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I know this will be a thorny issue but again we will have to talk about it and have a different opions on the same.Now here in UK the whole concept of Patriotism among black people is not rooted as among African Americans in the states and this goesback several decades antil now whether its kids at school who have to say a pledge of ellegiance or poor blacks who are more than happy to rally around the flag and even artists as well as talk show hosts..but as to AAisnt it ironic that they are targeted by the system to join the army fight for America and its ideologies world wide...

Now What is the true nature of patriotism anyway?


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patriotism

\Pa"tri*ot*ism\, n. [Cf. F. patriotisme.] Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one's country; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one's country. --Berkley.


I think you can add tribe,race or ethnicity to that definition to some degree.


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I know this will be a thorny issue but again we will have to talk about it and have a different opions on the same.Now here in UK the whole concept of Patriotism among black people is not rooted as among African Americans in the states and this goesback several decades antil now whether its kids at school who have to say a pledge of ellegiance or poor blacks who are more than happy to rally around the flag and even artists as well as talk show hosts..but as to AAisnt it ironic that they are targeted by the system to join the army fight for America and its ideologies world wide...

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Coltrane, I'm a die-hard blackamerican patriot.Why? The u.s. is home for me, man! I'm many generations firmly rooted in american soil. This is the land of my fore-fathers and future children. I don't have a carribean island or nation in africa to fall back on, you know! You should keep in mind that although whites are currently the ruling-class of american society, this by no means stipulates that they own america or that blacks or non-whites don't have a stake in america's future or destiny. We've as much or more blood-sweat-and-tears invested in america.
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Addressing that bit about"the system" targeting blacks for military service. I'd add that I agree somewhat, but I think that poor or working-classpeople(fill in the color) are targeted moreso than middle to upper class americans. It just so happens that blacks comprise a sizable percentage of america's poor.
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Historically, the rich have proposed war, while the poor have fought and died in wars. It's the same the world over. Tis not solely a u.s. phenomenon! Understand that for many poor or working class americans, the military is a means out of poverty or economically deprived areas. Not to mention an opportunity to go to college or attain new skills.
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Anyways, now-a-days many american servicemen & women are from mid-class backgrounds. Hence, we now have the most highly skilled military in u.s. history.
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*God bless america*clp)
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I am more worried about the tidal wave of Blind Patriotism in the US and seems the target again are Blacks regardsless of their status..from Oprah to the projects in Ohio

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