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08-01-05, 10:21 PM
WILL ANYONE BE WATCHING THIS BBC2 10PM Jerry springer the opera. it has caused outrage before being screened tonight due to blaspheme and swearing
Jerry Springer: the Opera, the outrageous award-winning musical based on the programme's more notorious guests. Contains very strong language.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/4154071.stm
BBC braced for Springer criticism
The show's star David Soul has also defended the broadcastThe BBC is bracing itself for further criticism as it prepares to screen Jerry Springer - The Opera on Saturday.
Christian protesters sang hymns and said prayers outside BBC buildings prior to the show's broadcast on BBC Two at 2200 GMT.
And the Conservatives have joined the attack on the screening, with deputy leader Michael Ancram saying the BBC had a duty to exercise caution.
Meanwhile the BBC insisted there were fewer than 300 swear words in the show.
'Broadest definition'
A reported total of 8,000 obscenities was reached by adding every swear word sung by each member of the 27-strong chorus.
However, on Saturday, a BBC spokesperson said the number was less than 300 and was arrived at "even using the broadest definition of an offensive word".
The BBC has received around 45,000 complaints over the controversial stage show - mostly about swearing levels and the show's religious themes.
But director general Mark Thompson has defended the corporation's decision to screen the play, which continues to run to packed audiences in London's West End.
Practising Christian
Mr Thompson, himself a practising Christian, said he believed there was nothing blasphemous in the production and was going out after the watershed with "very, very clear" warnings about strong language.

There is nothing in this which I believe to be blasphemous 
Mark Thompson
BBC director general
Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice, said: "I find it astonishing that Mark Thompson and David Soul claim they are Christians and they can see nothing wrong with Jerry Springer - The Opera.
"What kind of Christians are the sort of people who find mocking God and Jesus Christ acceptable?
"If this show portrayed Mohammed or Vishnu as homosexual, ridiculous and ineffectual, it would never have seen the light of day."
About 150 protesters, some bearing placards calling for senior BBC staff to be sacked, were gathered outside BBC Television Centre on Saturday night before the show was due to be screened.
Imran Joseph, 38, a caterer from Feltham, Middlesex, said the BBC should have pulled the plug on the show in the face of "an intense volume of criticism".

A lot of people in this country feel the same 
Frank Saunders
Protester

Have your say - should the BBC show it?
"There should be freedom of speech but there should never be freedom for desecration," he said.
And charity fundraiser Derek Cartwright, 64, of east London, said the show's "mockery" of Jesus Christ and God "lowers the moral tone of the nation".
"Showing Jerry Springer - The Opera sews evil into people and scandalises Christianity.
"It shows Jesus as a homosexual and that is entirely false."
At a similar TV Centre broadcast a day earlier protester Frank Saunders, a security manager from Brentwood, Essex, said: "It's the last straw. The standards of broadcasting have slipped far too low. "
About 30 people also protested outside BBC Broadcasting House in Cardiff on Saturday night with a similar-sized demonstration taking place outside the corporation's offices in Birmingham.
BBC facilities in Belfast and Plymouth were also targeted by demonstrators.
The National Secular Society has defended the BBC's right to screen it, urging the BBC not to give in to "religious bullies".
Organised attack
Vice-president Terry Sanderson said: "This organised attack is the latest of a series of attempts by religious interests to control what we can see or say in this country."
TV lobby group Mediawatch-UK has written to BBC chairman Michael Grade claiming the show breached the corporation's guidelines on respecting religious sensibilities.
Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Any Questions on Saturday, Conservative deputy leader Michael Ancram added his voice to the protest.
"What they are trying to do is to get people to watch it because they think it is going to shock them. I don't think it is the duty of the BBC to do that," said Mr Ancram.
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08-01-05, 10:28 PM
I would have loved to watch it, but i'll be out on the town soon (my new year resolution to rave less didn't even last a week ).
Anyway my collegues have seen it on stage twice and absolutely loved it.
Do you know ifit's gonna berepeatedon bbc 3?
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08-01-05, 10:46 PM
not sure if it will be repeated due to the huge protests. there is a scene with jesus and satan which has many orthodox souls p'd off
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08-01-05, 10:59 PM
If you are watching, let us know what you think... if it's as good as they say i might go catch it on stage.
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08-01-05, 11:06 PM
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08-01-05, 11:06 PM
I can't be bothered to watch it infact I just turned off the tv altogether just concentrating on surfing and music.
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09-01-05, 01:37 PM
Watched it and maybe it should had been banned. The excessive emphasis on the swearing was too much and was highly unecessary, but I don't think it should had been banned over the 'religous' theme because it was essential and relavent to the plot.I thought it worked well.
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"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have been fatally wounded, but the wound had healed. The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast".
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09-01-05, 01:44 PM
watched it it was funny i got tired in the weehours of the night so did not see the end. but teh bbc gave warning about the content for acts 1 and t prior to them appearing so ... you had teh choise to watch and be offended or take head to the warning. it was interesting what i watched. but it twisetd it in saying well jerry says its only tv but look at what happens to people who have been on his show... so much for the disclaimer
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09-01-05, 09:15 PM
The guy who played jesus has alot of breast 
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09-01-05, 09:30 PM
I wouldnt even have known it was bloody on if there were not so much protesting going on.
It was good,a bit hit and miss in places,but definately and there were some QUALITY opera voices in the cast.
At the end of the day it is SATIRE and it was executed quite well.
Yes,the bloke playing Jesus did have some hefty "MAN BOOBS" but at least he was black,they got that part right!!clp)
These are some of my favourite lines of the night sung in a Opera stylee
"your dick is so small id get more pleasure ****ing myself with my own clitoris"
"shut up and piss on me some more you whore"
"talk to the Stigmata"..........coz the face aint listening etc.
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09-01-05, 09:53 PM
i saw the last half an hour of it and i thought it was OK. i can see WHY there were such protests. It was obvious that they purposly wanted to make a big impact by putting all those words in the context as if it was a REALLY casual way to speak
When a fool it told a proverb, its meaning has to be explained to him.
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10-01-05, 09:14 AM
I saw it Live, and watched it again on Sat Night...
at the time completely shocked, some of it was hysterical... but some things which were a bit near the bone... like the tapdancing Klansmen... but it gave me plenty of food for thought...
Blacknet Book Club coming soon...
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