Is Technology To Be Used In Order to Wipe Out Blacks?

umbrarchist · (#1 (**permalink**))

What happened to the post that started this thread.

I didn't start it.

What is a valid religion?

I think a miniature tank with a machine gun would make a better weapon than the Asimov robot. Although impressive those videos are staged. Ever see a video of someone pushing an Asimov robot and seeing if it can maintain its balance? I haven't.

The only defense against your scenario is UNDERSTANDING TECHNOLOGY. Running away would merely delay the inevitable.

It would also tend to prevent paranoia.

umbrarchist

dexxtreme · (#2 (**permalink**))

Milton Killer wrote:

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a valid religion is one that encourages a person to adhere to the will of the Creator.

the asimo robot thing didn't look staged to me. it was on live tv and it did what it was asked to do. it could have been staged, but i doubt that.

technology is only useful if you have it. it's simply the ability to utilize aspects of the physical world to a degree that others cannot. this is why i believe it is being hidden and what we are shown is what they want us to see.

so your little tank gun thing is probably supposed to make the enemies of the west say : "well gee, that would be so easy to take out" when in fact they have some far more robust and lethal machines at the ready.

Well, right now everything that you see with Asimo is "staged". When I say staged, I mean that the specific commands that the robot will be expected to do are pre-programmed in (i.e., the robot will wave to the croud, walk up some stairs, bow, etc.). It is also limited to being able to do whatever taks the programmers have "taught" it. (i.e., it may be able to perform a choreographed dance, but it can't figure out how to get into a car on its own.) The problem with using Asimov as a device to kill off people is that the human form is not a very well designed structure. The biggest problem is the fact that we have to constantly work to maintain our balance. After learning this as a toddler it becomes second nature to us, however computer software is just now getting to the point where it can mimic it somewhat. Have you noticed how Asimo never moves faster than a couple miles an hour? It is because it doesn't have the ability to do so without falling over, and may never have the ability to run or jog for another 15-30 years. (It also takes several seconds just to turn around.) Realistically it takes a device that has a shape like a crab or an insect (something with 4-8 legs) to be able to cross any terrain at a halfway decent speed. (Even tanks can get stuck on rocky hills.) This is the kind of stuff that researchers in robotics labs at places like MIT are studying.

Another problem with Asimo is the fact that it requires so many bulky servos and motors. This is why it took so long (nearly 20 years) to get it down to a human-like form. Before now the technology that would allow absolute full control of Asimo's legs and arms didn't exist. And the stand-alone battery is another recent development. It used to require a tether to work because it was not possible to store the controlling computer and the necessary battery packs to be stored in an area the size of a backpack. Now it exists, but the available time before the battery runs out is still going to be a critical issue for years to come. It would probably require completely new servo technologies to be designed, as well as 2-3 generations of battery development before it could be let loose on a battlefield.

You can read up on the various specs and history of it at Wikipedia.

DSP · (#3 (**permalink**))

dexxtreme has a pretty valid point, the reality is much more complicated than the theory. Most demos always put forth the best face in order to sell the idea. Most people who work in technology know this first hand

umbrarchist · (#4 (**permalink**))

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a valid religion is one that encourages a person to adhere to the will of the Creator.

If 10 different religions tell you 10 different things and each one claims to speak the WILL OF THE CREATOR how do you figure out which one is a VALID RELIGION? Or does this mean YOU KNOW the will of the creator?

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the asimo robot thing didn't look staged to me. it was on live tv and it did what it was asked to do.

What do you know about electronic technology? The asimov robot could have contained a radio transmitter. The words could have been transmitted to a bigger, more powerful computer for analysis. It could transmit the analyzed instructions back to the asimov to perform and there would be nothing in the video to indicate this. Who decided what the instructions were? They could have all been preprogrammed.

Like I said If someone pushed the asimov could it maintain its balance? A five year old could. Bipedal motion is extremely complex, as long as the robot has a predictable environment it can work. Put it on unlevel ground and see what happens. I bet it couldn't walk thru a park with hills and piles of leaves.

A tank the size of a lawn tractor would have a stable platform and just roll over angeled ground that a bipedal robot would have to lean and change the angle of its feet to compensate for. Have you ever done any programming? Can you imagine trying to program a robot to handle a rifle? Shoot from the hip, hide behind a rock.

The robot is 5'3" and weighs 289 pounds, without armor. How much would armor increase the weight and how much stronger would the servos have to be and how much heavier would the stronger servos be? A military humanoid robot is a LONG way off. A miniature tank would be a walk in the park by comparison. You talk about them hiding advanced technology, I wonder why we don't hear about a robot tank. LOL

umbrarchist

dexxtreme · (#5 (**permalink**))

umbrarchist wrote:

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A tank the size of a lawn tractor would have a stable platform and just roll over angeled ground that a bipedal robot would have to lean and change the angle of its feet to compensate for. Have you ever done any programming? Can you imagine trying to program a robot to handle a rifle? Shoot from the hip, hide behind a rock.

