The BN Village  
Home Register FAQ Members Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to the African and Caribbean Social network.

You are currently are in guest mode which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access other features. By joining this free African Caribbean Social utility you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload images, add videos, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join the African and Caribbean community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Go Back   The BN Village > Welcome to The Black Forum - The Black net Village > The Village Square.
Reload this Page How should Black people engage each other and our enemies.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
imported post
(#1 (permalink))
Old
Masai05 is Offline
Villager Senior
Masai05
 
Posts: 1,586
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunshine, Moonshine and all that, , USA
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 06:32 PM

It seems that no matter where we are, whether it is an exchange over the internet, in a classroom, an auditorium or over the telephone we agree to disagree. This seems like part of life but in regards to "A Black United Front" this disagreement keeps us STAGNANT! Ethnocentricity, Provincialism, Religion and other pointless pride points keep us in place. We live in a world where scholarship, "facts" and research yields money, results and starts plans into motion.

In the White world they debate, site evidence no matter how miniscule to further their cause but in our sphere of influence people argue with emotion, result to name calling and we are stuck.

Do we play the game, the hand we have been dealt and use the whiteman's methods, play his game with him, dominate it and take over the world or do we do as we have been doing, well versed in conjecture and remain stagnant? Any Suggestions?


Say it LOUD! "I\'M BLACK and I\'M PROUD!"
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

imported post
(#2 (permalink))
Old
Richard Darial is Offline
Excluded
Richard Darial
 
Posts: 294
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 07:00 PM

Masai05 wrote:
Quote:
It seems that no matter where we are, whether it is an exchange over the internet, in a classroom, an auditorium or over the telephone we agree to disagree. This seems like part of life but in regards to "A Black United Front" this disagreement keeps us STAGNANT! Ethnocentricity, Provincialism, Religion and other pointless pride points keep us in place. We live in a world where scholarship, "facts" and research yields money, results and starts plans into motion.

In the White world they debate, site evidence no matter how miniscule to further their cause but in our sphere of influence people argue with emotion, result to name calling and we are stuck.

Do we play the game, the hand we have been dealt and use the whiteman's methods, play his game with him, dominate it and take over the world or do we do as we have been doing, well versed in conjecture and remain stagnant? Any Suggestions?
Quote:
This goes out only to those with genuine dark skin.
Quote:
Learn the white man's words. Watch him debate. Learn his tactics, but don't join him. That means don't pretend to be something you're not and don't allow him to coddle you through the flattery of his badges or rewards for your diligently following a trail of prescribed lies he calls education.
Quote:
If you go to university drop out before they award you a degree. You only get one if you complete the course they set out for you and that involves a cost beyond your tuition fees.
Quote:
Don't trust any white person.
Quote:
Don't trust any "black person" who supports white people or their views, or promotes their science.
Quote:
Don't take sides in any controversy. Simply watch from the sideline.
Quote:
The white man succeeds by fooling people. It's the only real power he has left.
Quote:
Be wise and avoid his traps.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#3 (permalink))
Old
Dell Gines is Offline
Village Newbie
Dell Gines
 
Posts: 15
Join Date: May 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 07:20 PM

I disagree with the generalization that we only argue from emotion...

Most of the individuals on the cutting edge of black social change (Randall Robinson, Claude Anderson, etc) use in depth analysis, and solid argumentation in proof of their theories.

Trust me, white boys over the net argue just as emotionally as black folk.



But to answer you question in general, we engage those who would and do do us harm by any means necessary. This is why although some people criticize the civil rights movement and its heavy emphasis on non-violence, the question becomes, what other way was there?

So methodologies depend upon context, if a white swings a fist, I swing a fist, if a white emotes, I emote, if a white debates with stats, I debate with stats...what ever way they want to engage, we must be prepared.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#4 (permalink))
Old
NativeTongue is Offline
Villager Senior
NativeTongue
 
Posts: 1,093
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London, , United Kingdom
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 07:31 PM

Quote:
richard darial, are you a troll ?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#5 (permalink))
Old
Richard Darial is Offline
Excluded
Richard Darial
 
Posts: 294
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 07:48 PM

Black_power wrote:
Quote:
Why only those with genuine dark skin???
Quote:
Because there are white people in these forums. I'm not talking to them unless they're prepared to reveal themselves.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

imported post
(#6 (permalink))
Old
impactplayer is Offline
Banned
impactplayer is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,150
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland (DC), USA
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 07:58 PM

Richard Darial wrote:
Quote:
Masai05 wrote:
Quote:
It seems that no matter where we are, whether it is an exchange over the internet, in a classroom, an auditorium or over the telephone we agree to disagree. This seems like part of life but in regards to "A Black United Front" this disagreement keeps us STAGNANT! Ethnocentricity, Provincialism, Religion and other pointless pride points keep us in place. We live in a world where scholarship, "facts" and research yields money, results and starts plans into motion.

