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20-07-04, 06:01 PM
Its a disease that is killing people in developing world and you can have HIV but not AIDS as well
I know they wouldnt even contain ebola virus which is much more ruthless than HIV
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20-07-04, 06:15 PM
Conspiracy theories are the modern day heresy.
Also HIV would of wiped out the world hundreds of years ago if it wasn't "created" A world totally ignorant about the virus as well wouldn't even stand a chance against it..
One thing I would say, any virus that the body can't fight off naturally was created artificially. Most of them seem to go against the laws of nature....if a virus can adapt then so should people. Even insects can do that in some cases.
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21-07-04, 09:23 AM
I heard that germ warfare is an american thing and that syphillis was created in america to get rid of black people
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21-07-04, 10:38 AM
The USA has tried subtle and not to subtle things to reduce/influence population size.
I read that through health organizations they tried to sterilize certain (we all can guess which types of) Brazilians because they didn't like the fact that Brazil was the most populous South American nation and that it would soon catch up with the U.S in term of size.
There are all sorts of things like the positioning of abortion clinics in urban areas in America and the advice the give to certain black Americans with regards to family planning.
We also know that in the US in the early part of the century and leading up to maybe the 60's they used to test vaccinations out on black Americans or with hold treatment for stuff outright.
I believe that AIDS is a biological weapon used to decimate non-white people. Doesn't seem so hard to believe.
People also believe that Israel and South Africa (during minority rule) were collaborating on developing bio-weapons that could be specifically targeted at the hostile majority surrounding them.
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21-07-04, 12:10 PM
@ Ladyday
Syphillis has been with us for a while. Egyptian mummy was found with syphillis.
AIDS is another story alltogether... It cant be anything but man made, its only a few decades old!!! I like peacemakers reasoning on this one.
AIDS has to be a weapon.
I personally think that the drug companies have had a cure for ages but there is far more money in treating it than curing it. Same with many diseases I think
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21-07-04, 12:44 PM
@All. Never ever contributed to a discussion on AIDs before often because very obvious to me the type of reasonable scenarios which has cause it to spread and affect particular parts of the world.
About conspiracy theories. Problem about conspiracy theories is often the uncritical apply them to everything which allows people distorts the facts that conspiracies, if that what you want to call them, actually exists and have always formed in important aspect of power at a particular level, especially when talking about these world powers eg the US.
As early as 1980's I read official documentation from the United States Army's Biological Research Unit or whatever the proper name is, showing these people have been heavily engaged in this stuff for a very very long time. I remember reading about agents which attack pigments related to melanin, which means black folk and people like us, which harms the individual but does "little" harm to crops and vegetation.
The ability to produce biological and genetic based weapons has been a massive goal of the US military on simple economic and man power/technology grounds of being able to conqueor and not spend money. The white man's salvation and thinking in military terms has always been about reducing the amount of physical fighting they have to do. They ain't particularly good at it, and the US public is a very slippery fish, where the shock of war deflates them quite fast...
We saw these things pioneered in Vietnam eg Agent Orange and we can go on. In Cuba and Grenada the US/CIA used biological warfare on these independent nations, primarily the use of swine fever, wiping out in the first instance its pig breeding and then other livestock and the use of bugs to kill their agricultral production of these countries.
This is one of the reasons Cuba is one of the world leaders in tropical science and particular branches of science and medicine, and had it not been for that Grenda would have been finished even before the revolution got a chance to excercise government.
Within 3 years of the new regime its crops and animals were dying and particular attention was paid to its nutmeg and spice production where particular type of externally introduced bugs were found. Grenda is one of the world leading producers of choclate and spices...
So to the question of AIDs following from Peacemakers observations...My thinking is this...
1. Assuming this is not a natural phenomenon or not entirely...who has the expertise to produce these viruses?
2..Who has the institutional ability to impose its view on the world regarding the cause of this diseaase and create the official definition
3. Who has structural and institutional interests which this crisis allows to exploit..
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21-07-04, 01:16 PM
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"The white man's salvation and thinking in military terms has always been about reducing the amount of physical fighting they have to do. They ain't particularly good at it,"
lol so true..
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25-07-04, 04:53 PM
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I have heard similar things.. There are SO many things which are possible now and technology that already exists, but to make it available to the public requires money.. and rich people and business are the gatekeepers for that.. unless we make a tax for it. I dont know why people wouldnt post a cure for aids though.. for real. Its not just a black thing and african thing a gay thing or whatever.. anyone can get it..
I wouldnt be suprised if they were arguing over who gets credit for the cure... Science works that way sometimes.. Not about whos best, but who's first and has the most "clout"...
But seriously.. with all this talk of cure.. where is it??
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25-07-04, 09:59 PM
http://www.africa2000.com/an informative site on the whole issue of Eugenics and us
Frantz Fanon
We are nothing on earth if we are not, first of all, slaves of the cause of the people, the cause of justice, the cause of liberty.
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17-08-04, 09:46 PM
http://www.islamonline.net/English/S...rticle08.shtml
The Aids epidemic broke out about the same time as the drugs explosion back in 70's or should I say the same times as drugs were put into Afro-American communities. They didn't want many of us to rise to the top of society, and they still don't hence why drugs are freely avaliable still and guns are easy to get hold off.
It's no coincidence that it only seems to be non-white countries where it's a big problem, a bigger problem than it should be if it was natural phenomema.
Central Africa where most of the smallpox vaccines took place in the 70's happen to be the place where Aids broke out shortly atferwards.
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