I completely forgot about the level of AI that would be required to allow Asimo to function on its own. Right now AI is only to the point where it can handle only a handful of information. We can do some basic voice recognition (and more advanced regocnition if *all* of the voice patterns have been "pre-learned"), we can do basic optical character recognition (assuming that the text is fairly readable), we can do some facial recognition (assuming that the visual scanners have direct access to a huge database server), and we can do limited moving on it's own (i.e., space probes on Mars making a few decisions on their own). To release Asimo on a battle field, it would have to be able to do the following:

1) Figure out where it is
2) Figure out where it needs to go
3) Detect the basic difference between a rock and a bush (only one can be used as protection from bullets), dirt and mud (one can possibly cause problems with movement)
4) Determine which path it needs to take to get where it needs to go
5) Figure out how to cross the terrain (and find an easier path if necessary)
6) Be able to protect its own existence with various tacticts such as camouflage, hiding behind terrain, etc.
7) Recognize the primary target (and any secondary/tertiary targets) when it sees it
8) Be able to initiate an attack on the target
9) Be able to avoid hitting other people and robots on your side
10) Be able to return from battle
11) Do all of the above with the ability to make decisions on the fly based on the constantly changing conditions found on a battlefield

Considering how we can't even figure out how to build a computer that is sophisticated enough to safely navigate busy city streets and highways (while working around things like pedestrians, traffic jams, accidents, and road construction), I'd say that there isn't much to worry about just yet.

dexxtreme · (#6 (**permalink**))

Milton Killer wrote:

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FYI TWIMC they showed footage of the so-called latest asimo actually running.

Let me know when it can run up and down a grassy or rocky hill...

umbrarchist · (#7 (**permalink**))

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if the religion calls for the subjugation or  destruction of the bla[ck race, or the perpetuation of the status quo,  then you know this is one to avoid.

But this sounds like a GREAT religion for White people. How do you KNOW God isn't White? How do you KNOW I'm not White? ROFL You know what liars White people are. LOL

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Mokele Mbembe · (#8 (**permalink**))

I think FEAR of technology is a bigger threat to black people.

We are luddites and technophobes and we frigging REVEL in it... We like to go on about what our ancient ancestors did and what they built but talk about technology NOW and people get scared and instead of thinking what they can do to learn and use it for ourselves we worry what can be done to us. Weakness of thought.

Go be a bloody engineer or designer, go study some science instead of regarding it as the devils work... while you busy rabbiting about how science is the devil, the whites and asians are racing on. Go learn and use it for US

We need to make technology fashionable and science cool rather than stupidness. People too busy babbling about aliens and giants and mystical eyes...

umbrarchist · (#9 (**permalink**))

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the bible clearly points to the gentile as being  the property of satan. the creator at one time expressly condoned the  destruction of gentiles, therefore I think it is safe to suppose he  isn't one of them.

Here is the Webster's, via internet, definition of GENTILE:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...mp;x=0&y=0

From your statement I conclude you are saying that Palefaces are Gentiles. Would you be so kind as to point out the Biblical verses that support this view.

Here is the entire King James Bible for your convenience:

http://www.weblicity.com/freedom/bible/bindex.html

Service with a SMILE.

umbrarchist

Jay Jay · (#10 (**permalink**))

Is Technology To Be Used In Order to Wipe Out Blacks? No....chemicals yes.

umbrarchist wrote:

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A tank the size of a lawn tractor would have a stable platform and just roll over angeled ground that a bipedal robot would have to lean and change the angle of its feet to compensate for. Have you ever done any programming? Can you imagine trying to program a robot to handle a rifle? Shoot from the hip, hide behind a rock.

You're spot on, see below.....a good way to save on pensions. Witness your future police force.

dexxtreme · (#11 (**permalink**))

DrunkMonkey wrote:

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I think FEAR of technology is a bigger threat to black people.

We are luddites and technophobes and we frigging REVEL in it... We like to go on about what our ancient ancestors did and what they built but talk about technology NOW and people get scared and instead of thinking what they can do to learn and use it for ourselves we worry what can be done to us. Weakness of thought.

Go be a bloody engineer or designer, go study some science instead of regarding it as the devils work... while you busy rabbiting about how science is the devil, the whites and asians are racing on. Go learn and use it for US

We need to make technology fashionable and science cool rather than stupidness. People too busy babbling about aliens and giants and mystical eyes...

How can I make technology fashionable if I'm not cool? blktype I'm very knowlegeable when it comes to computers, and really excel with working with the Internet. Unfortunately, I am unable to relate on a level that many people understand.

The problem is that we are failing to take part in the most basic aspect of technology, the Internet. All you need is a computer and Internet connection. Many people have that, however a lot of them waste time going to places (like blackplanet, bet, blackvoices, etc.) that don't enrich your view of technology. They even brag about making a page on bp that has 50 different animatied gifs, 50 Cent's "I'm a P.I.M.P." playing in the background, scrolling text, 20 different pictures of you posing, and 15 different typos (most intentional). Whoop-de-do. Let me know when you use your site to either learn something or to help someone else learn something.

Also, for some reason I think that religion is also playing a part in keeping people from embracing technology on a large scale. confused3