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29-04-05, 02:58 PM
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I haven't been to Leicester, but I doubt it's that bad, like a Little India/Pakistan. my borough, Harrow, has roughly the same %age of Asians (29.65%), and has roughly the same population (200,000). Only places I know which look like Little India are Southall, andi think East Ham. Rest just have Asians as a large minority like 20-50%. .............I went thru' Leicester for a Football Match 15 years ago....couldn't believe I was in England.....Everything and everybody and every Business was Asian in the part I went thru' and that was 1990.....so that area logically would just be extended...
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29-04-05, 03:13 PM
Gotbase,
When it comes to African people, they move where they want to move in. Here where I live at, I see less Africans( but then again you just cannot look at a Black person and tell if they are/not African), it seems to be less of them where I live, where White people still predominate Conyers(Georgia), followed by AA's Latnos, Asians and then Native Americans and others.
There are a lot of African people that live in the Metropolitan Atlanta, but if you want to see more of them, you'll see them in places like Downtown Atlanta, College Park,Doraville, Norcross, Duluth, Clarkston, Stone Mountain etc. With the people from East Africa( with the exception of Kenya), I notice that they tend to live aorund mixed or predomniately White areas, but with the the people from sub-saharan Africa, they sometimes live in the White areas, but they are less discriminate, the mostly seems to live in mostly mixed or Black areashere.
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Congrats to you on your first built home.My cousin just moved into her home--also built. She lives in Southwest area in Collier Heights. Excuse me if I'm being personal with this question, butare you getting your home built near you(Not Fort McPherson of course) It's a good thing that you were able to get your home built. There are so many Condo's, apartments and houses being built that i'm suprised that there more space to continue building. I'm suprised that my cousin was able to get that done. She wanted to get home built near her mom. Collier Heights was already a little cluttered in the pastand they are building new homws there it's even more cluttered.
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29-04-05, 03:21 PM
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I don't know. If they don't , people must be violating the rules, I know there was a White man I was talking to. He's 90. He's been living in Cascade since that time and beyond. He was there when it was all-White.Latinos( the Mexicans) are moving there as well.But Cascade is still majority Black. I like the AU Center side of Cascade of it, but not where the Black big-wigs stay, not because it isn't nice, no-no. Some of those people are so snobby, like they are holier then thou!
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29-04-05, 05:23 PM
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currently london as a wholewasapprox 12% black 12% asian, 5% mixed race/chinese/other (29% non-white). and a further 10% were 'white others', so about 60% of londoners were 'white british' - although even this count of white british, a good many of these are ancestrially foreign (such as irish, french,german,italian,greek/turkish cyrpiot, whitezimbabweans/s.africansetc.), in the1991 census 12% of londoners claimed irish background, now it's only about 3%, most have identified differently that's all - so london is less than 50% british going by ancestry. then there are illegal immigrant populations which are as large as 5-10% of the london population. - what's happening in immigration now i think, over this decade, is we're getting more african immigration, south asian immigration is steady, and we're getting a surge in eastern european immigration. i'd predict by 2011 london will be 20% black, 18% asian, 10% mixed race/chinese/other, it'll be very much close to 50% non-white. the african population will explode, and therefore there'll likely be more blacks than asians, especially when taking into account mixed blacks and mixed asians. i dont see caribbeans growing much, probably slightly, despite high rates of mixing with whites, i don't think they'll fall, and gradually over time many of the mixed race caribbeans will mix back with full caribbeans, and therefore returning the count back in caribbeans. also overtime, as the white population declines, amongst the white population, it'll become less british, less irish, and more eastern european (just like NYC, where people of Italian ancestry are the largest white group, and English, Dutch, andGermans are a small proportion of the white group).
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@gotbase Do you mean there will be more blackthen Asian people in Britain or in London.The African population has grownso much. In 1991 census they were about 250,000, now they have overtaken the Caribbean population and have almost caught up with the Pakistani population. I think they number 638,000, or something like that now, and rising fast. In my town they are rising fast aswel, they will catch us Caribbeans up soon, only a matter of time. Do you think the black population will catch the asian population in britain or not??
