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He's doing it because he is carrying out her wishes. It would have been very easy for him to walk away and wash his hands of the problem.
I give him a lot of credit.


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He's doing it because he is carrying out her wishes. It would have been very easy for him to walk away and wash his hands of the problem.
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We had to do the same with my mother, and I can't imagine anyone tell me how or what to do in regards to my family. It is emotionally and spiritually the hardest thing for a family to face.
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You know they offered him 1 million dollars to hand over legal control over his wife? Congress....hmmpf, first baseball, now this? I wonder is everything so cool in America that they have time for this?????
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Disgraceful just plaindisgrace what the rights have done to this country after 2000.

Welcome to police state of US of Americana.




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Geez what happened to personal CHOICE?????

And how can the president of America have so much time spare just to get involved in an issue already decided by the law??

When is this religious nonsense thats griping America gone stop?, the woman is as good as dead, let her have some dignity instead of keeping her alive to apease our so called morals!
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Actually when you make the choice at the time of their demise naturally, it becomes a legal issue. I have had to go through that same choice a little while back and that is what the doctor spelled out. He said if they put someone on the machine, it becomes a legal issue and is no longer up to the family. So now even with the woman in a vegetable state, taking her off life support is denying her right to life because she is not dying at the moment.
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Geez what happened to personal CHOICE?????

And how can the president of America have so much time spare just to get involved in an issue already decided by the law??

When is this religious nonsense thats griping America gone stop?, the woman is as good as dead, let her have some dignity instead of keeping her alive to apease our so called morals!
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For my family it was a little tricky

ALL of my mother's children had to agree, for some reason my father had no say so in the matter, though he didn't have an objection. My youngest brother at first say "NO", and the doctors could do nothing. We have to convince him that it was the right thing to do.

My mother even left a will AND instructs for the doctor not to keep her alive. She had a DNR order. "Do not resuscitate", when it was CLEAR that my mother did not want to be kept alive by machines, if one of my mother's children say NO, regardless of her wishes.......it was still no.

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Talk about a hard choice, I still think it should be up to blood relatives like her parents. How do they know she is suffering anyway?


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Geez what happened to personal CHOICE?????

And how can the president of America have so much time spare just to get involved in an issue already decided by the law??

When is this religious nonsense thats griping America gone stop?, the woman is as good as dead, let her have some dignity instead of keeping her alive to apease our so called morals!
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Geez what happened to personal CHOICE?????

And how can the president of America have so much time spare just to get involved in an issue already decided by the law??

When is this religious nonsense thats griping America gone stop?, the woman is as good as dead, let her have some dignity instead of keeping her alive to apease our so called morals!

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For my family it was a little tricky

ALL of my mother's children had to agree, for some reason my father had no say so in the matter, though he didn't have an objection. My youngest brother at first say "NO", and the doctors could do nothing. We have to convince him that it was the right thing to do.

My mother even left a will AND instructs for the doctor not to keep her alive. She had a DNR order. "Do not resuscitate", when it was CLEAR that my mother did not want to be kept alive by machines, if one of my mother's children say NO, regardless of her wishes.......it was still no.

Parris that must have been a tough choice....but i believe in people passing with some dignity.....all i can say is, i hope my children will do thesame for me when its my time to go......i believe there is a time for everything......youalldid the best thathumanly you possiblycould.....may she rest in peace!

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Post imported post - 21-03-05, 10:44 PM

Does anyone remember a recent tv prog. where it showed a man who woke up and spoke from a similarstate after twenty years?!!!!????

Apparently the only thing that was different, compared to others in his position, was that he was taken out a lot and generally was treated as though he was not in a 'coma' at all by his family - insisted by his mother.

Its right this woman should be kept alive - who knows what could happen if she was allowed the same benefit.


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Does anyone remember a recent tv prog. where it showed a man who woke up and spoke from a similarstate after twenty years?!!!!????

Apparently the only thing that was different, compared to others in his position, was that he was taken out a lot and generally was treated as though he was not in a 'coma' at all by his family - insisted by his mother.

Its right this woman should be kept alive - who knows what could happen if she was allowed the same benefit.
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Thats all good for him....but all that you said is not scientificly proof and its not medicaly proven that ALL people in a coma will wake up after 20 years or so and be all happy and productive humans they were meant to be!
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What you have said above is nothing but an emotional and somewhat "humanitarian" response.....it says NOTHING about the right of theperson to choose to go or for the law of the land in question to decide that the patient is suffering too much or there is no point to be keep them alive superficially!
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This case is more about us emotionaly loaded humans, who may i add are perfectly healthy, yet they feel the need to decide or judge someone who is probably in unimaginable pain.........
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I see no logic in that!
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Trane:

As much a cut & dry brutha as I am, even I'M somewhat stumped by this case......


First of all, her husband is shady as hell because his wife isn't even dead yet and he's already got a girlfriend and has2 children by her since his wife's demise.

Not only that, but he's been trying to pull the plug on her for over 10 years with no success thanx to the efforts of her parents.

I don't know how true it is but I've even heard rumors that he used to ask nurses and doctors anxiously why it's taking her so long to die.

Apparenlty he's gonna get a large sum of money as a survivor benefit after his spouse dies and he just can't wait.



But then.....


I don't think I'd want to live in a conditon like she's in.

Not only is sheincapacitated, but CONCIOUS of her helplessness and suffering without the ability to let people know what she's really going through.

I understand her parent's effort to keep thier daughter alive as long as possible but I think they're doing it more for THEIR own best interests than for hers.

To hell with how she feels....they just don't want togo through the pain of losing thier child.



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She's been living like that for nearly 15 years.

I can see them hurrying to make a decision on letting her die in peace if it happened a week or month ago.

But if she's been living like that for 15 years she's probably adapted to how she's living and probably has now began to accept it.

Threatening to let her die will just put her through another nightmare.



One thing for sure...

I think it's cruel the way they keep snatching her feeding tube out and putting it back in.

They should decided what they're definately going to do before they start pulling out her life-line because ain't no telling what type of damage they're causing her each time they pull it out for days at a time.


I also think the Republicans are hypocrites and are just using this as a publicity stunt and political farce to promote their "pro-life" agenda.

How hypocritical can a group of peope be who support war to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent relatively healthy and innocent civilians...yet conviene in the middle of the night and fight tooth and nail just to keep a terminally ill woman alive for a few more years.


Jesus said these hypocrites gag at flies while swallowing mules.





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