In the White world they debate, site evidence no matter how miniscule to further their cause but in our sphere of influence people argue with emotion, result to name calling and we are stuck.

Do we play the game, the hand we have been dealt and use the whiteman's methods, play his game with him, dominate it and take over the world or do we do as we have been doing, well versed in conjecture and remain stagnant? Any Suggestions?
Quote:
This goes out only to those with genuine dark skin.
<--- Comments like this is what truly divides us.....

Quote:
Learn the white man's words. Watch him debate. Learn his tactics, but don't join him. That means don't pretend to be something you're not and don't allow him to coddle you through the flattery of his badges or rewards for your diligently following a trail of prescribed lies he calls education.
Quote:
If you go to university drop out before they award you a degree. You only get one if you complete the course they set out for you and that involves a cost beyond your tuition fees.
Quote:
Don't trust any white person.
<----- This says alot about the you

Quote:
Don't trust any "black person" who supports white people or their views, or promotes their science.
<----This is also a problem, white people dont have a monopoly on points of view....And science is science it dosent matter what race it comes from....Anti-Science is anti-intellectuallism.

Quote:
Don't take sides in any controversy. Simply watch from the sideline.
Quote:
The white man succeeds by fooling people. It's the only real power he has left.
Quote:
Be wise and avoid his traps.
I suggest youre-think your plans Bro...
Quote:
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#7 (permalink))
Old
Masai05 is Offline
Villager Senior
Masai05
 
Posts: 1,586
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunshine, Moonshine and all that, , USA
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 08:26 PM

Richard wrote:

This goes out only to those with genuine dark skin.

Learn the white man's words. Watch him debate. Learn his tactics, but don't join him. That means don't pretend to be something you're not and don't allow him to coddle you through the flattery of his badges or rewards for your diligently following a trail of prescribed lies he calls education.

Good point!
If you go to university drop out before they award you a degree. You only get one if you complete the course they set out for you and that involves a cost beyond your tuition fees.

What the F!@##? You sound as bad as the Rza when he said "hey shorty you don't need to finish school, all you need is the Wu-tang Double CD, get all the knowledge you need right here"

If you plan to build a nation in the current context you need standardized education and credentials. Power, networking and anything else you need to sustain, feed and cultivate a movement don't come from osmosis. I take it you are joking in you reply because this is pointless. If you play the game right you can get a Free University education.

So something like a math or Engineering degree, an MD or a degree in cultural mental health is detrimental to Black health, physical and mental?????


Don't trust any white person.
I've practiced this to a fault, never the less I'm diligent!


Don't trust any "black person" who supports white people or their views, or promotes their science.

When you lack contact with whites sometimes it is better to communicate with the closest thing to them. We can't live in a box and conquer the world on speculation. Sometimes or most times you gotta take the ride in order to gain that knowledge. That is unless through osmosis some Black science collective free of outside influence appears and leads us from the darkness into the light!

Don't take sides in any controversy. Simply watch from the sideline.

The white man succeeds by fooling people. It's the only real power he has left.

Be wise and avoid his traps.


Say it LOUD! "I\'M BLACK and I\'M PROUD!"
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#8 (permalink))
Old
Richard Darial is Offline
Excluded
Richard Darial
 
Posts: 294
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 08:32 PM

impactplayer wrote:
Quote:
Richard Darial wrote:
Quote:
Masai05 wrote:
Quote:
It seems that no matter where we are, whether it is an exchange over the internet, in a classroom, an auditorium or over the telephone we agree to disagree. This seems like part of life but in regards to "A Black United Front" this disagreement keeps us STAGNANT! Ethnocentricity, Provincialism, Religion and other pointless pride points keep us in place. We live in a world where scholarship, "facts" and research yields money, results and starts plans into motion.

