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29-11-04, 09:13 AM
Only black people....
Are engaged for 5 years or more
Never bother to divorce, they just separate for the rest of their lives
Are late to church, work and everything else, EXCEPT when the club is
free before 11:00pm
Refer to diabetes as "sugar" their leg as 'foot' and their arm as 'han'
Drive slowly around the town just looking for someone they can "hail"
Show up at weddings, showers, graduation, birthday parties, etc. with a new
outfit on, with their nails and hair done, but don't bring a present, then eat
like dogs and take a plate home wrapped up in foil
Consider "raving" a monthly expense
Leave bills (instead of insurance money) behind for surviving relatives
Have at least one relative with a curly perm
Will borrow money for a big wedding reception then live in flat with no
furniture.
Phone up all their friends to ask them if their 'reaching' a funeral
Have mothers who can use swear words and religion ALL IN ONE SENTENCE.
For example "Lord give me strength 'cause I am bout to knock the blood
@@*+- out of this bad_?%*@?#_ child"
Swear that the Irish man selling carpets out of a van gives them the
best deals, but don't trust a bank with their money
Have at least one relative that "almost cut a number one record"
Invite co-workers and all of their friends to their child's birthday
party, which happens to have a professional DJ, alcohol but only about 3 kids
and 50 adults in attendance
Have children who are great singers and dancers, but falling behind in school
Will drive a Lexus, Merc, BMW or Jaguar AND live in a council flat
with their Mum
Will pull up in the church car park blasting out Beenie Man on their stereo
Will display the labels in designer suits to wear to a class reunion and try to
return it the next day after spilling punch on it, only to tell the sales
person it did not fit
Will have on a new outfit every time you see them, but when you ask them for the
money they owe you they always say, "I'm bruk"
Will boast for 3 months about driving around in the passenger seat of their
friends rented mercs for an hour...
Will kit out their 12 year old car with a CD system, sat nav, playstation,
spinning rims - and still don't have no insurance or MOT
Play £20 worth of lottery numbers a week but won't invest in the stock and
shares (It's toooooo risky!!)
Will spend hundreds of pounds on name-brand clothes for their kids but won't buy
them a computer.
Think its wicked to give their kids water to drink, prefring to buy Sunny
Delight instead
Think its normal to put tomato ketchup on white rice
Will give their child a name that nobody but them can spell
Knows somebody with a video on channel u!!!!
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I was sent this email a couple of weeks ago and took offense at it. It was sent by a good female friends of mine, and we've since debated whether or not its as offensive as I've taken it to be, or whether I've had my head stuck in text books for too long and I've lost the ability to take the ish out of ourselves in a healthy manner...
I appreciate its based on stereotypes, and relies far too heavily on overgeneralisations, but beyond that, I ask of you all:
a) Do you see the humour in any or all of the comments expressed? (either way, please elaborate)
b) Does it matter to you who wrote the piece - i.e. whether it was written by a African or non-Africanperson?
c) Would you find it more or less humourous if it were written by a African asopposed to anon-African person?
d) Would you find it more or lessinsulting if it were written by an African as opposed to anon-African person?
e) If you were to encounter such views expressed by an African, how would you deal with them? Do you get into a long ting, or are you more likely to live and let live?
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I should probably sayI did find one of the comments funny - the diabetes = sugar foot = han one did make me smile and think of my grandparents butthis was about the only one that didn't make me frown, and some of the others really made me question what was going on? confused3
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29-11-04, 10:39 AM
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Only black people....
Are engaged for 5 years or more
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Could be strapped for cash
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Never bother to divorce, they just separate for the rest of their lives
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seperating is cheaper than getting a divorce, and there may be a possibilty of a reconciliation
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Are late to church, work and everything else, EXCEPT when the club is free before 11:00pm
I'm late for everyting
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Refer to diabetes as "sugar" their leg as 'foot' and their arm as 'han'
possibly grandma
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Drive slowly around the town just looking for someone they can "hail"
Only someone wid no life would do that
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Show up at weddings, showers, graduation, birthday parties, etc. with a new
outfit on, with their nails and hair done, but don't bring a present, then eat like dogs and take a plate home wrapped up in foil
My aunty!
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Consider "raving" a monthly expense
Someone i know who is saving to buy a house
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Leave bills (instead of insurance money) behind for surviving relatives
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Have at least one relative with a curly perm
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Will borrow money for a big wedding reception then live in flat with no
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Only someone wid no sense would do that
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Phone up all their friends to ask them if their 'reaching' a funeral
Possibly my mum
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Have mothers who can use swear words and religion ALL IN ONE SENTENCE. For example "Lord give me strength 'cause I am bout to knock the blood @@*+- out of this bad_?%*@?#_ child"
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My mum and grandma
Swear that the Irish man selling carpets out of a van gives them the best deals, but don't trust a bank with their money
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Have at least one relative that "almost cut a number one record"
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Invite co-workers and all of their friends to their child's birthday party, which happens to have a professional DJ, alcohol but only about 3 kids and 50 adults in attendance
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Have children who are great singers and dancers, but falling behind in school
my bro is a wannabe mc, didn't do too bad in school
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Will drive a Lexus, Merc, BMW or Jaguar AND live in a council flat
with their Mum
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Pass
Will pull up in the church car park blasting out Beenie Man on their stereo
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my dad will play reggae music but not too loud
Will display the labels in designer suits to wear to a class reunion and try to
return it the next day after spilling punch on it, only to tell the sales
person it did not fit
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Will have on a new outfit every time you see them, but when you ask them for the money they owe you they always say, "I'm bruk"
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Has been known to happen
Will boast for 3 months about driving around in the passenger seat of their
friends rented mercs for an hour...