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29-04-05, 07:19 PM
black Africans now make up one in 20 Londoners and outnumber black caribbeans.(Daily Mail ,dec 3, 2003)
I've also noticed an increase of Africans in other major UK cities eg Manchester,Birmingham and Bristol.
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15:49pm 7th December 2004 Ethnic minority groups accounted for nearly three-quarters of Britain's population growth between 1991 and 2001, a report said today.
Black and Asian groups grew by 1.6 million in the decade, compared with an increase of 600,000 among the white population, the London School of Economics (LSE) study said.
The fastest-growing category, according to an analysis of census data, was Black African, which more than doubled from 212,000 to 485,000 in 10 years.
Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Chinese groups also saw rapid growth.
The total UK population rose 4 per cent in the decade, and 73 per cent of this growth was among ethnic minority groups, the study said.
The LSE also concluded that Britain has a growing North-South divide, with all the larger cities and conurbations except London suffering decline.
The research by Professor Anne Power and Dr Ruth Lupton from the LSE's Centre for the Analysis of Social Exclusion will be launched tomorrow.
'Avoid segregation'
Prof Power said: "The changing composition and settlement patterns of minority ethnic groups that this report highlights should inform the way we seek to understand our society, our cities and neighbourhoods.
"It should encourage more localised work on the detailed patterns of migration of all communities, white and minority, and it should reinforce the arguments for a strong urban policy, in favour of avoiding the risks of segregation and inner-city collapse that have characterised patterns of high minority concentration in America."
She added: "Our analysis underlines a worrying trend of a growing North-South divide in Great Britain.
"One obvious mechanism to limit this uneven development would be to invest more in remediating the damaged urban landscape of former industrial areas, particularly the major cities which are the hub of their regional economies."
The increase in the number of people from different ethnic backgrounds and countries was "one of the most significant changes in Britain during the 1990s", the report said.
Ethnic populations grew in virtually every local council area, including those with very few black and Asian residents at the start of the 1990s.
"Most areas therefore became more mixed," said the report.
"However, in some inner areas of Britain's largest conurbations, minority population growth combined with white population decline.
"As a result, minority ethnic groups made up a greater share of the population of some urban neighbourhoods in 2001 than they had in 1991.
"In some major cities, a higher proportion of people from ethnic minorities were living in areas of high minority ethnic population than they were in 1991."
Census data showed the ethnic minority population rose from 3,104,000 in 1991 to 4,623,000 in 2001, amounting to 8 per cent of the total UK population.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
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02-05-05, 02:30 PM
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I haven't been to Leicester, but I doubt it's that bad, like a Little India/Pakistan. my borough, Harrow, has roughly the same %age of Asians (29.65%), and has roughly the same population (200,000). Only places I know which look like Little India are Southall, andi think East Ham. Rest just have Asians as a large minority
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like 20-50%. .............I went thru' Leicester for a Football Match 15 years ago....couldn't believe I was in England.....Everything and everybody and every Business was Asian in the part I went thru' and that was 1990.....so that area logically would just be extended...
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Hmm, some parts of leicester are likely very asian, but on average across the whole city boundary, it likely works out the same as Harrow borough (minus the Blacks), that is 30% asian on average. Essentially what makes leicester special is that it's got the characteristics ofone of the more ethniclondon boroughs, except it is it's own city. leicester as a whole is 29.92% asian. of the 36 sub-divided areas (from the census), 13 of them are less than 10% indian (very white areas), 8 of them are more than 50% indian (very asian areas), the rest are between that range. Harrow borough in comparison as a whole is 29.65% asian. of the 31 sub divided areas, only 1 is less than 10% indian, none are over 50% indian, although a few are over 50% asian.
