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Contrary to the popular image of blacks as racially restrictive, Yancey discovers that black respondents are the most open to all other races. Yet despite being the most receptive to other groups, blacks in general are rejected by all nonblack groups—whites, Latino/as and Asian Americans. While some assume that whites will be closed off to anyone not white, Yancey’s research show that white respondents are more accepting of Latino/as and Asian Americans than they are of blacks. In turn, Latino/a and Asian American respondents are fairly receptive to one another as well as to whites. Overall, Yancey’s findings reveal that whites, Latino/as and Asian Americans do not tend to reject one another as possible neighbors or as their kids’ spouses, but all three groups show a general resistance to blacks in these social roles.

Hmmm, isn't this what many blacks have been saying for as long as we have been in contact with whites?......This is why i believe majority of IR relationshipsare based on the black person settling for the lowest of the low that the whites or Asians don't want for themselves......then we have imbeciles who kid themselves that they are just *living* their lives....its love blah blahh....if it was threatening to their survival as it was during slavery and colonialism, i don't think we would be living in this Utopia of so called multiculturalism.....we are serving some kind of purpose for THEM rather than gaining anything out of it.......and we all know that us serving them has been our downfall since we came in contact with those pinkys....

What a shame....




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One interesting observation I've made that this article omitts is not only do other minority groups have little social contact with AfroAmericans; they have little contact with EACHOTHER.

Whites are the only people who marry, date, and engage in social relationships across the board with every race, they are in fact the only bridge holding the country together at this point.

Koreans have nothing to do with Japanese, and neither have nothing to do with Mexicans, and Mexicans have nothing to do with Cubans or Arabs.

We're all divided.

That's just the way they want it.


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Post imported post - 10-08-05, 06:48 PM

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During the last census estimation a few months back Latinos surpased Black and the report placed them as whites. It is already happening.


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Well, the balkanization of America would be a lousy thing. Latino however, I am afraid, is not a race. It is anybody from central or south America and many of them are white or have light skin. Some italians are darker than some latinos. It all depends.

I too am nervous and skeptical about the “multicultural paradise� the liberals are pushing. It seems to me that immigration in the United States is out of control with millions of desperate poor people streaming across the borders. It is not that I am not sympathetic but we need to make sure we can provide for our own citizens first.

African Americans, especially in California where I live, now have to contend with even more racism from newcomers, especially Asians and Mexicans and we have to compete for housing which has become almost unaffordable to the working man. It was not this way 20 years ago. Many of our people are just dropping out in despair.

In some ways blacks, at least in California, used to have something of a rapprochement with whites. But I look upon our future in California and on this continent with increasing nervousness.

Our population is not expected to grow in the next 50 years. It may even decrease. The latin population is expected by some to eventually become 1/3 of the nation.
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I too am nervous and skeptical about the “multicultural paradise� the liberals are pushing. It seems to me that immigration in the United States is out of control with millions of desperate poor people steaming across the borders. It is not that I am not sympathetic but we need to make sure we can provide for our own citizens first.

I'm in total agreement.

We have too many of our own people in bad shape to be giving out our resources to others in need.

I live in state where the health-care, education,and other government sources are nearly drained because of all the illegal and legal immigrants pouring in.

AfroAmericans should be leading the effort to close the borders and keep these racist Mexicans out of the country.

Unfortunatly you got a few silly negroes fighting hard for them to stay.



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Yes, only those in the southwest fully understand the scope of the problem.

I sure would hate to see California and the southwest turn into a Tijuana or a Mexico City. I have been to those cities and let me tell you the poverty and violence is unbelievable. For all of our many problems in the US , we have nothing like it.

Los Angeles has a homeless problem -- approximately 82,000 people are homeless on any given night… but in tijuana half the population (or so it seems) live in cardboard boxes in the hills. They have a totally different definition of homelessness and poverty.

We must control our borders. I am not saying end immigration, but control it. No developed nation that I know of has such a reckless immigration policy.

We need to provide for our citizens first and then allow for a certain amount of controlled immigration.

I totally agree our that our blackpolitical leaders need to be at the forefront of this. The sad thing is that conservatives like the cheap labor and the liberals think they are being "humanitarian" by allowing the situation to continue unabated. Naturally it is the guy on street and the working man who gets the shaft -- especially blacks. We don't need to add to the ranks of the poor, we need to eliminate poverty.
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Well, you are just stating what some people don’t want to admit.