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pass
Will kit out their 12 year old car with a CD system, sat nav, playstation, spinning rims - and still don't have no insurance or MOT
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Play £20 worth of lottery numbers a week but won't invest in the stock and
shares (It's toooooo risky!!)
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I don't think my mum knows anything about shares
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Will spend hundreds of pounds on name-brand clothes for their kids but won't buy them a computer.
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Eediat babymothers who got knocked up at such a young age they never completed their education themselves
Think its wicked to give their kids water to drink, prefring to buy Sunny Delight instead
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Think its normal to put tomato ketchup on white rice
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My brother!
Will give their child a name that nobody but them can spell
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my friend's sister's baby (nice name though)
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Knows somebody with a video on channel u!!!!
My cousins performed on the illout show
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I've replied to the statements cos I see it as something in jest, not to be taken seriously, yet there is some truth in it. Half of those statements ain't even bad things, I've put TK on my rice before, no biggie! I think u need to take a chill pill, worser things have been said about us, and if u let every likkle comment get to u it will tun u mad. Lifes too short to be thinking about minor tings like dis, focus on the bigger picture hun fe real. Come follow me now: pick up ur hand, brush off ur shoulders and just "fan dem off". You'll feel better for it truss niceone.gif
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29-11-04, 11:20 AM
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I've replied to the statements cos I see it as something in jest, not to be taken seriously, yet there is some truth in it. Half of those statements ain't even bad things, I've put TK on my rice before, no biggie! I think u need to take a chill pill, worser things have been said about us, and if u let every likkle comment get to u it will tun u mad. Lifes too short to be thinking about minor tings like dis, focus on the bigger picture hun fe real. Come follow me now: pick up ur hand, brush off ur shoulders and just "fan dem off". You'll feel better for it truss niceone.gif
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Thanks for your response. I hear what you're saying and get you to a point, but, I'm still bothered by this... firstly, yeah, I'm kinda over-sensetive to somethings so i do accept that this might be going on here and, as the half a dozen or so people who received this also saw it as no biggie then maybe even more so but...
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... I agree with you that some ofthe satements aren't especially bad things and I think thats partly why I took offense... I think I read it as - a couple of
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these things can be considered part of our culture orhow we do things (sort of) and they shouldn't be taken the ish out of, rideculed or portrayed in a negative light...
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on the other hand some of the other comments are down-right offensive, implying we are stupid, greedy, selfish, poor parents, foolish with finances and only aspire to material wealth... Of course I'm not saying that there aren't some (too many) Black peeps who are about this, but I'm not having it that we are more so like this than any other group of people... and because all the comments were presented in a single email msg, I find it difficult to seperate and distinguish between the 'okish' ones and the down right 'no nos' - I bringgled up (sp?) & took offense at the lot!...
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... as for brushing it off my shoulder... I'm trying to but I not sure its so easily done, and I get tied up sometimes knowing that you can't challenge everything, but also knowing that some of these seemingly harmless things actually get under our skin and into our psychie more than we realise and if we just brush them away and let them ride they actually take hold on some deeper and more worrying level... the type that results in us having devalued self-worth and self-esteem...
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... I really would like to be able to 'brush it off' as you say but for now its left a stain... anyone got any stain devil... smoking-devil
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29-11-04, 12:20 PM
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Not the black people i know... those who did get engaged did get married within two years...
Never bother to divorce, they just separate for the rest of their lives
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They will get divorced if they have the intention to marry someone else. Otherwise better to stay married... as married couples have a few tax breaks open to them that are not available to unmarried couples, why not benefit from it.
Are late to church, work and everything else, EXCEPT when the club is free before 11:00pm
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This is a mith... Let's get this right we are never latefor work, job interviews... things that really matter, black people built thegreat KEMIT and many great civilizations which required great time keeping...
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Yes we are late when linking friends, attending parties, functions, church... so what? no one will die, the world doesn't come to an end for it...
Refer to diabetes as "sugar" their leg as 'foot' and their arm as 'han'
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Ok... never heard anyone refer to their arm as han before...
Drive slowly around the town just looking for someone they can "hail"
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Yep! this is true... Souf London Men... too much time and not enough to do...
Show up at weddings, showers, graduation, birthday parties, etc. with a new outfit on, with their nails and hair done, but don't bring a present, then eat like dogs and take a plate home wrapped up in foil
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True! but that does depend on who you invite... and how close they are to you...if for example i invite my friends to my birthday party most will bring present and others will at least bring a bday card...