In the White world they debate, site evidence no matter how miniscule to further their cause but in our sphere of influence people argue with emotion, result to name calling and we are stuck.

Do we play the game, the hand we have been dealt and use the whiteman's methods, play his game with him, dominate it and take over the world or do we do as we have been doing, well versed in conjecture and remain stagnant? Any Suggestions?
Quote:
This goes out only to those with genuine dark skin.
<--- Comments like this is what truly divides us.....
Quote:
Quote:
That's the idea.

Quote:
Learn the white man's words. Watch him debate. Learn his tactics, but don't join him. That means don't pretend to be something you're not and don't allow him to coddle you through the flattery of his badges or rewards for your diligently following a trail of prescribed lies he calls education.
Quote:
If you go to university drop out before they award you a degree. You only get one if you complete the course they set out for you and that involves a cost beyond your tuition fees.
Quote:
Don't trust any white person.
<----- This says alot about the you
Quote:
Quote:
It says I don't trust white people.

Quote:
Don't trust any "black person" who supports white people or their views, or promotes their science.
<----This is also a problem, white people dont have a monopoly on points of view....And science is science it dosent matter what race it comes from....Anti-Science is anti-intellectuallism.
Quote:
Quote:
I said don't trust THEIR science.

Quote:
Don't take sides in any controversy. Simply watch from the sideline.
Quote:
The white man succeeds by fooling people. It's the only real power he has left.
Quote:
Be wise and avoid his traps.
I suggest youre-think your plans Bro...
Quote:
Don't trust anyone who opposes RichardD.
Quote:

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#9 (permalink))
Old
Sblizzy is Offline
Villager Senior
Sblizzy
 
Posts: 1,438
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Jersey City, New Jersey, USA
Send a message via MSN to Sblizzy
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 09:20 PM

Masai05 wrote:
Quote:
It seems that no matter where we are, whether it is an exchange over the internet, in a classroom, an auditorium or over the telephone we agree to disagree. This seems like part of life but in regards to "A Black United Front" this disagreement keeps us STAGNANT! Ethnocentricity, Provincialism, Religion and other pointless pride points keep us in place. We live in a world where scholarship, "facts" and research yields money, results and starts plans into motion.

In the White world they debate, site evidence no matter how miniscule to further their cause but in our sphere of influence people argue with emotion, result to name calling and we are stuck.


Thank you Masai...This is needed!!!!

Do we play the game, the hand we have been dealt and use the whiteman's methods, play his game with him, dominate it and take over the world or do we do as we have been doing, well versed in conjecture and remain stagnant? Any Suggestions?


Where there is'nt ORDER, there's CHAOS!!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#10 (permalink))
Old
missinglink is Offline
Villager
missinglink
 
Posts: 116
Join Date: May 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 06-05-05, 10:03 PM

Masai05 wrote:
Quote:
It seems that no matter where we are, whether it is an exchange over the internet, in a classroom, an auditorium or over the telephone we agree to disagree. This seems like part of life but in regards to "A Black United Front" this disagreement keeps us STAGNANT! Ethnocentricity, Provincialism, Religion and other pointless pride points keep us in place. We live in a world where scholarship, "facts" and research yields money, results and starts plans into motion.

In the White world they debate, site evidence no matter how miniscule to further their cause but in our sphere of influence people argue with emotion, result to name calling and we are stuck.

Do we play the game, the hand we have been dealt and use the whiteman's methods, play his game with him, dominate it and take over the world or do we do as we have been doing, well versed in conjecture and remain stagnant? Any Suggestions?
Quote:
Who will ultimately run the world?
Quote:
Long-term scenarios
Quote:
First scenario:
Quote:
This world is getting smaller and smaller.Different groups will fight each other. But there will always be some survivors on 'both' sides. Alliances will be formed. Eventually borders will disappear, people will mix more and more, a single government will emerge. The ones whohave the most common senseand are the most alturistic and intelligentwill find each other and ways to survive.
Quote:
Second scenario:
Quote:
There will be horrible nuclear wars on Earth. Only one group survives.
Quote:
Third scenario:
Quote:
There will be horrible nuclear wars on Earth.Different groups have survivors. This survivors decide that enough is enough.
Quote: