This issue is so hot with my country of origin and for some reason seems that the politicians are playing politics with while there are allegations that the white south africans who have bought almost everything there are lobbying against it though politicians so diaspora wouldnt get a chunk of the business there when they go back

Is this going on in other countries as well or carribean or they have sorted it out?

@Coltrane. That is why wise people walk with two passports. Standard. If you are entitled get both. Simple as. Same thing in the Caribbean where you have foreigners eg whites, Asians and Chinese literally buying passports eg not having anything in the country and applying while a whole heap of children of Caribbean parentage here do not have Caribbean passports which they are entitled to have. And the thing is in many islands people will side with foreigners because they have such a small minded and ignorant view. I mean look at how some view foreign Jamaicans compared to their own blood abroad. So no joking business.

Bottom line. They have legal rights and benefits over our children and will use the fact that they are citizens to keep people from benefiting from their parents sweat or inheritance or the opportuntiies which are theirs, if they go through the process.

Every Caribbean person should have a home island passportunder their matressess, because nothing is more important and foolhardy if ignored.

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Every Caribbean person should have a home island passportunder their matressess, because nothing is more important and foolhardy if ignored.

@ Fred B - Why so? I'm truly ignorant of how this could be of benefit to me or hinder/limitme... moreover, I was even of the impression that the British passport was the 'golden ticket' as it were and if you had one of them then you were sorted and would be granted entry into the entire chocolate factory... is this not so?...

Yeah this guy just came back from Africa he says its no longer white south africans taking over ..practically its whites from europe own major busineses and they dont need much to do so...

African Americans are also there but they cant compe at the pace ofeuropeans there as you know its a dog eat dog situation and seems Americans rely much on lobby from state dept but after that they want to implement their work regime there which always brings them at odd with the locals..THEN come a white man from Europe...he applies the same methods of cecil rhodes and david livingstone..

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Yes I have both, and when I go home on holiday, I use it for entry.

That means a separate, and much shorter queue (for nationals)since the plane is usually full of British holiday makers!

@AfricaBrit. Not so my dear sister. As Niceness has given just one tiny example, there are plenty more. By the way Niceness is damn right. I breeze into my country and out of it and don't have to pay those irritating and irrational airport tax simply for breathing air. And that money is not a joke from a business point of view if you have to travel extensively on business, paying those charges each time.

But much more deeper. For example we run business in our country which involves a whole range of legalties eg tax, concessions you name it. Simply by being a national and flashing our home passport we get the best deals, concessions you name it. When we ship stufff into our countries there are different rates and tariffs. We got massive concessions from my government simply by that fact.You can only stay in my country for 1 year maximum and cannot work we can stay as long as we like and work how and where we like.

I left my country at 4 years old and most of my sibblings are born here. But we all have the same legal rights in our home country not only ethically as our parents come from the same place as our grandparents etc but also legally. Your British passport does not give you the clout that Niceness or mine does in our country or the Caribbean period, especially if doing business.

I say this to anyone doing business in their home countries or countries of orgin. First thing get a home passport. You don't want to be in the position of som fools who own and buy property etc and find themselves not citizens of the country and not understanding the ramifications that ownership of business and property without legal ownership in terms of citizenship is madness.

If there is a war tommorow and black people have to flee this country. Many will have to beg while Nicenesss and I and others simply cruise through the residents entry at immigration.

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@BP nice to hear that. We need to teach many in this town that if their parents come from Africa or wherever to get a passport. Never know when it is needed and cost little to get really. Widen your angles and options period.

Every child of JA parentage in this country should have one locked down. Standard.

I would go as far as to say it is the duty of every concious parent to look after their children's interest in that regard. My father in law make sure all his children have a home passport. Years later when they were big people they understood and thanked the old man for his insight.

His children belong to his country and can choose not to if they want. But he make sure as a good father he look after his kids interest long term.

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@Coltrane got bredrins in those parts who tell me exactly what you have said. Just came from speaking to one.

BLOODFIRE!!

ME AGO GO AH DI EMBASSY TOMORROW!! YOU MEAN FE SEH MI FORGET MI LITTLE BLUE BOOK. OR IS IT BROWN NOW?

LORD GOD THANK YOU GOOD PEOPLE!!!

MUST DASH!!blktrainers

@ Brother Fred B - Thanks for the heds up... this is something I'd never given any thought to before but I will do so more deeplynow... you comment about the war hit home too... niceone.gif

@AfricaBrit. No probs sis. Always happy to give someone the heads up on certain issues which most of our people do not consider, unlike too many other nationalities/people who have these legal moves locked down.

Sis if there is serious trouble in this country against our people, my or my children'srights back home are not in question we are the first on the list to enter ,but others do not have that right. In fact I will just phone my High Commision and tell them to expect me. No joke as well. My wife has the nationality of her country. So either way I and any children we have are covered. I know many people from here who go back home for a holiday and decide to extend it indefinitely and find themselves in shit because they have not got their citizenship and assume because their parents are from there they are covered when it is such an easy procedure, which is our right and nobody questions. The best £30or so pounds you will ever spend.

@Mansa....Quick steps for real my brother. But on a very very serious tip. Most people do not know for example if your grandparents and parents die your claims to Jamaica becomes very very tenuous in legal terms. There are ways around it but it is by no means a cert and gets tricky.

As long as you are no criminal of serious proportions and are Jamaican by legal definition which you are[by law, geneology,heritage and all thedefinitions]as i assume at least one of your parents are alive. Then it is straight forward paper process with no hasssle. Just pay your money and sign no more than two forms. Done.

Get your passport. Lock it off. When you go home, just flash it and walk through. Not only that you can travel around the Caribbean as a Caribbean[Jamaican]nationall and just breeze through in the short cue with us. Moreover, push come to shove you have the option of calling your Commission or the British High Commission if you have any problems. Me I always call my own because know nuff people in there, so does my family so things move much faster than depending on some white person who is a stranger to me and the only connection is based on shared Briish passport and little else.

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Probably the most important thing Ive read this year. Jesus King..I did not even realise all the implications..let alone the bolt hole option..and truthfully the advantanges too..

Thank you brother.

Thanks for the info FB you have enlightened me....

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FredB---- please advise me how would the dual citizenship affect my nationality status. i am interested in it. but also i am concerned as to how would this effect me sponsoring relatives abroad to come over here when i decide to do so