Slander is a terrible thing. The mud sticks and can make a man look ungainly in the sight of his peers. So now I have been dragged into the web of deceit. And now like countless others before us have to cut through the slander and misreprentation.

Plus its cold outside.

Thus it must be counteracted. This is case study if you like of the lying deceitful ways some Europeans enter our confidence and seek to sow theseeds of discord.

The only PM I have received from a perfect stranger came from Cockneybwoy.

The following is the discourse between us.

Good thing the deleted messages dont go away. No doubt some will say I made this up:

The Devil makes work for idle hands/ Im not that redundant yet.






cockneybouy
antifemale
Sunday July 25th, 2004 18:57

stop cursing women i am white but i do not curse my whit women stop it!!

no disrespect.







My reply. Coming up.




_____Original Message_____
From: cockneybouy
Date: 2004-07-25 10:57:31
Subject: antifemale


Firstly where do you see me cursing women per se.

Secondly I curse who ever deserves to get curse in my view.That includes white and black women/men and hermophites if need be. Especially when they are pushing their white/western values on here.

Thirdly

White bwoy. Dont ever tell me what to do as regards what I post in the interest of Africans worldwide.

Now f**k off.

whoops missed one here!!

no disrespect mrsorry but you called me a white boy.. i am a man not a boy.

the moment i say white you disrespect me.. I am proud to be white I do not regret being born white.. infact i love it, so i would not hide it, maybe if you people show some respect to white they will inturn respect you..even now i am still not even disrespectful to you.



More to come:



mansamusa your pm was quite rude: where do you get off telling someone to f off just by starting a civil conversation, were you not taught any manners?confused3

I would never forgive you for this.. that does not mean i will keep malice with you on the forum.


What did I say?






Original Message_____
From: cockneybouy
Date: 2004-07-26 06:14:21
Subject: anti

Well bully for you.

This is the last time I will reply to your nonsense. But I rarely get to tell white people the real dealy. Most times I have to work with you hypocritical f**kers and bite my tongue. Although there are always boundaries. This is one of them. Let me spell it out to you.

1) I dont give a flying hoot whether you dont disrespect white women. Whats that got to do with me. If any of my Black sisters felt offended at my posts then for sure I would know FROM THEM. Black men would pull me up too. So your anal..ysis means f**k all to me.

2)The brings me on to another detestable trait in Eurpeans in particular. The missionary behaviour. We know best school of thought. Whitey I reject your values and your culture. Why? Because I believe mine are superior. So next time you want to try to dictate to Black people what is best for them on the basis of inter-white cultural behaviour then think again. It may be OK with your cocunut minded Black friends that I ASSUME you have. But not with this African. Learn this.

3)Thirdly you disrespected me the day you posted to tell what to do, on the basis that you mr whitey, do not do it. Why did you feel the need to tell me your white. Why not say I dont curse women because of XYZ...?

No it betrays your mindset that you feel that a valid justification for your advice is your are white and dont behave to whites like this. I will not justify anything I have said to any women on here. For this site is frequented by majority Black people. I live by their judgement and our norms. Not whites.

So Mr Livingstone there are no minds to capture here. No souls to save either. My more learned brothers than me on here have not PM me on any of the foolish accusations you have offered. You view carries no weight here mr.whitey.

So be proud being white. If you was any different I would say your mentally deranged.. Is a duck proud to be a Swan.

I dont care if whites respect me. My life does not revolve around whites views about Blacks. Whites are not the centre of my universe. If whites have no respect then they get DISS respect. If however they show some rare respect then they get my respect.

Disrespect breeds disrepect.

Now really piss off will ya..go and hold your moral high ground where it counts for shit..

Wanker.




The Finale:

An excellent case study of sorts. For its shows the missionary behaviour in its raw form. It also shows that as the good old Native Indians told us: WHITE MAN SPEAK WITH FORKED TONGUE. Not all. But a heck of alot. LOL!!

So good people. Did I make the above up. Does Mansamusa have an imaginary "friend" that he talks to and post replies to himself? Dont answer that..

Man I never knew the internet could be so much fun.

If anyone else has any field data to contribute to the on going study of the lying rhetoric of Cockney accented lying mofos then please feel free to contribute.

Your're having a George Raft mate.

@all

as you may know, part of my manifesto is that blacknet should have a "missionaries corner" a place where whites who feel the need to frequent an african centered sitecan safely communicate their personal problems to black people who give a damn, away from clean decent black people.

i promise, that if i become president at the next blacknet general election, missionaries corner will be implemented. this is not an empty promise just to win your votes.

africans have enough internal problems of their own - so many of us raise them as reasons why "we will never improve, we don't have enough love, unity".

today, blacknet witnessed a perfect example of white intervention.

the idiot exposed his evilintentions and plans for us. an african said,on the thread in question, that they were waiting for them to slip up. they did.

ironically, the ice man said the same thing himself.

so folks, dont forget, at the next blacknet general election, a vote for breadfruit is a vote for missionaries corner - as well as lower taxes for africans.

and a free car.

@Breadfruit

You have to laugh I suppose.



By the way where do I mark the X bro? Tired of the cycle busines now.

ower

This is all so silly, I cant even believe it. You are all acting like a bunch of overgrown children.

@ Breadfruit - when are you going to volunteer your time and effort to moderate this new "missionaries corner" that you so want??? All talk and no action.

@ Mansamusa - you have no-one to blame than yourself. Whatever CB motives were or were not, YOU opened the door by going around the village attacking other Africans. So I blame YOU.

Mansamusa, you are the weakest link.

Goodbye.

@Happiness

Well I know you are probably waiting for my Afrocentric self to "slip up".

Let it be known I dont respect your hypocritical views either.

Scheming and mischeivious come to mind.

Have a nice day.

@happiness

why do you feel the need to attack africans who don't share your world view or political sentiments.

don't you think that is not your role as a moderator?

keeping order is.

missionary corner is a metaphor for african self determination.

please sis, desist from fighting pan-africanists @blacknet.

just agree to disagree

@ breadfruit - me attacking Africans?! dont make me laugh!!! why is it ok for you and Mansamusa to go around attacking Africans (Africans Americans, Burning Spear, My thoughts, RFYWcome immediately to mind) and causing an obvious divide in the village??? Why is that ok for you to do that??

Im sorry but you are hiding behind the"wrappa" of the"Pan African" label and somehow I do not think your conduct here is what Pan Africanism is all about.

I couldnt care less if you hold the same world view as I....my world view has never been the popular view on Blacknet from the first day I arrived here. Doesn't stop me from keeping order in the village....and from pointing out when some posters are going around bullying other posters.

I call it as I see it...nothing more...nothing less.

Now wipe that ogbono soup from your mouth....

Happiness/Mansamuba/Breadfruit.......et al.............Actually my response to this nonsense is not what U might expect...

...Mansamuba.......I haven't fully read those PM's......but at least my eyes are clearer now.....Firstly in your haste to chastise me have U ever considered that I,personally may not have sent them(though I've got a VERY good idea who did:P)have U ever known in your experience of my "contributions" here any similarity whatsoever with those messages....I've NEVER EVER sent a PM to You or anyone else I can assure you......Do the contents or vocabulary correspond with ANYTHING I've ever posted on here??.......I've wondered for a while why (apart from the fact I'm White) that U have tried to vilify some of what I've tried to contribute here as I hold no malice to you or anyone else for that matter......now I'm beginning to understand much more clearly............but without being patronising(trust me on this one!)....initially anyway how could you or anyone else think otherwise?........I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SEND A PM TO ANYONE ON HERE......truly......and anyway I would have no desire to do so....I'm nothing if not up front in anything I'm involved in..........I'll probably soon be able to PROOVE that I did not send those messages to you or anyone else.......thats why I was so adamant that you were lying on the other thread......obviously U were not and although I HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with those messages which I shall read more thoroughly later I'm certain I know which one of the 5/6 "friends" of mine here who contribute from time to time did shamelessly........and then used MY name in vain.......so I WILL APOLOGISE for those PM's sent onder my Nom-De-Plume but I can PROMISE U I had no knowledge of them whatsoever...NONE AT ALL.......................U do know the sad irony of this thread entitled "The Lying Rhetoric Of Some Europeans".....it was a BLACK person who sent that message....not that I,unlike U,are casting any aspersions as to a whole group of ppl because of those deceitful PM's sent by just 1 Member of that Group.

@Breadfruit.

You know what bro. This is the last I say on this.There are important topics on here to get involved in.Im not really asking you to answer me either.

Butdo you see the play?

FirstHappinness apportioned Blame (as if I gave a toss and was some victim to Cockneybouy diatribe). 5 months ago mind you.

I only put this here to show my fellow Africans that indeed who they bring into their confidence and seek to extend the hand of friendship are in fact lying/ missionaires/ that give their word that they havent done X when they done do X long time ago.

I know who Im talking to.

But they will fight tooth and blood to defend these tossers. In their bid to discredit a fellow African they dont like. Even turn a blind eye to their disruptive antics.

Do I post here to be liked? If so I would of stopped a long time ago...

Blood from now I just watch and chill for a while...

Got no time for these snake in the grass protaganists.

Peace

mansamusa wrote:

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Like I said, I don't know what CB's motives were, but I do know that WE

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are better than that...we need to be better than that.

Cockneybouy
antifemale
Sunday July 25th, 2004 18:57

stop cursing women i am white but i do not curse my whit women stop it!!

no disrespect........................................ ..........Now seriously did it not EVER occur to you that I did not construct the above pathetic message!....Look at the poor attempt at plain English Grammar!!......No Capital S to start the sentence.....No Capital I for"I am White"........."My WHIT Women!!!!!!!!!!!!!"........whatthe hell is that??....No full stop after "Women"..No Capital S for "Stop"....COME ON!!...You were only too happy to judge the above and couldn't wait to cuss in your reply it never dawned on you that this doesn'tRESEMBLE my Grammar or style of writing IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM!!!!!........U were only too happy to rub your hands with glee and get "stuck in".....but the culprit was not I........