And the organisation in charge of education is?

Well at best family can only educate a person to function well in a crap society. In truth right now it's a very greedy society.

Mob consciousness will always rule, and ittakes a very strong mind to break away from it and an even stronger one not to get involved in it whatsoever.

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Talk to many of the youth on road and Im sure most of them are aware of most of the issues... Like I said to someone on this forum once, the groundswell of dissafection and discontent is large and growing. People talk about and know about what they are doing. Most people know full well that street robbery and robbing other black people is plain stupid... they know this. It doesn't stop it though.


I have spoken to dealers who have acknowleged that what they are doing is wrong and killing their own. Some are greedy and don't see how they could make as much money being legit, some are plain badmind and don't care as long as they get theirs and some don't see a way out ofthe game. They are all aware of what they are doing however...

Ignorance is not the problem. Organisation is.

Most organizations use some kind of coercion combined with psychological manipulation.

They hand you all sorts of crap about LOYALTY.

This stuff in the military about tearing you down in boot camp and building you up. Ain't that BRAINWASHING?

EGO manipulation.

How do you create an organization of RATIONAL individuals who can cooperate to accomplish objectives they all understand and agree with?

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But it takes a strong will to be good and do good in a bad world to be frank.

Organisation doesn't develop strong wills, experience does. The fact that they're aware of it is a good sign. What isn't a good sign, is that by doing good doesn't really seem to achieve much in a world full of greed, so isn't much of an atrractive prospect..

Education is the key when it comes to giving a person their moral core, however limiting a childs freedom by doing that doesn't really produce good results in my experience.

@Blackmatta. Going to your list and back to the Socratic ideal. What happens if the wise orgainse society by your reasoning?



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@BM there is also the view found in Taoism and other faith systems or epitsimologies that in any randomly chosen number of people there will be those who feed that which is base. They find pleasure in it and comfort. Now whether you can educate that out of somone or challenge the powers of human beings to be able to rationalise almost anything, especially to self is another challenge.

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The wise will have to play power games against those currently doing the manipulation. But of course THE WISE already know that.

@BlackMatta
My rationale:
http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackf...m32/12356.html

umbrarchist

@BM Agreeing and exttending your point and for me it is about attemptiing to educate the higher self which first requires understanding what it is..



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Only one can be thy teacher.Any other fascimile attempt is an exercise in futilty.In other words,you can never become if you're in the mist of 'groupthink'.Either be in control or be off the radar unto thyself......

The historians can worry about that.smoking-devil

We are all stuck participating in the power games. My philosophy is: The more everybody knows, the better they can play.

I'm sick of being a pawn. I want to at least be a knight. Black of course.

umbrarchist

Education must be organized itself to be effective.

Like knowledge and power, organization by it's very nature, is positive...even if it's used for negative endavors.


In a truely organized society.....criminals, aggressive people, ignoramuses, heartless people, and immoral people, and other undesirables would be put in thier propler place where they can't harm the general population (or what's left of it).

MAN WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?:?:?:?:?

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