Does capital punishment deter people from committing murderor worsen it? What do you think?

I dont think capital punishment deters anything really.

Fear of the death penalty can never be a deterent for murder for the simple reason that nobody who commits crimes believes they gonna get caught. Many murders are crimes of passion as opposed to premeditatedmurders like on TV. Nobody thinks "man I could get 5 years straight for looking at a gun boy I better put it down and change my life" thats silly, from you involved with guns then whatever the sentnce is you involved same way. Same way a killer doesnt think "well I would kill you but Im scared of the chair". A murderer will murder whatever.

Prison is for retribution before rehabilitation. The retribution is for the victim and their family, the rehabilitation is for the criminals benefit. Some people can not be rehabilitated and will remain a danger or threat to society (eg peadophilles can not help what they do, they will always be a threat) society must protect itself by incarcerating such individuals or killing them. Such actions have very little to do with dettering anybody from commting those acts but it removes an identified threat to society. New murderers will still murder regardless of whatever punishment society meets out to itscaptured murderers. The captured ones will however not murder again.

Personally I dont support capital punishment for anything short of murder orrape (paedophillia comes under rape). Countries that have the death penalty still have murderers. Futhermore the societies which have these capital crimes, place a low value on human life in general, extending the death penalty to all sorts it finds undesirable.......

I don't think it does,but I'm for it.

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Does capital punishment deter people?

I agree with the majority here, look at the US and look at the murder rate in some states. If you have nothing to lose.. and worse still dont value life cant see the threat of captial punishment stopping you.

However..

It could make it better, or rather stop a dangerous situation. Governments, no less the "democracies" either use murder as a form of control. The secret services etc.

So as a leader who is to say you would not condone "murder" or assasination if a person is treachorous to your peoples interests. Sometimes it may be the only effective action.

Not inciting murder, and I have no love for it..but its done every day legally. Every war is capital punishment for the fighters who die. Depends on whos doing the killing /or the killed on the defination of murder though..

But for civilian murders, I dont think it deters it but could be a solution for the cold blooded/calculated and cruel of murders. Every murder story has its own reasons. I dont think the man who murdered the guy who done him or family serious wrong.. can be judged the same as the calculated serial killer.

But can it a solution to some crimes... to protect the public then yes I feel.

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capitol punishment needs to be brought back...

or at the very least... let life imprisonment mean LIFE... not 4 yrs... or 10 yrs...

LIFE

@Firmly against capital punishment. Period. One of the things that I draw a little satisfaction from and can big up British and European MPs and Parliaments and legal systems is how they have tackled this issue.

The quality of debate is probably the highest and most informed you will ever see on any public matter. Most of us will be surprised how intelligent these polticians can be when they are not forced to act on party poltical lines.

Also the legal profession is not for it at all. So Britain can pat itself on the back if only on one issue.

I am with Lucas on this one. on the second part of his comment as other people here. Life should mean life.


But we must realise that by taking such a position, we are excluding the fact that human beings can change and transform themselves in a god given way..

I can live with that comfortably but because on particular categories of crime which we all know, incluing treason in my books, as with most British law makers are one way streets. Once you break the grounds of public social acceptability or bring harm to the state and its citizens you have to face maximum punishment allowed by law...Whether you become a great human being while serving your sentence is simply a paradox of the human condition...


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Obal. Captial punishment is about retribution/punishment, protecting key social boundaries and a whole heap of thing and nothing to do with reducing crime because it doesn't.

@ Ja

Not only that but one has to factor in the racial aspect of this too. We've had several brothers who were close to being put to death and were found to be wrongly convicted. A moratorium had to be called on the death penalty in one state because of these findings.

So like you I agree with Lucas...there should be truth in sentencing.niceone.gif

@Ashanti. Down the line. The racial factor is so obvious I didn't even mention it. Who is most likely to be sent to die abroad in phoney wars, predmoinantly the sons of the poor and black people. Who will be sent to their deaths....

So no doubt......


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@ Ashanti

How is Mumia these days? whats his status?

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If memory serves, I think his case is still in the appeals process. If I come across something I'll bring it here.

IF everything in the legal profession were perfect then i would say that capital punishment is something i agreed with to a degree, it would depend on the crime....i mean murder can be a complicated case and not as straightforward as it may seem to anyone not directly involved. If someone were to murder a man for "interfering" with hisyoung daughterand we hadcapital punishment for murder then that man would likely lose his lfe too, but i don't beleive he should be. There are many cases such as this.

As already mentioned (hi Ashanti *waves*) there is also theaspect of"mistakes" that people make regarding convictionin the first place. Many times throughout history the wrong man has been hung/beheaded going way back and then 5-300 years later they decide to reinvestigate and"clearhis name"

Bit late for all that by then, he's lost his life and his familyhave lost a father/brother/son. At least if they are imprisoned then there is a chance ofappeal for those cases and all is not lost.

I don't like that the absolutely, catagorically, definately perverted/twisted/sick/barbaric individuals get to live but it's the price you have to pay for innocent people tohave a chance i guess confused3



When the justice system is perfected then they can bring back capital punishment with my blessing especially if its one of my children that was hurt blkangry