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@Blackmatta

Heh heh!

Love this topic -

No jealousy and envy are more simple than that

Envy is - wanting what someone else has.

Jealousy is - not wanting someone else to have what they have.

It's debatable whch of the two is more destructive.

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On the matter of whether we all feel jealousy - I don't need to know every single human being personallyto know that no human being lives for ever.

Dying, is part of the human conditionso we all dieeventually. Jealousy is part of the human condition so we all feel jealousy at times.

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Yeh I'm ajealous playa hating wannabe - and?? I'm still gonna **** you up if you cometalkinshit- idiot.

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Post imported post - 24-07-04, 01:43 PM

@ RFYW

Envy is - wanting what someone else has.

Jealousy is - not wanting someone else to have what they have.

It's debatable whch of the two is more destructive.


good definitions.

Going by this I would say Jealousy is worse because envy may inspire you to try get that something yourself perhaps... but then the very wanting it may be a sign of pesonal discontent and an indicator of unhappiness so hmmm Its not so easy.

Jealousy is focussing on somebody else instead of yyourself so I would imagine thats more destructive.


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Post imported post - 24-07-04, 02:09 PM

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I take serious offence when you refer to me as a black man basher, I have never come at black men collectively. I have always, past present and future come against men who hang on to their manhood like their very lives depend on it, who put women down so they can look like the men they are not, whether these men be white, orange, or purple.

I am in love with a black man and have been married to one longer than many of you on this site have been on this earth so please retract that staatement!


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You are doing the same thing as CM providing half information. I though you were better than that…

Unfortunately the posts explaining what I meant have been deleted, including when you falsely accused me of calling black men *N***rs*, which you still haven’t apologised for.

The comments I made was regarding an article about 9 out of 10 black men dating interracial in the UK. I say 3 out of the 5 black men who don’t see me as good enough to “date� aren’t good enough anyway and you take exceptional offence to that?

I remember reading several black men’s views on black women. Let me see if I can recall there was one who said “The average Indian woman is better looking than a black woman�, or another one that said it’s ok to breed with black women but not to date, or another one who said he’d rather be hit in the head with a baseball bat and run over by a truck than chat up a black woman because we all have a bad attitude….

Is it ok then they think that about me?

I didn’t give up on all of them hence the 2 out of 5... So what’s your point?

I made my self perfectly clear then regarding the comments and even offered to apologise and did apologise to anyone who felt my comments had offended them even though no one else did except for you, you didn’t see that did you?

I have made a decision not to participate in any more gender discussions, as we are only going around in circles, taking sides and insulting each other so if you still feel you need explanation you can send me a PM.

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Post imported post - 24-07-04, 02:26 PM

@ Fazuan,

The hundreds of long winded feminism debates and the happiness thread and then this in the childbirth thread...

I know about women that give their men a lot free rein and most times to be honest it stinks of desperation.

I dont know about you but that comment was disgraceful. If I started speaking about giving my woman free reign like a dog the women here would rightfully get mad! Following conversations with you in PM I feel I know where you coming from with your stance however to a casual obserevr like most of us this sort of thing is highly offensive. I never used the phrase black man basher about a specific person heres what I said..

Any one of you could have written Stylishsistas offending post and no doubt all agree with it fully since none of you have spoken out against it.

I based that on various numerous views expressed over several threads.

have been involved in many of these discussions. They may operate from a stance of sticking up for women and have good intentions, I believe so. The problem is that now certain people see everything now as a gender issue and lash out with those accusations and the crap starts again.

There is nothing inacurate there surely? I acknowledge that woman bashing goes on but you seem to want to deny man bashing even exists!! When presented with it you ignore or dismiss and ask us the motives of attacking as if we are wrong? pah!

BTW if I said bad things about black women and then said but not my mum and my wife is that ok?


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How do you know that? - you're the one saying they are not good enough for you.

I remember reading several black men’s views on black women. Let me see if I can recall there was one who said “The average Indian woman is better looking than a black woman�, or another one that said it’s ok to breed with black women but not to date, or another one who said he’d rather be hit in the head with a baseball bat and run over by a truck than chat up a black woman because we all have a bad attitude….
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Yeh so where did I say I agreed with that?? Seen no less insulting comments from black women. More to the point it is usually women who initiate all the insults.

I made my self perfectly clear then regarding the comments and even offered to apologise and did apologise to anyone who felt my comments had offended them even though no one else did except for you, you didn’t see that did you?
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What the hell does that mean? - you get offended on behalf of black women I got offended behalf of black men. So every single man has to declare that he's been offended before you apologise? I can't believe your arrogance. What kind of stupid logic is that?
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You offended me madam-I'm ablack man.
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I have made a decision not to participate in any more gender discussions, as we are only going around in circles, taking sides and insulting each other so if you still feel you need explanation you can send me a PM.
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No we are not going round in circles - we black men are making clear that if any one comes disrespecting us they will get dissed simple as.
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So if you wanna diss let's carry on, in factlet's escalate thisthing otherwise I suggest you and the others like you stop your crap.
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The hundreds of long winded feminism debates and the happiness thread and then this in the childbirth thread...

I know about women that give their men a lot free rein and most times to be honest it stinks of desperation.

I dont know about you but that comment was disgraceful. If I started speaking about giving my woman free reign like a dog the women here would rightfully get mad! Following conversations with you in PM I feel I know where you coming from with your stance however to a casual obserevr like most of us this sort of thing is highly offensive. I never used the phrase black man basher about a specific person heres what I said..

Any one of you could have written Stylishsistas offending post and no doubt all agree with it fully since none of you have spoken out against it.

I based that on various numerous views expressed over several threads.

have been involved in many of these discussions. They may operate from a stance of sticking up for women and have good intentions, I believe so. The problem is that now certain people see everything now as a gender issue and lash out with those accusations and the crap starts again.

There is nothing inacurate there surely? I acknowledge that woman bashing goes on but you seem to want to deny man bashing even exists!! When presented with it you ignore or dismiss and ask us the motives of attacking as if we are wrong? pah!

BTW if I said bad things about black women and then said but not my mum and my wife is that ok?
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Anyway if you are basing your accusations on that statement, note I didn't say give black men a free rein, I said men in general so if you are going to accuse me of something, make sure it's accurate.


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@ Fazuan

Sorry about the tiny writting.

You misunderstood everything anyway.

I am taking Abissinias lead and refusing to discuss man v woman things anymore. I for one have NEVER said anything disrepectful on women here even under extreme provocation.


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Nah me neither I've only told the truth about the ones who provoke. :-)


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Post imported post - 24-07-04, 03:58 PM

*giggles*

Oh Ill attack people personaly alright, and individuals when I hear how crap balck men are or lazy and such stuff... I go at them. They do allthe generalising I go for them.

Quite simple


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@BM

Well I find that extremely hard to believe - it's almost like saying, not all people feel disappoinment.

But like you say each to their own - I believe we all feel jealousy no matter where in the world :-) you don't.

With you - I'll leave it there.

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TO ABISSINIA,

U wrote: It’s so admirable how so many people have come together to condone what she said but apart from me, sooofresh and fazuan no one else says nothing when obal85 consistently spews his garbage….actually he gets a pat on the back from some members, yeh bro speak your mind, it’s good for the soul, don’t keep it in let it out…

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