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07-08-05, 01:41 PM
Remember those comments by white folks. You know the "smile I can't see you in the dark" nonsense.
Well Maclean's new advert, advertizing their toothpaste naturally, has a black woman dimming her light switch when she isn't smiling and then brighting the room up with itwhen she starts smiling. This repeats aboutthree or four times and then she says Macleans.
Now someone tell me if I'm being over senstive here...because the last timeI punched someone was over that comment. "SmileI can't see you" In fact they lost 4 teeth over it ironically enough. Personally I don't like it, because I've been hearing all of my life, by white folks, normally the same white folks who have said other racist things in the past.
It's mocking dark skin no matter how indirect, or innocent seeming it claims to be.
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07-08-05, 01:44 PM
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07-08-05, 01:46 PM
Yea i saw that advert yesterday an thought it was foolishness. Are they trying to say that the only way black people can be seen in the dark is by using Mcleans....or furthermore, by brushing their teeth? Never in my life before have I seen a black person used in a toothpaste advert...funny how they decided to use one to repsresent seeing the light in the 'darkness'. I'm sure that advert's gunna get loads of complaints
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07-08-05, 01:48 PM
not seen the advert yet?
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07-08-05, 01:53 PM
I know what you saying about that remember when I was at school. I asked this guy what the time was just an innocent question and he says to me oh I couldnt see cos the glare from your teeth is soo bright. Needless to say he got dealt with! I was really quiet etc but my friend who was white went nuts on him and told her brother's mate this reallybuff black guy who was a few years above us to sort him out. Just the typical occurence of the sly twisted people I had to put up with going to a majority white school.
Back to the topic! I fel the same when I saw the advert and thought maybe I was being too sensitive but I dont think soo. It made me feel uncomfortable and you are right it is done in a sly way cos there is light in the advert and not completely dark subtle but still racist overtones. Very sly and subtle buts that racismfor you today not like back in the day when they would put gollywogs on marmalade jars. But I feel you and Black people cannot say anything in this day and age because we will get accused of being too sensitive or over-reacting.
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07-08-05, 01:58 PM
I havent seen tha advert but that sounds racist..... ppl should complain....
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07-08-05, 02:06 PM
Maybe it's allthe negative experiences that this ad brings back to my mind, but it's really pissed me off somewhat.
But I can see it now. Some black kid in the playground, getting called Macleans, or Colgate. Or asked do you use Colgate? day after day. This black kid starts getting pissed off, and thenpunches the lights out of some white kid and then getting expelled because this stupid ad. And the white teachers lack of empathy for this black kids emotions
It happened to me. The only reasonI didn't get expelled was the fact that this kid I sparked out was mixed raced and was a known troublemaker, but hewas encouraged by some white kids in his class to say it.
It's not really the ad itself, but what it makes people think, and do. It not really encouraging them to purchase Macleans. If it is it's also encouraging them on the same level to take the piss out of black folks as well.
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Remember those comments by white folks. You know the "smile I can't see you in the dark" nonsense.
Well Maclean's new advert, advertizing their toothpaste naturally, has a black woman dimming her light switch when she isn't smiling and then brighting the room up with itwhen she starts smiling. This repeats aboutthree or four times and then she says Macleans.
Now someone tell me if I'm being over senstive here...because the last timeI punched someone was over that comment. "SmileI can't see you" In fact they lost 4 teeth over it ironically enough. Personally I don't like it, because I've been hearing all of my life, by white folks, normally the same white folks who have said other racist things in the past.
It's mocking dark skin no matter how indirect, or innocent seeming it claims to be.
Jesus Christ man! know wonder people think we are paronoid!! I work with four black guys and two white guys, we take the piss outa the white guys somat rotton, trouble with you is you gonna get high blood pressure thinking like that man, chill out!
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07-08-05, 02:43 PM
I don't think it's a matter of who feels sensitive or not.
The point is if you feel offended, then you have every right to complain regardless of what anyone else thinks or feel.
I too have not seen the advert, but it does sound offensive.
Just the other day I glanced to see one of those antique type programmes, a presenter,displaying and describing a 'gollywog' so casually, it might as well had been an antique car!
Thatget me angry.
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Just the other day I glanced to see one of those antique type programmes, a presenter,displaying and describing a 'gollywog' so casually, it might as well had been an antique car!
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Athaba, i saw that one as well.......what shocked me most is the casual manner in which the owner was describing it as *her favourite* doll.
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07-08-05, 02:54 PM
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Jesus Christ man! know wonder people think we are paronoid!! I work with four black guys and two white guys, we take the piss outa the white guys somat rotton, trouble with you is you gonna get high blood pressure thinking like that man, chill out!
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Tell that to the kid in school having the piss taken out of them..
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Didn't you hear about the gang of 100 whiteschool kids, attacking two Asian lads the otherday
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Nothing to do with current events right?
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People are influenced by the things they see, this is why we create averts in the first place, to influence people. Now ifI can see elements in things that can have a negative effect on people then I will speak up on it.
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You maybe like to joke around with white people over your or theircolour, personallyI don't. You may like to demean yourself to fit in with whites, again not something I'm prepared to do. I don't waste my time taking the piss out of white guys either, it swings both ways for me. It's not funny, and some don't find it funny either. In factcoconuts like you arenormallythe reason they usejustify their idiotic behaviour..
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07-08-05, 02:55 PM
I can see why a black person would do that advert and many will find it funny. Growing up ONLY black people made that comment to me.
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