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If iwas tocook and i have left over, i'll insist on a few people take some food home with them... why let the food go to waste...
Consider "raving" a monthly expense
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Yep Guilty! i have my monthly entertainment expense...
Leave bills (instead of insurance money) behind for surviving relatives
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I don't know how much of it is true... both my parents have life insurance... and both parents pay the bills on time...
Have at least one relative with a curly perm
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No way... i would have shaved it off while they were a sleep...
Will borrow money for a big wedding reception then live in flat with no
furniture.
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I been to a few weedings and 95% of them have been very small, low key affairs...
Phone up all their friends to ask them if their 'reaching' a funeral
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Don't know... i never been to a funeral..
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Have mothers who can use swear words and religion ALL IN ONE SENTENCE.
For example "Lord give me strength 'cause I am bout to knock the blood @@*+- out of this bad_?%*@?#_ child"
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Not my mum... never heard her swear before.. although my mum speaks Italian and only time she speaksit is when sheis upset... I amconvinced she isswearing at us...
Swear that the Irish man selling carpets out of a van gives them the best deals, but don't trust a bank with their money
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Crap...
Have at least one relative that "almost cut a number one record"
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Nop...
Invite co-workers and all of their friends to their child's birthday party, which happens to have a professional DJ, alcohol but only about 3 kids and 50 adults in attendance
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Have children who are great singers and dancers, but falling behind in school
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Quite the opposite actually, many of my relatives do very well in school but non of us can sing... and some can't dance..
Will drive a Lexus, Merc, BMW or Jaguar AND live in a council flat with their Mum
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Yes,i have meet people who livedin a rented one roomcouncil flat butdrove a merc...
Will pull up in the church car park blasting out Beenie Man on their stereo
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Don't know i don't go to church.
Will display the labels in designer suits to wear to a class reunion and try to return it the next day after spilling punch on it, only to tell the sales person it did not fit
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Don't know...
Will have on a new outfit every time you see them, but when you ask them for the money they owe you they always say, "I'm bruk"
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I only lend money to people i trust, and they do pay back on time...
Will boast for 3 months about driving around in the passenger seat of their friends rented mercs for an hour...
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Don't know...
Will kit out their 12 year old car with a CD system, sat nav, playstation, spinning rims - and still don't have no insurance or MOT
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Not sure about playstation and spinning rims but I have seen a few old bangers with a very expensive music system and sat nav...
Play £20 worth of lottery numbers a week but won't invest in the stock and shares (It's toooooo risky!!)
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I don't play the lottery and most of my friends don't play either.. but we do invest in stocks and shares...
Will spend hundreds of pounds on name-brand clothes for their kids but won't buy them a computer.
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Yep! come across a few...
Think its wicked to give their kids water to drink, prefring to buy Sunny Delight instead
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Don't know!
Think its normal to put tomato ketchup on white rice
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No way not me... imight put a hot sauce on white rice thou..
Will give their child a name that nobody but them can spell
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Unless you come from that specific country you can't spell most African names... for eg. the Yoruba name "Adetoun" simple but most peple can't spell or pronunce it right...
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If i do, i wouldn't know since i don't watch channel U...
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Boy, ifthe aboverepresentsblack people then i must know all the wrong types of black people then... no wonder i only got 79% on my how black are you test...
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Yes we are late when linking friends, attending parties, functions, church... so what? no one will die, the world doesn't come to an end for it...Grrrr lol,,,,,,Grrr....I was introduced to the "Wonders" of "Jamaican Time" many moons ago!.......not my friends greatestasset collectively I've gotta say lol.......actually I've a rendezvous with my friend on Wednesday...think I'll flip the script and roll up half-hour late with a big smile and a "Hi Ya" on my face and tell her......no-ones died etc.... ..wonder what reaction I'll get!
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29-11-04, 01:27 PM
@AfriCariBrit
I do not really take offence to this e'mail
I know a quite a lot of people who do alot of what was stated in the e'mail you recieved...............but they ain't all black people, i know people of other raceswho do just such things!!!
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29-11-04, 01:50 PM
Nah i didn't take offense to this email, i actually laughed at some of the things, especially the one about arriving at 11 to a club.
To be honest, a lot of them are true about some people. Some of them are funny, and some of them are tragic, because unfortunately people do think its more important for their child to have timberlands, than a computer. But i don't take it too seriously, there are some black people who practise the more tragic things, but i feel safe in saying that the majority don't.
If the TRUTH is told the YOUTH can Grow/Try to survive/Before they take CONTROL - NAS
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29-11-04, 02:08 PM
@ Sweetz1 - I agree it aint 'race' specific and I resent that its being passed as such...
@ all - thanks for all the responses... I must be in a stubborn mood coz although I hear what you're all saying, It still gets me vex... even more so now I think I may be nit-picking...
...what about the identity of the person making such comments?? Would you still not take offense or challenge the comments if they were to come from a non-African person?
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