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What's interesting about this comparison is that, although both Harrow borough & Leicester city are just as asian. Leicester is much more racially segregated, 1/3rd of the areas in leicester you can walk around and find very few asians (less than 1 in 10), and 1/4th of the areas in leicester you can walk around find mostly asians (more than 5 in 10 asian faces). whereas in Harrow only 1 area will you find less than than 1 in 10 faces asian, and only 3-5 areas will you find mostly asians (more than 5 in 10 asian faces).
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This doesn't sound too good, as it's better to have an even spread rather than an uneven spread. perhaps this is a characteristic of most cities, and most of the minorities live in the inner city. whereas with London, boroughs like Harrow, Ealing, Hounslow, even Brent are more middle-surburbia, and thus have a more even spread of minorities across their area. Leicester sounds like Southall + Dagenham, i.e. very ethnic and very white areas, having such stark contrasts in a city the size of leicester could cause racial tensions. it's true ghettofication (a specific minority living in one area), london has very few of these ghettoes, in west london southall is the only one that comes to my mind, and that averages 75% asian (but no more than 50% indian), the really ethnic areas in brent are just indicative of the borough's overall demographics,theres no really black or really asian area in brent, only areas that are a mix of many non-white ethnics (indians, sri lankans, west indians, africans).
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08-05-05, 11:41 AM
Is it true that the black population of Britain will catch the asian population soondue to african immigration??
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09-05-05, 09:13 AM
@101Airborne
 on the new home. It's nice andbig.That's one of the great benefits of living down South in the US especially fromfor Georgia to Texas. If you have a decentincome you can get a pretty decent nice home.
Lived in CA--Ridicilious. My best friend paid $900 monthly for a studio apt. Just a big room w/ no walls to seperate anything.She had to move back to Texas. Now she has a nice home in Houston with the morgage $925.
Philly--My cousin lived there and told me--crazy rent-$750. Living in the hood, sharing aptand using the public transpo.
Again, enjoy your new home..nothing like owning your own.
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09-05-05, 09:43 AM
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on the new home. It's nice andbig.That's one of the great benefits of living down South in the US especially fromfor Georgia to Texas. If you have a decentincome you can get a pretty decent nice home.
Lived in CA--Ridicilious. My best friend paid $900 monthly for a studio apt. Just a big room w/ no walls to seperate anything.She had to move back to Texas. Now she has a nice home in Houston with the morgage $925.
Philly--My cousin lived there and told me--crazy rent-$750. Living in the hood, sharing aptand using the public transpo.
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U think thats ridiculous....try renting a GARAGE in some parts of West London(in particular!) for $925 per month....Bargain!........"House sold a lil while ago for $40,000 in Kensington,London...Unfurnished...........Oh! Forgot to mention..it was 10 Feet by 6 Feet.... .......What A Farce........Owner bought it as an "investment!".......lol
Again, enjoy your new home..nothing like owning your own. ...........
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U Couldn't be more right..imo..clp)
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09-05-05, 10:01 AM
Where I live in West London there is probably about 50% white, 10% Black African, 10% Black Caribbean, 15% Asian, 15% Other, and mixed.
It's funny though because all my schools and colleges I have been to it seem that the White people were in the minority:?
With the majority being Asian and then Black people.
Bless, CC
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09-05-05, 10:01 AM
GOOD TOPIC well im from eastlondonsides mostly black and asians of course you see odd whites in the hood evrytime i do they usually with a black or asian person its kool doe cause in the endz its not black just roll with black or asianz just roll with asianz its like evryonez got a friend in and outside there ethnic group so itsalrite i no theres gotta be some love in the ethnic cumunatiez just the other day in barking in loxford park some white dude shouting some raceist shit to a fellow black player on the football field a hole heap of black and asian youths run towards his way layed him out nicely u may tink im crazy but i get a buzz when i see them things. but anyway i was *visulasing* and tryed to see my area in 5 10 years its just gonner remind me of them films you c like boyz in the hood menace sociity i no them films is going deep or to far but thoes were the sort of pictures that come up in my head training day where they driveing throw and all them essays where getting nab by po po not a good sign doe to much madness going on dese dayz but its good to see we can hold shoulder to shoulder
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