Fernando wrote:
I think that the guys at the top are completely ignorant as to what people want but they think they know it all, as with everything. I feel that they convince themselves it is in "black peoples" best interest without actually asking them or caring whether they are right or wrong.

I don't think their main priority is to take it away from black people but to allow white people to be able to associate themselves. Thinking that if they do this there will be less of a divide. Which is all complete BS as far as i am concerned confused3

And also, isnt it possible that, under the umbrella of Urban, artists such as Justin Timberfake have a free ride?


Anyone who knows anything about real music knows JT isn't all that lol you can put any umbrella up that you want


Are black people losing everything they excel in under the new umbrella of URBAN?!
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I don't beleive this is possible.

The way i see it your history and heritage cannot ever be taken from you, people may add bits and peices and try "remixing" things but they can NEVER take anything from you

e.g: Kung Fu will always be Chinese heritage no matter how many types of kick boxing are invented.

This is simple business decision

70- 80 % of black music is bought by 'non-blacks'. If Urban music seems more accesible than black music then let it stay. At the end of the day I want to see our artists do well and if that means catering to a larger audience then so be it.

I have to be honest this urban thing slightly irritated me about 18 months ago but now it doesnt register in my head at all. When I have gone to afican art exhibitions they been called afriacn art exhibitions , not an urban word in sight. Their's some food for thought

Black Aviator wrote:



I think the difference is that we don't really have such a thing as "white" music to begin with, there is music which predominately white but it has alternative names....i.e country or rock.

If it was called white music they would have had to change it a long time ago in all fairness

Jazz, the Blues and Reggae music all still remain as such, it is mainly commercial music that is labelled as Urban (usually)



my Dad fly's but he can't spell AT ALL!offtopic.gif





CashMoney wrote:
I agree

That word "URBAN" is a FCUK'N piss take..Since when have I or any other black person become urban..??!! nowhere on an application form for e.g: do you see (Ethnic background, urban as a catergory)..Sod that shite I'm "BLACK" happy content & proud to be one thank you very much..

What else will be diluted/taken away from us..?? because it only seems to me that on the occassions that "black" is used is when describing something bad..My skin is black, I'm seen as a blackman, so urban no way not me, & what does urban skin look like anyway..?? because I sure ain't "coloured" either..!!

Black Aviator wrote:

i have to give you that



lol i don't remember off the top of my head he's flown 2 plane's mainly....one was a Piper one a Cessna but i don't remember which one was first

Our arts and crafts, traditional dresses/ music, etc has escaped urabn labelling but we get pissed when some white dude @ arista records wants to put urban term to some punk rappers talkign abut how they would 'put two bullets in my head and sell crack'' In terms of derogatory rap although I like it I happy its not called black music

RnB , jazz, reggae is a whole diffreent ball game though and I can understand being pissed off about urban labellalling in such categories because most of that is feel good music