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23-03-05, 12:00 AM
Once again I've received that dreaded phone call another friend of mine DEAD. So how many does that make it for the year 2 people quite close to me dead in the space of 3 monthsboth under 30,both pointless murders as no one deserves to die. I'm fed up of it I'm only 18 and can use both hands and maybe include my feet to count young black men in my local vicinity that have died under the strength of a bullet and the weakness of the killer. But why I have to ask myself are all the crimes committed by another fellow black man ?
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23-03-05, 12:16 AM
Cutie.C: First can i pass on my condolence at the the recent loss of a friend, people dying needlessly at such a young age is a scandal...
That said I must take issue with you labelling this a Black on black crime, just because it is convienetly called this in the media, does not make this an accurate way to view these occurances. In my view this is a gun crime, committed by criminals that claimed yet another black life, we should stop segregating this type of crime or ring fencing it so that it appears only idiot black men let off gun..
We only have to look at the paper today to see a clear example of the contradiction i speak of, two white boys shooting a shop keeper in the act of commiting a crime, was this white on white or just simply a robbery via the use of a gun..My point here is that criminal don't specifically target their victims on the basis of colour, they target anyone or anything they percieve as a threat to them..
What can we do attack gun crime, for me top of the list banned the sale of replica guns, ban them tommorrow. Target those criminals who convert these guns for lethal use, give these arseholes life meaning life for simply being involved in the distribution of illegal guns, ie attack the supply of weapons and bullets..
If you're going to employ stop and search via the means of intelligent policing, why oh why aren't the police working with music venues to trap and jail arsehole like the one last night who jumped on stage of the Brixton Academy with a gun.. What is the point of Random search if you don't use it in places like this.. BTW i'm not even a fan of this tactic..but it seems to be that idiots like this target events for their madness, why isn't the police acting on this?
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23-03-05, 12:18 AM
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Once again I've received that dreaded phone call another friend of mine DEAD. So how many does that make it for the year 2 people quite close to me dead in the space of 3 monthsboth under 30,both pointless murders as no one deserves to die. I'm fed up of it I'm only 18 and can use both hands and maybe include my feet to count young black men in my local vicinity that have died under the strength of a bullet and the weakness of the killer. But why I have to ask myself are all the crimes committed by another fellow black man ?
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First off I do not condone any crime but I believe your question to be an easy one. Most crimes are committed not to far from home. Very seldom to people leave their own communitiesto go out and commit crimes. Soifa perpetrator lives inbasically a black community he is more likely to commit black on black crime as you put it. The average robber or killer is not going to leave the townwhere he knows all the twist and turns to go to less say a whiteneighborhood to do his dirt. This is the same for all races if you think about it. Most whites commit white on white crime (post slavery) so there is really no difference. We just have blown up the term black on black crime......in reality crime is crime no matter the color of the person doing it........realize that.
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23-03-05, 12:29 AM
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Once again I've received that dreaded phone call another friend of mine DEAD. So how many does that make it for the year 2 people quite close to me dead in the space of 3 monthsboth under 30,both pointless murders as no one deserves to die. I'm fed up of it I'm only 18 and can use both hands and maybe include my feet to count young black men in my local vicinity that have died under the strength of a bullet and the weakness of the killer. But why I have to ask myself are all the crimes committed by another fellow black man ?
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First off my condolences for your loss......it must be tough to recieve the loss of both your friends in that short space of time.
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Its funy that should start this thread now, because right now i am watching the Macintyre dude who investigates all sorts of crimes that goes on underground.
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Well tonight he is spending time with manchester's most notorious crime family, theNoonans.....i actually know of them, they are like the Sopranos of UK.....and guess what?? They are all white!
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Crime is crime......it does not matter who commits it! This silly term of black on black crime is just another useless way of getting us black people worked up to think that there is something exceptionaly wrong with some of us.......which is complete nonsense ofcourse!
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Its a proven fact by criminal psychologists and profilers that most criminals will commits their crimes within the environmet they feel confortable in........so the majority of the time black crimals' victims will be black.....vise versa with the whites ect.....
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You should not take it to heart that the black men is the enemy because your friends fell victims to one or few black criminals......if you were white, its more likely that these murderes wouldwhite........
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Its a vicious circle really......we all just have to ba carefull who we hang around........its a dangerous world out there...
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But please, do not buy into this labeling of the black men killing black men all the time for no reason......crime is crime......it does not matter who weare........this labeling of black criminals is just another way to create more frictions between us......even where there was none before......
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Once again, i sympathise with your loss.......thats all i can say really....
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Hope that makes sense....
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23-03-05, 05:18 AM
But why I have to ask myself are all the crimes committed by another fellow black man ?
Simple answer really... just because he is black does not mean he wont hesitate to rape you, rob, you shoot you or stab you. You are obviously still under the illusion that we are all 'bruddas and sistas' lol what a joke. white people kill white people, black peopel kill black people, white people kill black people, black kill white. It doesnt matter what skin colour they are, if you wanna kill someone you dont care what their colour. That shit that white are more likely to kill white and black, black is not true.
You sound like you cannot beleive a black man has commited a crime let alone killed another black person.
I am sorry for your loss and i hope you find the strenght to keep your head above the water.
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The media pick up on the black against black war because it IS happening im afraid to say....Of course there is media coverage of white crime and it IS covered in the press. Iactually read more about white crime whether its in the local paper or in the national paper. But we have to accept that there is an increasing 'Gangsta style' crime thing goin on where black kids with guns are cool. Remember those girls blown away in a gangsta style uzi drive by?
Are we no better that the black americans? We are British and we must stand up and fight the increasing poularity of the gansta gun culture... or we will be no better than dem...
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23-03-05, 07:34 AM
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Are we no better that the black americans? We are British and we must stand up and fight the increasing poularity of the gansta gun culture... or we will be no better than dem...
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NO NONOyou are no better than dem as you put it ......here youhave incinuated that black andwhite peeps are equal and fine with hat but then you turn around andsay that black are not equal do to something as idiotic as location. Yes there is crime in American just as it is in Europe or we would not be having this conversation.....but like several people said before crime is crime whether it is committed by blacks or whites, American's or Brits.....hear me now.
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23-03-05, 12:15 PM
I agree with u all but rather than callin this black on black crime ur r right i should have callled the topic rising gun culture in our youth black white and asian but what im tryin to say is on this website we r a black community so I am going to talk about how its affecting our blackpeople
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