Amexican, argentinian, el salvadorianfamily generally has more in common culturally and raciallywith an Irish family than aNigerian family.

Some have tried to define the whole world as “people of color� against north American and European peoples but this seems to me to bepropagated by peoplewithpolitical ambitions (or perhaps false hopes) rather than a solid view of reality.












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Ofcourse they're flooding this country brining in those same jacked up values and cultural traditions that f*cked up Mexico and the other parts of Latin America.
They won't be satisfied until the cities of America become just as slummy as those in Mexico.


What gets me is all these negroes fighting and scrapping for the right of Mexicans to come into America and take thier place.

Mexicans have never showed us any love or respect and keep what few Black people they have in Mexico in secluded oppression.

They are just as racist as whites, and much braver.

We don't need more enemies in this country to deal with.


Most of them are Indigenous Mexicans who are being screwed by the white Spanish government, but rather than standing up and fighting back they'd rathe flee across the border and be slaves to another white man.

I wish Black people had some sort of organization I could be apart of to keep these clowns out the country, I don't trust these mostly white right-wing groups.





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The people who are coming to your land are poor. They want a better life. What is wrong with that? surely you would do the same thing. If you want to help you should be fighting world poverty....which is created by the greed of the west through the systems they have set up. If Mexico was as economically rich as the US, they would not be there.

Also, I could be wrong buti thought that huge partsof what is now the US used to be Mexicountil the Europeans stole it.


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Yes,the immigration reform movement needs to go mainstream. It needs to become an American movement and our leaders need to “legitimize it�.

All American citizens have a stake in making this country work and we should all come together on this issue.

Most Mexicans are a combination of Spanish and Indian ( there was a lot of rape and intermarriage after the fall of the Aztec empire). And you are right, it is not good to be black in mexico.

To some degree we have “educated� whites in America. Just look at the numbers of cultural figures that have gone mainstream. A black woman has had the number one television show in daytime television for years and is loved by many races. Progress is slow perhaps, but there has been progress.

Out of control immigration is bad for us... almost everyone on the street knows it.


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The state of Mexico itself was created when the Spanish conquistadors led by Hernando Cortez conquered the Aztec empire. The Mexican people are descendants of the Aztecs and the Spanish.

California was a colonial province of the Spanish empire during the years 1769 to 1821.

For a quarter century after the achievement of Mexican independence in 1821, California was a remote northern province of the nation of Mexico and California was divided into 12 feudal estates ruled by Spanish aristocrats.

On April 25 1845 Mexican troops at Matamoros crossed the river and ambushed an American patrol which provided a reason/pretext for the American Mexican War – this had to do with disputes over the independent state of Texas. Polk (the american president)secured a declaration of war on May 13�.

The war formally ended on February 2, 1848, with the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. In the treaty, the United States agreed to pay claims to Mexico. For its part, Mexico agreed to transfer to the United States more than 525,000 square miles of land. From this area would come the future states of California, Nevada, and Utah, most of Arizona and New Mexico.
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The people who are coming to your land are poor.

I don't care how poor they're are they have no business coming into my house for food and shelter....let them do for self like WE do in America.

Do you invite all of the homeless and hungry in your city over to YOUR house for food and shelter?




They want a better life. What is wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with wanting a better life, as long as you're not trying to get it at MY expense by taking my job and eating up my resources.

They're basically using us to make money and send back home.

No one likes to be used.



If you want to help you should be fighting world poverty....which is created by the greed of the west through the systems they have set up. If Mexico was as economically rich as the US, they would not be there.

Well first of all I don't want to help them.....they aren't my people nor my responsibility.

Let them help themselves in their own land.


The Mexican government IS rich, it's the citizens....especially the indigenous...who are suffering disproportionately while the leaders are stealing the money and maintaining a caste system.

It's not our fault, they should revolt and force thier leaders to make a change.



Also, I could be wrong but i thought that huge parts of what is now the US used to be Mexico until the Europeans stole it.

Actually both U.S. and Mexico originally belonged to the Native Americans but was stolen by the English, French, and Spanish and turned into colonies. After these colonies won independance the whites leaders of both U.S. and Mexico have been fighting back and forth over land and borders ever since.

So America has just as much right to the land as Mexico

But regardless of who the land belongs to....Mexicans are pouring all over this country and not just former Mexican territorysnatching up jobs and draining the country of it's resources and posing a threat to AfroAmerican political and economic power.




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