@All

I received the following message today about the lastes Cash Machine Frauds that is currently taking place in London. No one knows how far this will reach but please take note of the following:-

"Please be aware that gangs of criminals are targeting the cash machines on LUL premeises. The criminals have been fitting portable card readers to the machines which clone the card details. This has happened at Hammersmith District and Piccadilly station on 21.10.04.

If you become aware that a device has been fitted to a cash machine on LUL property, please contact the police immediately."

Remember its the part where you insert your card i.e card socket. The fraudsters simply attach the device over the card socket so unless you notice this everything about the machine looks legit.


Also bear in mind that although this is concerning train/tube stations it could happen anyway so this is an important reminder for everyone to check there bank statements thoroughly.


N*E*R*D has kindly posted a picture of the fake cash machine device in themessage/post after this one!

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@N*E*R*D

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@ N.E.R.D. Thanks alot niceone.gif

@ All

No probs!

Thanks, i'll be sure to pass the message on.....niceone.gif

Another scam... kmt... bwoy whats wrong wid people today. Who sent u this report is there a linkon a website with more info? Ive heard about this shit before bak in the day done by eastern europeans. This is why im scared to enter my pin via Chip and pin cos i dont kno if they got cameras watchin what i enter in sum of them shops. Especially asian owned mobile shops. Too many teefs in the world man.

@I-H8-SCAMS

Sorry I didn't get the message from a website it was an email sent to me.

Thanks for the info, but what about HSBC machines???!!!

Visa and MasterCard Scam. It workes like this:

Person calling says, 'this is Carl Patterson (any name) and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify.

Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Company a device/any expensive item, for £497.99 from a marketing company based in (any town?)

When you say 'No'. The caller continues with, 'Then we will be issuing a credit to your Account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from £297 To £497, just under the £500 purchase pattern that flags most cards.

Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (they give you your address), is that correct?'

You say, 'Yes'. The caller continues . 'I will be starting a fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800 number listed on your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control number. They then give you a 6-digit number. 'Do you need me to read it again?

Caller then says he 'needs to verify you are in possession of your card' (this is where the scam takes place as up until now they have requested nothing!). They then ask you to turn your card over.

There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are 1234 (or whatever, as they have your number anyway).

The next 3 are the security numbers that verify that you are in possession of the card' (these are the numbers they are really after as these are the numbers you use to make internet purchases to prove you have the card).

'Read me the 3 numbers.' When you do he says 'That is correct. I just needed
to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card.

Do you have any other questions?

Don't hesitate to call back if you do.'

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we telephoned back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA security department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of £497.99 WAS put on our card. Long story made short.

We made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card and they are reissuing
us a new number. What the scam wants is the 3-digit number and that once
the charge goes through, they keep changing every few days. By the time you
get your statement, you think the credit is coming, and then it's harder to actually file a fraud report.

THE REAL VISA/MASTERCARD DEPARTMENT REINFORCED THE POINT THAT THEY WILL NEVER ASK FOR ANYTHING ABOUT THE CARD SINCE THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!.