experience of fundraising within our community but I do know about two years or more there was a campaign around the same time as that youth who needed a bone marrow transplant(forgot his name) there was a similar appeal on pirate radios that (if I remeber correctly) was responsive.
Anyway just bouncing ideas of the top...will get back if anything more comes to mind.. (20 years! bwoy that cant slip so easily).

First up.. I responding not in the negative... but maybe too highlight the plight of African/Black orgnisations.... This thread can be very effective.. I will aim to help list african organisations out there doing a good thing, but first we have to understand what they go through and maybe then we can help.

There are lots of African/Black organisations out there... pushing hard for something... The problem is... the message that the organisations are putting across does not hit a string... or the message put across may feel to joe bloggs on the street like they are campaigning for nothing or.. an organisation starts something, they realise how hard it is then stop... I know people who have gone without food to get advertising material together... they get out on the street and are looked at like aliens.. as if.. the community think... what's your problem. I'm mean a lot more black people are 'living good' nowadayz, They got a home and all the materialistics things that make their life comfortable so it's harder now to encourage people to be part of this organisation unless of course it involves the individualmaking a quick buck.

A new generation are growing up in this 'multiculture society' Which has been around from day one as far as I am concern... but what has happened is.. the things that influence each community is crossing over... which is causing confusion.

Also there are too many chiefs and not enough cooks.... Splinter organisation. One person will start something and then internally the organisation may have disagreements and a few people go off and start another organisation to rival the original organisation confusing black people even more.

Another reason.. is trust... An organisation looks for donation to help build or develop something.. then run off with the money.

Another reason is direction... some campaigning for Black and dismissing African and some campainging for African and dismissing black.

Another reason is cliques... They are some wonderful organisations out there.. but are kept within circles and then blame everyone else for not supporting.

Just an observation as to why organisation do not get the support they deserve.

I am going to gather some flyers on my travels over the weekend and hopefully add to the list of African/black organisations and maybe we can do something to help/ get involved.