TO KHALIL,

U wrote: That asian man had a point tho, they dont go around murking themselves over drugs. it hurts but its true.

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And we blacks have no "HONOUR KILLING" culture in our community like the Indians and Pakistanis where their daughters or sons get killed brutally for getting married to someone of different race. That evil culture still persists to this day wherever Indians and Pakistanis reside on the face of this globe. The joke is on them stinky indians and pakistanis.

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@ Amin

First class observations and an excellent review of a piece of terrible journalism and TV. Darcus Howe is a frigging FOOL!!

I couldnt understand why everyone was so against him b4 today but now?? Oh man what a fool. Divider... him with his Asian wife, probably believes the shit they were saying.

Amin: First class observation and Analysis, darcus howe is a rahtid baffoon, his so called expose had no balance, no direction or credibility.. Has anyone noticed that every time he wants a snapshot of black views he frequents the Barber.. Sorry but since when did the whole spectrum of Black opinion frequent a rahtid Barber shop..!!

wolw wolw wolw?

b4 anybody bites my head off. I aint takin no sides on anyone am just statin the facts. They showed a boy who got beat by some somalians at the respect festival. only if darcus knows that beef is tradition at that festivalsame thing happened this year. A gurl got shot, i saw 4 different mass beating, which was a black on black ting. well different story..

I was really disappointed in the documentary cuz they made us look p*ssy like da victim and those pakis r all about team work theres nothin tuff bout them.

and the asian dude was sayin stuff like they gonna own this country. I see why da bmp is doin they thang.you Imagine if this country was run by asians. its a wrap for any other race.

And as for the somalian and west indian dude. its also happens vice-versa. matter of fact I have seen it happen more times vice-versa

Khalil: to be honest those Muslim youts were seriously stupid.. how in the hell are going to go on TV and talk about taking over things..duh.. But what really got me was the Eeeediot boy flashing a picture of Osama from his phone.. Now is this evidence of the first brainless humun life..

So get this Terrorism ah run tings and what does this fool do, shows his face on TV, flashing a pic of Osama and talking shit like it was big tings.. I bet his parents must be real happy with this fool right now..

as for the somalian vs carribean ting, this is youth tings, not cultural tings!

I was really happy that they broadcasted that documentary because it show that racism doesn’t come from only white people but there is racism between the biggest ethnic groups in Britain. But do you know what’s so funny? I still don’t know why there is racism in the first place because we all know that this country doesn’t belong to us.


(What are we fighting over)?

When the women said “ They should go back to where they came from�
I know this isn’t my country and I can take that fact but this isn’t her country so therefore she has no right in saying “ They should go back to where they came from�
No offence but she doesn’t know where the hell she came from, I have an identity I have a country????

Whether your parents came here as Refugees, Asylum Seekers or Immigrants you still don’t belong here.

I personally don’t have anything against any ethnic groups, but I have to admit WHAT GOES ROUND COMES ROUND, and sorry to say but I think those West Indians deserve everything and much more (its about time)

And that guy claiming that a Somali women called him a “******� well to tell the truth I don’t blame her that’s what you go round calling yourself……………………and it was really funny because he said “she isn’t white she from Africa� well duh that’s what Somalis have been trying to say from day one but you where to ignorant and busy selling drugs…………………………………. so what now you want to turn the tables????????????[size=3][font="Times New Roman"]
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[size=3][font="Times New Roman"]East African girl, there isn't racism between african but a severe case of stupidty as you quite right say, why are people fighting over what is NOT theirs..

@All. Ijexa is absolutely right. Anything assoicaited with Darcus Howe should be avoided like the plague. He epitmises unprinciple opportunism and self aggrandisement, sensationalism and an exaggerated and rampent egoism and neediness equal to none.

He has gone from so called black power radical to anyone who is willing to pay's wild card to say the unthinkable or that designed deliberately to offend and insight in his new role as grand gentleman of the televsion establishment.

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I have to repost this again...

I saw it and I think Darious didnt do enough research on the problem or he didnt have enough funds...the concept of the documentary was good but it was also shallow

1) he should have asked those asian boys in Birmingham on what if someone is black and muslim would they still wanna kill him?

2)He shouls have gone boyongd those kids and have a 121 with more figureheads in those communities and hear what they say

3)why didnt he try to get an opinion froma Sikh or Hindu?

4)I hated the Tamil guy but they he had a point saying that ITS BETTER TO DIE FROM HEART ATTACK THAN DRUGS,we as people of the colour we have a problem within ourselves and solution also lies within us

5)I hope madmullah saw about the somali youth in woolwich,but then again Darious should have tried to get more from somali youth just like he did with those pakistani youth in Birmingham

6)There was this somali elder claiming that most somali youths are confused and stranded due to what they saw in warzones in Mogadishu and so on..fair enough but we have refugees from Rwanda and burundi where the genocide took place and we dont see their youths behaving the same way as somali..so something is wrong within somali community and they know what it is and they dont want to confront it

7)I never saw what white pple think of all this Darious would have some more views from whites as well

nb:did anyone saw how those asian women call black people? I was shocked but not suprised

the last one refused me a loan but her white coleague who was a woman (the fist was asian woman) gave me, made me understand that blacks being denied those loans is not about CREDIT RATINGS but prejudice from asian bankers as well.

since then I just though what if I saw an asian woamn being rapped? would I report it or not?would I help her or not?

I am still questioning myself....

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From my experiance Asians are even more racist than white (and blacks).
Asians would rather import labour from their home country than employ a black person look at any asian shop/ firm/ factory etc.
They also have problems integrating the rest of the society and from my own personal experiance they are very militant.

i stayed up and watched was a bit diassapointed. there was no balance n the show. those asian youths that were threatening darcus howe were scum. its true waht darcus says these asians adopt west indian street culture butr then turn around and start hating the people they try to emulate.

on the drugs thing i live in the midlands and see many so called asians on drugs. they do nothing about it. they only seem to care about where the prostitutes are.

@east afican gurl. the west indian woman can say they need to back to their country. for one she was not a refugee. she came here as the programme stated as an invited immigrant to help build up england again. in cintext with what she has been through she can say what she feels. she isobviously in pain because of those war minded people.

its a shame but it just goes to show that these people felt this way before they came here. my friend told me years ago that in derby there was a big riot between asians and black folk. the asians had put leaflets out attacking black people. black folk showed unity and came down from other oarts of the midlands

no surprises but i have to kaugh when asians use our lyrics and then want to cuss.

Will read the whole thread later but as far as who is the at bottom of the pile goes well all communities have a problem with drugs abusebut which communities are killing each other over them? All communities have professionals but which communities support themselves and which are more red-eye towards themselves.

When the Asian man was telling Darcus why he thinks blacks were at the bottom of the pile I was just praying that he came up with the fact that Asian professionals seldomsuffer the indignity of having to marry off theiroffspring to greys

I did detect an element ofunity amongst the street-wise asians but still, it got me thinking whether this was political militance or whether they too loose the plot after watching their version of MTVBase...or indeed MTVBase itself

All in allI don't think the problem is half as bad as Darcus is trying to make out but suspect he again has come up trumps for being the conduit for another one of Channel 4's hidden agendas.

I missed the show, does it repeat itself?

@ coltrane- you said

"since then I just though what if I saw an asian woamn being rapped? would I report it or not?would I help her or not?

I am still questioning myself.... "

im sorry bruv but the above statement is bullshit if you saw any woman no matter what race, creed, whatever, being raped, of course you should help and report it, if not there must be something wrong with you bruv .confused2

Well, I am quite sure that the Asian community are going to have their own axe to grind with Channel 4 soon enough...On August 26, Channel 4 are screening a documentary that was originally banned as it was jumped on by the BNP...the documentary is entitled...'Edge of the City'...I wonder how supercillious they will feel when they are accused of grooming and sexually assaulting young white girls...Hate Mail ahem...the Daily Mail had a full page article on this...I want to see the fall out after it is screened...

blkheadbangWhere shall i start???

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Then they are chatting about they hate Jews!!! Whyhave these racists always got a problem with Jews and Jews are not bothering with nobody!!!!

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UUUmmmmm, how can he sayhe hates Jews because they smell??????It is not likethey are known for beingso 'Spring Breeze Fresh' themselves!!!! I mean come with some facts man!!! You want to hate a whole religion / race, come with some facts.

To say i felt actually sick when i watched this programme would be an understatement.

So many people have made good points, but i haven't read through them all, so sorry if i repeat what has already been said.

POINT 1) - How could that maniac darcus allow that foolish asian man to tell those offensive nonsense jokes about black people

and then refute it by saying - well people would say you lot work to hard. The man quite rightly said - and so what? Whats wrong with that! Is that all darcus could say?

2) How could he go to a celebration of Asian culture, and only go in to a pool hall and talk to some small black boys drinking and talking about revenge.

3) How could he just step into an area where they are openly hostile towards anyone who is not pakistani, and think that he would be able to interview them, without any warning.

4) Why did he cower like a fool when they said they are going to beat him up. Yet later he said some nonsense about shaving his head and going out into the street to deal with the people who beat up his crew? (did anyone else find that the most cringworthy thing and a little bit funny? The shaving the head rant i mean)

5) Then instead of exploring properly the tensions between blacks and asains in Walsall, and building the programme around that. That Foolish programme jumped to South London (of course! where else?) to talk to a confused little boy who has been beaten up by somalian youths, which will obviously lead him to have negative feelings towards somalian youths. But instead of protraying that story as that individual boys story, that programme and that animal howe decided to say this is how all "west indians" feel.

6) Why did darcus not question that poor woman who had her house stoned, to ask why did she believe the white youths? How did she not know it was the white youths that did it. And what was the point of using that woman's story within the context of the programme? So because she felt like that, does that mean all women of her age, and of her background feel the same way?

7) That programme attempted to say that white racism is now dying down, it is racism amongst non whites that is now the problem! WHAT RUBBISH!

There will always be tensions between people of different races and cultures. But nothing is more damaging and oppressive than white racism!

There is so much more i want to say, but i better get back to work.

Oh yes, before i forget - exactly what was darcus's role in that programme, was he the presenter or the interviewee? I didn't want to hear him chatting nonsense, let him just interview the people, and challenge them to their face, not later on in the studio. FOOLISHNESS!

And lastly to top of a typical channel 4 moment - they voice over at the end said - "DO YOU THINK THAT ETHNIC MINORITY RACISM IS NOW MORE PREVALANT THAN WHITE RACISM? IF SO LOG ON TO......"

I should have switched it off after i saw those idiotic asian boys talking nonsense, about black people being all mouth.

I know for next time!

sport-smiley

OH BOY - I'm glad I do not have to list down all my concern/criticisms of this fool fool programme - because my intelligent brothers/sisters have common sense and know what this programme was about and whose agenda it was working towards and have already listed and spoke about some very good points and observations.

I few points that stuck in my head was Darcus Howes' own personal agenda:

1) Begining the programme at the wedding of - I think his son marrying - yes you guessed - a white woman. With a wedding party of mixed race couples and children

2) Ending the programme with his Asian wife giving him a kiss.

What was his point - The Asian and black people can kill and scubble amongst themselves - my family are intergrated = above the ignorance and safe confused3

Also once again - where do they find the people they interview for these programmes - It should be now that when film/camera crews enter the black community - the black community leaders/elders should be questioning and blocking ALL interviews because they always without fail pick out/edit into their programmes the most ignorant eeeeeidiots who do not represent not even a black owned animal much less the human owner.

Kunjufuyou said: "..................as for the somalian vs carribean ting, this is youth tings, not cultural tings!................" clp)clp)- EXACTLY!!!!!

As for West Indians saying and justify saying "go back to your own country" - I find that INCREDIABLY STUPID AND IRONIC............................................ ..............

I have never had more racism off anyone than asians in my experience at school they would refer to us as Calu which means black or buju which means means monkey. At Uni I had so much racism from asians it was terrible. Five year ago in the West Midlands it was ok as they seemed to be controlled but then I went to uni in Harrow where I saw alot of renk asians who had no repect for black people i could'nt believe itmy first thoughts were what have the black people been doingin Londonto make them get out of control. I remember queing up outside a club in Ealing and Asians were pushing I said yo chill and he replied why what areyou going to do, I was completely shocked. Three years later when I returned to the West Midlands I found that the Asians had adopted the London Asian mentality, I was driving through Wolverhampton when two asians held up the traffic talking to each other ie one was going in one direction and vicer verser so I beeped my horn and they werestill doing it, so I did it again so the asian got mad and drove up beside me and winded down his window and he said to me you aint no bad man if your a bad man show me your badness. As i'm civilised I did not do anything and drove off but later on as I was burning me. I feel we have been used as we all remember how dry asians were back in the day, they chilled with us and learnt the art of coolness in society they have added that to their collective along with their academic achievements and now want to make us a stigma as with the darker shades of asians within their own culture.

I watched that programme with disgust!!!!

Darcus Howe he loves to provoke and it was so one -sided. I can't believe he did not pull up those asians on how racist they were.

He did not get any views from hardly any black people but allowed these people to rant and rave. Why do other raceswatchwhat we are doing so much?

Not to keep repeating what everyone else has said I have always known from personal experience howsome asians feel about black people whether they are living here or the caribbean(esp Guyana). I personally won't be buying anything from their shops I think black people should stop buying products from these people especially products aimed at us.

From speaking to asians at work their whole value system revolves around the caste system and it involves money, status and skin colour which is an interegral part of their culture and the especially the Hindu religion. As they seem to love money so much the best thing we can do to retaliate against racism isstop buying from their shops.

I would urge those of us who wish to open up our own shops to do it

We must support other black people!!!!As a black community we need to stop fighting within ourselves and support each other.

This could be simple as buying from other blacks asking them to stock products theydon't have that you usually use instead of going to the racist man's shop because he stocks the products.

E.G Ask Hairdressers and barbers to stock hair products so we can buy from them - if no-one wants to open up these shops.

The black community as a whole needs to reach out to the somalian community and help them integrate with us. We would be far stronger if we worked together!!!!

Last point is that we should never allow ourselves to hate other people as we will turn out bitter and twisted as they are.

The best thing to do to bring racist people down is to stop lining their pockets with our hard earned money!!!!



Lots of other things to say but got to back to work!

Also - I forgot to add -The programme had nothing to do with the title. :X

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