Yes it's definately a woman thing. Any man I see mentioning his sign is usually trying to pick up a woman by talking fart and attempting to empathise or is borderline... LOL
Seriously BM. I agree with you. It's a woman thing.

Completely ridicolous IMO since the stars only appear in certain constellations to us for a limited time and from our viewpoint. In a 3D universe with moving stars the shapes and things people recognise from here don't actually exist.

offtopic.gif It's also incompatible with the bible (the book says so) but most Christians I know are quick to babble about this European gypsy sorcery anyway...

Well, I'm a woman and I believe that astrology does have validity. Especially Sun sign astrology. Most people who dismiss astrology don't even know what it puports to do. The stuff u see in the newspaper is not real astrology, it's entertainment. Astrology deals with tendencies and patterns, it does not say that things WILL or MUST turn out a certain way, at least not reputable astrology. At it's core, astrology is the belief that heavenly bodies have an effect on earthly matters....as above,so below. It's not that farfetched, when we consider that the moon's cycle coincides with women's monthly cycles, thus the term menses or menstrual. The moon has long been observed to have an effect on peoples behavior, thus the words: lunacy, lunatic, etc.I would suggest studying it, reading some books, before dismissing it out of hand.

BTW, all the Christians who claim that astrology goes against the Bible and/or is invalid need to look up the word Magi. The three Wisemen were astrologers. They followed a sign from the sky/heavens because itwas a harbinger of something about to take place onEarth; the birth of a savior. Most ancient astrologers, btw, were men.

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Am an atheist myselfbut I always enjoyed this passage from revalations...

[suP]13 [/suP]I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and end.

[suP]15 [/suP]Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practises falsehood.



Im sure you can make it out... God is all there should be. No stars and influences, only God.

Incidently and way off topic but this is where I'd also come down hard on Catholics as hypocrites too, since they won't admit that theirs is a polytheistic religion and has nothing to do with alpha and omega God.



Back on topic. You can claim anything has validity, tarot cards, numerology, seeing crystals, ouiji boards, ghostsand space aliens kidknapping poor hillbillies in their pickup trucks. Doesn't make it any more credible because you say it's old and men made it up. Men also made up vampires and werewolves and I find them just as laughable.

Talking about star signs from a pre Gallilean perspective is like being a hampster in a cage talking about what China looks like. The Universe is 3 dimensional, you see the sky on earth in 2 dimensions. What you see and what is are two different things. I can't explain without showing you in 3D but I hope you sorta get my point.

BTW,@Timeline, What's your sign? I've been wanting to ask u that for a minute.

Please don't shoot the messenger, but Suncorp Metway, Ltd., a multi-
faceted Australian Financial Service, ranked car accident claimants
by Sun sign in a study of 160,000 accident claims over the previous
three-year period. This is what they found.

Restless Geminis Behind the Wheel The number one worst drivers were
Geminis, "typically described as restless, easily bored and
frustrated by things moving slowly," explained Warren Duke, Suncorp's
national manager of personal insurance. "They had more car accidents
than any other sign."

No astrologer would argue with that description of the sign of the
Twins and probably this isn't very surprising news. But what about
the other signs? According to a news release dated February 10, 2002,
Duke said the study was carried out as part of Suncorp's annual
review of claims. "We always look for trends in claims to see if
there are ways to reduce our pricing, but there is no intention to
introduce astrology as a rating factor for motor insurance," he said.

Second and third place holders for this dubious honor are Taurus and
Pisces. "Taureans were thought to be obstinate and inflexible, "said
Duke," while Pisceans could be risk-takers and daredevils." Your
personal astrologer would offer other explanations. First Taurus.
Yes, Taureans can be obstinate and inflexible, but they are also the
most introverted and self absorbed of all the signs. Their natural
path in life is to think about their own body—its immediate
comfort
and needs—and to deal with only the most tangible and immediate
of
realities. Their thinking as drivers may run like this. My stomach is
full, the temperature in the car is pretty good, the noise level is
good, I'm riding right at 60, I don't have to use the bathroom for at
least another hour and there's plenty of gas in the tank.

At a very fundamental level, the world outside the chassis of their
car may not exist at all. Since freeway driving requires spatial
perception and processing of much abstract information (speed, flow
and distance), this is counter to their natural way of processing the
world around them.

Pisces the Daredevil? Pisces, in the number three position, is the
other sign that lives in a world of its own. Duke describes them as
potential risk takers and daredevils. However, there are other signs
we would nominate much more readily for a description like this.
Pisceans are the gentle dreamers of the zodiac. They may spend many
hours a day in fantasy worlds, escaping the painful realities of life
on the physical plane and, more often than not, the pain of being in
a physical body. They often experience the whole manifest world as an
illusion and their presence in it as temporary and of little
importance.

This Piscean detachment from the physical can lead to unconscious
feelings of invulnerability or invincibility, also to unconscious
feelings of victimization and sacrifice. If you are momentarily
deluded into thinking you don't have physical limits, and that your
life is but a fleeting moment in the eternal life of the soul, you
can respond to situations of physical danger in illogical ways. Or,
at the very least, be slow on the uptake.

Please don't take these descriptions as critical. The qualities of
Taurus and Pisces are invaluable in their proper spheres of
influence. Astrology is not a critical tool. It is a tool of
enlightenment. Something you read here and become conscious about may
save your life.

Duke continues, "Capricorns, who came last on the list, are typically
described as patient and careful." No argument with that from the
professional astrologer. It's no surprise Caps are the safest behind
the wheel. They're the safest at everything! Their patience and sense
of responsibility are legendary. Imagine the thrill I felt in the
passenger seat when I divorced my Gemini husband and began dating a
Capricorn.

The great middle ground of this survey is held by Sun signs in this
order: 4. Virgo 5. Cancer 6. Aquarius 7. Aries 8. Leo 9. Libra 10.
Sagittarius 11. Scorpio [and Capricorn in last position as the best
drivers]Is this what you would have expected?

There is something else fascinating about this list. The folks at
SunCorp would have no way of knowing it, but Capricorn to the side,
the signs in the last two positions and first two positions are the
exact opposite. This tells us a great deal about polarities, doesn't
it? Scorpio is opposite Taurus and Sagittarius is opposite Gemini.

Sagittarians may stay safe in their cars the same way they do in
life, by having superbly developed higher minds. Another name for
this mind is intuition. The highly developed sense of flow and good
timing characteristic of Sagittarians is what makes them the lucky
sign. Furthermore, their minds are right at home dealing with traffic
patterns, flow and spatial relations.

Scorpios, on the other hand, may stay safe because they are
intimately involved with the inner lives of others in the same way
their opposite sign Taurus is defended against this information.
Scorpios are sensitive to energy— whether it is a foot away or
thousands of miles away—and can feel someone "coming up from
behind"
at many different levels. Scorpios know if you've had a fight with
your wife the night before or if you're thinking about embezzling or
having an affair with your best friend's husband. That's why we
always feel like they can see right through us. They can.

Scorpios would be the drivers who would instinctively "wake up" in
time to let a cocaine addict pass them at 95 or give a wide berth to
a passive aggressive soccer mom hassling two kids in the back seat
and a phone conversation with her husband all at the same time.

Where does your sign fall in this survey? Whatever your Sun sign,
let's all learn from this survey and be safe on the road.