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The sad part is this isn't an AA exclusive, check the numbers for all American groups, not just that 13%

True all groups are slipping into darkness, but we're spiraling like a high velocity bullet into immorality and wickedness. Especially the youth.
Too many of our people are growing up without fathers, without discipline, and shameless.



Yeah but they should be working to lead the next revolution, Black folks have a messiah complex, people always looking for a leader to step forward and lead the charge rather than being a leader and fixing the ills. They should use that anger to fix their situations or bring their brilliance to the US and HELP rather than being CRABS!

I agree, but I do think we need proper leadership to keep us on the same page and have order in the community. Can't have too many chiefs and not enough Indians.




The funny thing about those countries is their Black poplations are so small (Canada: What 600k, France??, England: 3 Million) There isn't an indigenous Black community so most people travelled to these places for better opportunities whil in the USA people been here since the first Spaniards settled the South USA. What is much more educated, emotionally stable and reserved?

They are just more educated, emotionally stable, and reserved....confused3

Most of them have degrees and a better QUALITY pound for pound than most black people here in America because the educational standards in these nations beat what we're getting in the ghettos of America.

The are much more emotionally stable and reserves and can't be found shouting and cussing at eachother in public on the bus saying wild and crazy things nobody in their right mind would say among strangers.

In other words, they just have more sense than most of us.....




True but given the fact that you being in AZ, me being in GA, TX, DC, NY and MA keeps meeting all these educated people whose govts are trying to stop a brain drain says that the Western Govts did an ever bigger number across the globe.

I'm not sure about what you're saying here.

I meet quite a few blacks from Ethiopia and Senegal in Arizona.






Tab

I am also African American whose married to an African.However, I totally disagree with you. Don't let people try to make you feel inferior just because you were born in the states. I notice that some Blacks from various backgrounds stay stuck on the negativity of Black Americans and don't want to see the positives. There are many immoral AFricans ,Carribeans here in the states. I have dealt with them personally. Some of their Women just like American Women who are manipulative and can get some of their men to do what they want . In addition , they don't care who they hurt or if he has a campanion. I know this for a fact because my campanion is very compassionate and he will help anybody with a drop of a hat and I had to warn him how these women operate because I watched their actions and he wanted to believe they were honest. They use their culture against them because they know some of their men will help them to get whatever they need if he is still attached to his culture.

The African and Carribean men who also critize Black American men for their immorality and all the while they are trying to get away with the same mess. These people no more together than Black Americans. I married my husband not because he is a more put together Black from another country ,but because he has good qualities.

Black no matter where you come from is all equal to me .We all have some negativity to deal with and learning to do about ourselves.


By the way international people don't send their worst to the West ,yet most of the time their best country men are living in the West.

What you say may infact be true becauseI've heard before that only themost educated and wealthy end up in the West anyway;but stillI can only go by my personal experiences.

I've never been to any African country so I can't say what's happening there.....but I've lived in America all my life and I KNOW how these negroes behave!

I can't stress enough that most of the Africans and West Indians I met were simply much more educated and well behaved than AfroAmericans for whatever reason. AlthoughI do know quite a few African men who cheat on their wives, other than that they are more honest, hard working, and educated.

When I go to Canada I find the same thing, and when I went to Europe I saw the same thing.

AfroAmericans really don't know how jacked up we've become, especially the youth.

It's plain as day to everyone but us.

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I think "Africans being more educated" is all relative, obviously they are going to be more well off than the average U.S. black since only the brightest are allowed in the U.S. If you went to Africa most of the "educated" or "rich" black people will be Afro-American simply because more well to do Afro-Americans travel the world just like Africans. If you want a fair look at "whose more jacked up" you need to take a look at the two particualr populations as a whole (worldwide) and then come to a conclusion..

You have a point.

But we should also look at who generally has the most OPPORTUNITIES and institutions at thier disposal.

Even poor Africans who come here and don't get government benefitslike other immigrantsstill usually end up doing better than most AfroAmericans because of their support system and stable social life.

Their children usually do better 2 and they were born here just like us, I've went to school with many African children and their was a marked difference between us and them.

Omar: I respect what you have written as your thoughts ,but I totaly disagree. I never been to Africa Either ,yet No Black Immigrant , Black American or any color is going to make me feel ashame of being African American. You sound like you and Continental Africans are the only ones were brought up with dignity and Respect ,which isBigoted and ludicrous.Many Immigrants and Whites want Black Americans to feel Inferior to them. I understand there areproblems in our Community,yet not all Black Communities Poor nor Middle have Serious Problems in their Community dealing with disrespectful people. It is funny how NonBlacks can be disrespectful to each other and they never get labled here in America by Black Americans nor Black Immigrants.



So , Iam taking the high road because where many people whom I grew up around in my childhood and we were taught to be respectful.The problem we have is not single motherhood because Black Women in America have always had to work outside their homes and spent more time with White Folk Children than their own or had relatives help them with their children .Many of those realtives who helped were Black Women and not Black Men.

Also, there is such

an Economic and Social Divide within the Black Community here in America. We don't want to deal with Well to do Blacks who have distance themselves from our people neither do WealthyBlacks want to return to the Poor communites to make change. They are ones and other educated Blacks who can make serious change.Even thoughsome educated Blacks don't make much money , they still have the power to change.Working together in America will help Black Immigrants as well as Black Americans if we continue a Bigoted role towards each other we will not ignite change ,on the other hand it will be chaos.

By the way since you put Immigrant Blacks above Black Americans, I have a questions for you? Why Young African Women (Late 20's and early thirties)who I met are not necessarily more educated ,other hand marrying African Men who are old enough to be their Fathers or Grandfathers? Why sooo many here in America who were raised in Africa are engaging in Premarital Relations with multiple People ? It is not just the Men either ,it is also AfricanWomen. These Women Iam talking are close to my age and they are out there just like Black American Women andMen,and they are marrying men for Money and Stability and No Love in it. These people I met are from and raised in the Motherland. Oooh I forgot !!What about AFrican American Children who have AFrican Fathers? ,Some of them are are no where to be seen . I have seen that tooooo. I don't know where you live ,on the other note I have had a different experience.

I'm not talking about exceptions...
Every group has it's rotten apples and you can find good and bad among all people. But we have to look at the majority of both groups.

I don't find high incarceration rates among black men in places like Canada. Nor do I findhigh incarceration rates among African and West Indian men in America. Only the AfroAmerican fool is being hauled off to jail and in crowds allowing himself to be put into slavery again. The same with drug use, out of wedlock births, and other vices and social problems.

Too many of us are just f*cked up, and you can't deny it.

Many of us are good decent hardworking people, but too many rotten apples are spoiling the bunch.


Go to any major city of your choice in America and you'll find droves of black men standing around cussing, drinking, and begging for money acting a fool. You'll see schools of black girls pushingbabies around with no fathers to be found.

Our famillies are falling apart.

We're fillingup the prisons and jails to the point that they're busting at the seams.

All on television and in movies clowning and acting a fool.
Onlyourpeople are silly enough toagree to play jokers, pimps, hustlers, and criminals with pride. I don't know any other black people from around the world who'd do that.



I seem to run into a lot of proud and knoledgable AfroAmericans all over the internet who can challenge me and prove me wrong, but when I step out my front door and drive down the street or go to the mall they are few and far in between.

Where do yall hide out at?


I'm glad Bill Cosby or somebody is speaking out on this, because we're digging our own graves.

I used to defend black Americans on this site from all the hits and assaults we were taking from others, but after traveling this country from Boston to San Diego....no more.

Some things I will defend and speak out against, but in general I have to acknowledge how jacked up we are.